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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 16, 2012 17:55:17 GMT -5
He gets attacked by whoever was going to attack Cena to help Punk retain if they hadn't been forced to rewrite around Cena's injury.
Though really, at this stage they'd be better off striking while the iron is hot and having Ryback win. Punk needs his extended title reign less than Ryback needs his undefeated streak right now, Punk can get the title back in the TLC match in a couple months so that Ryback doesn't have to get pinned/submit, and Rock winning the WWE title from him will be just as special whether or not he's got a 300+ day reign going in.
And if Ryback really is a limited, sucky meathead who'll be exposed once the spotlight's on him and he has to do more than squash guys, then it's even more essential that he wins here, because the window of making money off of him is going to be a lot smaller, and we're in it right now.
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Post by Mike Wooster on Oct 16, 2012 17:57:53 GMT -5
Outside interference. I don't think it will be Lesnar, though. Would WWE have him show up unannounced on a PPV? You'd think they would want people to know he's there to increase the number of buys.
Barrett would be a good choice, with his mercenary gimmick and his past with Ryback.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Oct 16, 2012 17:58:26 GMT -5
You have two choices:
Ryback wins clean.
The match ends in a no contest because of a huge cell bump
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Post by bigbadbull on Oct 16, 2012 18:12:24 GMT -5
Having a no finish or a DQ in HELL IN A CELL is a terrible idea. Why? Explain to me.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Oct 16, 2012 18:34:43 GMT -5
The way it should be done is Ryback puts up the effort of a lifetime but Punk beats him clean... barely. Maybe show Ryback's inexperience when he uses a big move and unlike the jobbers/midcarders he's faced Punk keeps coming at him. Everyone comes out looking strong. However, it's WWE so the heel can never look strong meaning everyone and their dog is gonna interfere on Punk's behalf, Cena will try and help Ryback out but be overwhelmed and Punk retains just by crawling over an already prone Ryback.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 16, 2012 18:44:21 GMT -5
The best place for Ryback to take his first loss is in a championship match with Punk at Hell in the Cell. It can be a competitive match and still help Ryback be seen as a championship material. If Ryback needs to not lose every match to stay over, then they should have him lose now and either see if he can still swim or let him sink and cut their losses. I kind of feel the same way about Punk -- if he has to hold onto the belt for a year, or forever, to stay over ... well, it's not going to happen. I would book Ryback to absolutely squash him over about 15 minutes, complete destruction of the like hardly ever seen. Then pin Punk FTW. Seriously, Ryback would become a major star with that kind of booking.
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Post by joebob27 on Oct 16, 2012 18:51:44 GMT -5
The best place for Ryback to take his first loss is in a championship match with Punk at Hell in the Cell. It can be a competitive match and still help Ryback be seen as a championship material. If Ryback needs to not lose every match to stay over, then they should have him lose now and either see if he can still swim or let him sink and cut their losses. I kind of feel the same way about Punk -- if he has to hold onto the belt for a year, or forever, to stay over ... well, it's not going to happen. I would book Ryback to absolutely squash him over about 15 minutes, complete destruction of the like hardly ever seen. Then pin Punk FTW. Seriously, Ryback would become a major star with that kind of booking. Not really. Then again everyone they've jobbed Punk out to didn't exactly need the wins. I think all they can do here is make the best out of a bad situation.
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Post by Razor Gives It A 4/10 on Oct 16, 2012 18:58:07 GMT -5
Heyman wheels out the catering table and leaves it on stage. Ryback busts through the cell wall and runs towards the table. However it is attached to a moving car and the dollar bill on a fishing pole thing happens. The table ends up falling over in front of a giant walk in fridge. While Ryback is feeding, Punk and Heyman follow behind, slowly open the door and lures Ryback in there, locking inside, with a whole chicken or something. Inside Ryback meets Paul Bearer where he may or may not eat him. Heyman uses his special referee powers from 2006 to declare Punk the winner via forfeit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 18:58:08 GMT -5
Ryback doesn't need validation. If they put the belt on Ryback at HIAC, it would certainly put a downer on Punk's reign but I'd pass it off as striking while the iron is hot. If anything I think it'd help Punk's reign. The thing's gone far too long anyway, but at least then his long run would be going to making someone new look good as opposed to just dropping it to Rock or Cena. This is a really good point. But again. Rock gets a title shot at the Rumble. No way they have him face Ryback, for many reasons. Having Punk lose the title to Ryback who loses it back to Punk, and then Punk beats him again in the rematch to keep the belt to get to the Rumble...it's far too convoluted. Punk retains via Lesnar interference and keeps the belt til the Rumble and loses it to the Rock. Either that or Punk loses it to Cena at SS or TLC and Cena faces Rock.
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Post by nWoElite on Oct 16, 2012 18:58:08 GMT -5
It's John Cena! But, whose side is he on? What do you mean who's side is on?! We're outta here. You go right to hell Cena. Goodnight ladies and gents. Straight to hell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 19:18:58 GMT -5
God no. No Lesnar. That's hotshotting Ryback WAY beyond what he's capable of right now. He beats Lesnar clean, Brock looks like a speedbump next time he shows up. Lesnar beats him clean, there's zero payoff. Just feed him regular superstars for the rest of the year.
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Post by Hammer Smashed Ball on Oct 16, 2012 19:31:43 GMT -5
This 'whose side is he on' thing is like this board's version of Joan River's joke about plastic surgery isn't it? Swear I see it at least once or twice a day. Welcome to FAN. Where jokes never lose their relevance, no matter how often they‘re used.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2012 19:32:11 GMT -5
The best place for Ryback to take his first loss is in a championship match with Punk at Hell in the Cell. It can be a competitive match and still help Ryback be seen as a championship material. If Ryback needs to not lose every match to stay over, then they should have him lose now and either see if he can still swim or let him sink and cut their losses. I kind of feel the same way about Punk -- if he has to hold onto the belt for a year, or forever, to stay over ... well, it's not going to happen. I would book Ryback to absolutely squash him over about 15 minutes, complete destruction of the like hardly ever seen. Then pin Punk FTW. Seriously, Ryback would become a major star with that kind of booking. Eh, Punk doesn't really need the belt at this point. The story angle is that he's the best in the world and demands respect because he's the WWE Champ. As far as Ryback goes - just demolishing Punk for the title won't make anyone a major star. It takes a LOT more than one squash match to do that or they'd have been making stars for years now. Punk's been able to get over w/o the belt so that's not really a concern, but at this point the whole story has been Cena/Punk. Cena lost the belt to Punk and has been trying to get it back. The entire build up has been about Cena and Punk's storied history and they just threw in Ryback at the last minute when Cena was injured. The best option is to have Ryback lose a super-competitive match with Punk to give Ryback some depth as a character (we get to see what he's like after he loses) and allows WWE to finally put the Cena/Punk rivalry to bed on the next PPV.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Oct 16, 2012 19:37:25 GMT -5
Someone on the law mentioned this. Have Brock Lesnar interfere. Maybe some more guys that Paul Heyman could manage. Essentially, I want a scene where Ryback gets beaten badly, has everything thrown on top of him, gets pinned, and the pay per view goes off with the air with Ryback slowly climbing out of the rubble and walking backstage so he could get some more.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Oct 16, 2012 19:55:16 GMT -5
Ryback won't win the belt. They have a bonafide Superstar on their hands... why would they shoot their wads early and hand him his first ever WWE title in his first ever WWE title match in his first ever WWE main event match? Won't happen. What a waste of future PPV revenue. They know they don't NEED to hotshot Ryback to the title. So they won't.
As long as it's a hard fought match, Punk cheats like Hell and Ryback comes within an inch of winning multiple times, everyone wins.
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Oct 16, 2012 20:05:36 GMT -5
Ryback has Punk beat, then Scott Hall runs out and zaps him with a cattle prod.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Oct 16, 2012 20:43:43 GMT -5
There's no good to come from this. Punk can win, but that's the end of Ryback's streak. You can say he lost a competitive match, but he lost to the WWE champ, his first real competitive challenger that wasn't a scrub and now I have no reason to see Ryback wrestle again after his streak is over this soon. Ryback can win, but he would get the belt way too soon by not being built properly. You may say the crowd is hot, but that's just by watching him squash guys for 3 minuets and not wrestling in a long match. I'm sorry, but I don't buy him as championship material after squashing the lowest of low midcarders; Ryback needed the push to the midcard and a midcard title to validate his push. I'm surprise that people want interfere in a Hell in the Cell, a match where some of the best matches have occurred in the WWE's history. You want the WWE title to hang in the balance of interfere which will lead to belittle the meaning of Hell in the Cell. Ryback doesn't need validation. If they put the belt on Ryback at HIAC, it would certainly put a downer on Punk's reign but I'd pass it off as striking while the iron is hot. I don't mean to sound like a dick, but why does everyone think the iron is hot? He gets good reactions. But so did RVD in 2001 (way more so, in fact) and they kept to their exact plan there. Ryback hasn't moved any numbers on TV at all, and has no track record as a draw on PPV whatsoever (although I guess you have to start somewhere). So why jump the gun when the actual proven commodity, The Rock, has a built in money feud waiting in January that could use some Punk momentum to make it seem more special? Ryback is NOT Goldberg. Goldberg actually had tangiable numbers to back up his push. He singlehandedly sold out the Georgia Dome on 7 days notice and drew WCW's last TV win against the juggernaut that WWF was becoming. To me, Ryback, at least right now, is Diesel in '94. The guy's over with live crowds, so Vince ejaculates all over himself and jumps the gun in strapping a rocket to him --and it goes nowhere. I'd like to see Ryback go on a win streak that like Goldberg, builds to better and better guys, until he's primed for the big one. Right now, who's he beat? Miz and a couple of handicap matches where guys walked out on their partner? Much too soon. That said, if they want to keep Ryback over, they could have him pulverize Punk so bad that the referee stops the match. You have Ryback celebrate with the belt and let the people go home happy. And then, the next night, smarmy Heyman finds a loophole that says that Cell's can only end in pinfall or submission, and after some legal B.S. Vince is forced to give Punk his belt back and scrub the decision. Then you have Sur Ser be Punk vs Cena vs Ryback, where Punk pins Cena. And whatever at TLC. And then bam, Rock at Royal Rumble. You keep Ryback unbeaten. And you keep the belt on Punk through true slimy means to build heat.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 16, 2012 20:52:31 GMT -5
Punk can win the match via pinfall or submission as per the rules of the match . Cena lost the belt to Punk and has been trying to get it back. Cena actually lost the title to Alberto Del Rio... however, the WWE chosen to Ignore both of Alberto's reigns in this story
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Post by kamero00 on Oct 16, 2012 20:56:29 GMT -5
They're not going with Ryback vs Rock at Rumble. So that means IF he wins, it will be 1-2 month reign, and that could do more harm, than good.
ummm, Punk wins, but controversially.
I'd say have him win the Rumble. turn Sheamus heel, and go with that for the side WM main event.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 16, 2012 21:42:39 GMT -5
Honestly, I think Punk is going to win clean (by rules of the Cell, anyhow), and then go on and on about how people STILL don't respect him. This reign isn't ending at HIAC. They'll want Punk to be JBL levels of hated by the time Royal Rumble comes around. Rock isn't coming in to wrestle a guy who already had his big loss. It'd be pointless.
Basically, keeping the title on Punk until Royal Rumble will ensure people plunk down good money to see if Rock can be the one to take the title from the scumbag champion.
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