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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 12:49:35 GMT -5
Johnny B. Badd was super over with the young'uns in WCW. WCW was selling that character hard, and it seemed like he had a ridiculous amount of charisma. I guess it turned out that Marc Mero was just really, really good in that character and sort of average in other ones. The bigger question is why did they give a generic gimmick like "Wild Man" and not a gimmick that let him have a similar persona to Badd. He was the prototype developmental guy it seems, the blueprint for all those flawed powerplant/dsw/early FCW guys as his training left him unprepared to play any other character but Badd. The WWF threw money at him as he did seem like a great performer, when in reality he didn't know how to show the charisma he had playing any other role. I think letting Mero use a JBB-alike character would have made their suit against WCW claiming Hall and Nash infringe their WWF characters that little bit harder to win, and would have opened them up for a countersuit. Ah, didn't realize those things happened so close together. I pretty much stopped watching wrestling between Survivor Series 1994 and Royal Rumble 1997.
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Post by willyjakes on Nov 10, 2012 13:24:18 GMT -5
I always thought they were trying to make him into the new Macho Man. Wild, unpredictable personality. High flyer. Sable. They had big plans for him
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Nov 10, 2012 16:19:42 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to see what would've happened if Mero stayed in WCW. Would he be able to evolve like the way DDP? Or would he just've hit a wall at some pint and stagnated while also being overshadowed by the onslaught of the nWo? Because at some point being pretty as a picture and looking like Little Richard can only take you so far before you start to stagnate.
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Post by cabbageboy on Nov 10, 2012 19:24:25 GMT -5
Am I the only one who didn't think Mero was THAT bad in the WWF? The big problem he had was that he blew out his knee and that took away a lot of his aerial ability. But he did have some good matches with Austin and finally found himself later as a heel. I'd be interested to see what Mero could have done had Sable not burned her bridge with the WWF and Mero left with her.
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Post by tms on Nov 10, 2012 20:20:30 GMT -5
Mero was a very good wrestler. I always thought his biggest problem was that his biggest feud in his face run vs Triple H never ended with a decisive, CLEAN victory over him (I know, what a shocker). You can give him the coolest pyro and the hottest valets, but if he can't score clean wins as a face what's the point?
In terms of talent I think Mero's one of the most underrated ever. Certainly no worse than those who made it to greater heights with far less physical gifts.
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Post by hitch on Nov 10, 2012 20:31:51 GMT -5
He was bad in terms of return on investment was concerned, wasn't he?
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Post by cherry coloured funk on Nov 11, 2012 2:01:13 GMT -5
I remember newz at the time had him coming in as "Quicksilver", a masked character. He was probably the most popular wrestler on the 'net at the time because he had either posted on, or admitted that he read RSPW.
Someone mentioned he got the first guaranteed contract from Vince (not counting Lex Luger's WBF contract). I always thought it was Pillman, though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 11:14:27 GMT -5
I remember newz at the time had him coming in as "Quicksilver", a masked character. He was probably the most popular wrestler on the 'net at the time because he had either posted on, or admitted that he read RSPW. Someone mentioned he got the first guaranteed contract from Vince (not counting Lex Luger's WBF contract). I always thought it was Pillman, though. Mero came in like 3 months before Pillman, therefore he gets the nod. As said earlier, he was at WM XII and did a promo, and Hunter just came off a loss to the Warrior.
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Post by cherry coloured funk on Nov 11, 2012 21:23:57 GMT -5
I remember newz at the time had him coming in as "Quicksilver", a masked character. He was probably the most popular wrestler on the 'net at the time because he had either posted on, or admitted that he read RSPW. Someone mentioned he got the first guaranteed contract from Vince (not counting Lex Luger's WBF contract). I always thought it was Pillman, though. Mero came in like 3 months before Pillman, therefore he gets the nod. As said earlier, he was at WM XII and did a promo, and Hunter just came off a loss to the Warrior. I just thought he never got a guaranteed contract, because he was basically fired/quit WCW for refusing to work that angle with DDP and Kimberly for moral reasons. If he only knew what he was getting into.......
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 11, 2012 21:30:52 GMT -5
Mero was coming off a pretty hot feud with DDP wasn't he? Watching old tapes, him beating DDP for the TV title got a huge pop and he was starting to get more serious.
Again watching some old WWF things, Mero was fairly over throughout 96 during his feud with Trips. But that injury killed him.
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Post by flatsdomino on Nov 12, 2012 0:36:54 GMT -5
It's all about negotiating skills, can't hate the man because of it. Seriously if you go back in time and put in the line Marc Mero, Foley and Steve Austin who would be your pick if you only had to pick one? And anybody who says Austin is full of BS because Austin plain and simple sucked in WCW. He was bad as Hollywood Blond, couldn't match Pillman in like anything, and his single matches dragged and bored the hell out of me. As a matter of fact Austin got "x-pac heat" from me before there was X-Pac. He had a feud with Ricky and he couldn't deliever, once again it was boring to watch, but when he lost that US title in a squash to Hacksaw that's when I first got excited watching SA ever! I think that is the reason I never bought Stone Cold cause I can't get the image of him rolling that imaginary camera out of my head. I mean, that's cool if you feel that way, but you're wrong.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Nov 12, 2012 12:11:19 GMT -5
Apparently, Mero was able to make good money in the business in general. In his book, Ole Anderson mentions talking to Mero before he was to negotiate his first WCW contract. While technically still an employee, Ole was no fan of the WCW office and the feeling was mutual. He told Marc to hold out for a certain figure (I can't remember what it was.) Marc was a little apprehensive about it, but Ole convinced him they would agree to it.
They went in and the office immediately offered him significantly more than the figure Ole had told him.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Nov 13, 2012 0:10:00 GMT -5
Any love for Mero's feud in WCW with the Honky Tonk Man? I loved the goofiness of Little Richard vs. Elvis. I heard that HTM was supposed to put him over on a PPV but told them to f*** off and no-showed and never appeared in WCW again.
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Post by flatsdomino on Nov 13, 2012 0:30:48 GMT -5
It's pretty interesting; it's very, VERY rarely the guys who are pegged as a "big deal" and get all the hype who actually wind up being the guys that blow up - guys like Mero and Henry were thought to be the future, while guys like Austin and Foley weren't thought of as much. WCW was guilty of it too. That the first guaranteed contracts went to Mero and Pillman, two guys who were pretty much done by the time the Attitude Era was in full swing, is indicative of that. For the most part, the guys who get brought in as huge deals (and with huge deals) generally wind up being busts - guys like Luger, guys like Brakkus, or guys like the KISS Demon.
Honestly, the one example of a "chosen one" (no, not Jarrett) I can think of actually becoming "the guy" was the Rock.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 13, 2012 8:45:41 GMT -5
Any love for Mero's feud in WCW with the Honky Tonk Man? I loved the goofiness of Little Richard vs. Elvis. I heard that HTM was supposed to put him over on a PPV but told them to f*** off and no-showed and never appeared in WCW again. Bischoff mentions something about it in his book. Said he took a lot of flak from Hogan because his job was to make WCW profitable and Hogan could make that happen so he took his bull. Honkey decided to come to Bischoff's office one day and said he wouldn't work unless Bischoff gave him more money so Bischoff fired him.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Nov 13, 2012 11:40:08 GMT -5
He and Pillman happened to sign at a time when WWE was looking to be aggressive in signing talent from WCW. I have heard it reported that Mero got the first guaranteed contract of that time period, which many claim would be Hall and Nash just a few weeks later.
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