The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 24, 2012 13:01:57 GMT -5
I try to defend Miz most weeks but this time...I got nothing. He really is kind of floundering right now. Maybe a change of scene to Smackdown or hell, even a face turn could do him some good.
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Post by thegame415 on Jan 24, 2012 13:25:38 GMT -5
I wish he'd turn face. It would be refreshing, and provide new feuds (Ziggler, Barrett, Rhodes, Kane)
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Post by King Ghidorah on Jan 24, 2012 17:15:52 GMT -5
He would be an amazing face, he has gotten people behind him as a heel. *Mitb, championship tourney* that would be fun.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 24, 2012 17:39:35 GMT -5
He even had a great match with Primo so it's not as if he has to be in there with WWE veterans. It's all about the right booking with a guy like him. Right now, he's simply not getting it. Dude, Primo's pretty damn good. He's been having solid matches on the B shows for a while now. As for Miz. If he left, I wouldn't miss him. Maybe he should consider going back to being somewhat of an interesting character and bring back his old shorts and fedora attire which IMO really suited him alot more than his current Jericho-lite look.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 24, 2012 17:46:20 GMT -5
He even had a great match with Primo so it's not as if he has to be in there with WWE veterans. It's all about the right booking with a guy like him. Right now, he's simply not getting it. Dude, Primo's pretty damn good. He's been having solid matches on the B shows for a while now. As for Miz. If he left, I wouldn't miss him. Maybe he should consider going back to being somewhat of an interesting character and bring back his old shorts and fedora attire which IMO really suited him alot more than his current Jericho-lite look. This. I like him, but he needs to find SOMETHING to spice his gimmick up a bit. Jericho is a genius at figuring out when enough is enough and Miz needs to learn that.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 24, 2012 17:57:59 GMT -5
I think Miz and Sheamus are two guys who will greatly benefit from the post-Wrestlemania shuffle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2012 18:07:20 GMT -5
Turn him face, reunite him with Riley, have them beat Primo and Epico, and be the new faces of the Tag Team Division. I like the idea of a Miz and Riley reunion, if only for a Poetry in Motion version of Miz's clothesline. Miz's turn should be a slow burn. Since Riley has been barely seen, he should just randomly appear in backstage segments with The Miz while Miz wishes him good luck in his matches. Riley could be friends with Cena, Truth, Big Show, and Bryan who can all be his "girlfriends" warning him about getting back together with Miz. Kane angle could also get into it, expressing disappointment in Riley for giving up on his hate for Miz. I like this idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2012 18:20:50 GMT -5
I was fine with the Miz until they started wanting us to feel that he was intimidating.
He's supposed to be a loud mouth obnoxious guy who needs to get his ass kicked, he's not a monster heel and they need to stop giving him lines that even faintly suggest he is.
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Post by johnnybaseball, Mantaur Fan on Jan 24, 2012 18:27:00 GMT -5
I don't know. He's not getting over too well as a heel right now. I don't see how he'd do any better as a face. Well, for one thing he might get his pre-WWE title personality back... It's like MAH BOY BOOKMAN T sez, that title, it DOES SOMETHING TO A MAN. I was fine with the Miz until they started wanting us to feel that he was intimidating. He's supposed to be a loud mouth obnoxious guy who needs to get his ass kicked, he's not a monster heel and they need to stop giving him lines that even faintly suggest he is. His involvement in the match between himself, Punk and Del Rio was perfect, I thought. He handcuffed Punk to the turnbuckle, then taunted him like he was some tough guy. That's the Miz I want to see.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 24, 2012 18:36:00 GMT -5
Well, for one thing he might get his pre-WWE title personality back... It's like MAH BOY BOOKMAN T sez, that title, it DOES SOMETHING TO A MAN. I was fine with the Miz until they started wanting us to feel that he was intimidating. He's supposed to be a loud mouth obnoxious guy who needs to get his ass kicked, he's not a monster heel and they need to stop giving him lines that even faintly suggest he is. His involvement in the match between himself, Punk and Del Rio was perfect, I thought. He handcuffed Punk to the turnbuckle, then taunted him like he was some tough guy. That's the Miz I want to see. Exactly. It's like if you had Ric Flair trying to stare people down. It would never work. Some guys aren't made to be monsters.
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Post by Indiana Miz on Jan 24, 2012 18:44:28 GMT -5
I was fine with the Miz until they started wanting us to feel that he was intimidating. He's supposed to be a loud mouth obnoxious guy who needs to get his ass kicked, he's not a monster heel and they need to stop giving him lines that even faintly suggest he is. As a fan of The Miz, I 100% agree. He has so much personality and him being serious and speaking in a low-tone is a waste of his best asset. Nobody is supposed to be afraid of The Miz. Even the other wrestlers joke about his 'angry faces'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2012 19:32:24 GMT -5
Miz did get it bad last night. Cut the most generic promo ever, then R-Truth comes in and tells him he's boring and lame, then Truth pins him clean as a suit. I think WWE is moving in another direction, and Miz is caught in a landslide.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 24, 2012 19:32:34 GMT -5
Put me with the group that likes Miz,but not as "intimdiating"
His personality agaisnt Cena feud and the Jomo Miz tag team,now that was a Miz that i like.Just a Joker Douchebag
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2012 19:34:56 GMT -5
He would be an amazing face, he has gotten people behind him as a heel. *Mitb, championship tourney* that would be fun. He'd be a far better wrestler as a babyface I think. His moves are all "comeback" style moves, his little neckbreakers and whatnot. His matches suck when he's dominating for a long period of time simply because he doesn't know what to do but punch, kick, stomp, shitty hold. His promo style could be altered into a face style quite easily as well. I'm on the turn Miz bandwagon. I'd like to get something out of him if he's gotta be around.
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Post by Abdullah on Jan 25, 2012 4:02:10 GMT -5
He even had a great match with Primo so it's not as if he has to be in there with WWE veterans. It's all about the right booking with a guy like him. Right now, he's simply not getting it. Dude, Primo's pretty damn good. He's been having solid matches on the B shows for a while now. I'm probably Primo's biggest fan on this site, so I'm not disagreeing. In fact, I couldn't have you thinking that I was insinuating that it'd be a miracle to get something good out of Primo. My point was that an untrue knock against him is that he can only get a good match when he's with excellent, top-tier workers (Bryan, Cena, Mysterio) - that's not true. He's done great work with guys like Primo, Bourne and Kofi, great wrestlers in their own right, but it defeats the notion that he needs to be carried through a bout. The rumble will be telling, as I said. If he gets thrown out fairly quickly, ten bucks says he's going the way of Drew Mac. Which could save his career or halt it further.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 25, 2012 16:38:20 GMT -5
While I can't stand the Miz, I don't think he needs to be fired. Honestly, I think one of the big things WWE fears is turning him face because he'll likely not get a good crowd response. Thing is, during his pre-WWE tenure on Real World and Real World Road rules challenge, he was naturally among the most beloved characters in either show's history. To this day he's even considered the Face of the latter. As love-to-hate obnoxious as he was 2006-2009, Mike has plenty of capabilities and proven history to be a very likable face-value good guy. Make him an unironic American pie cool guy who helps the divas and stands up to bullies. I promise you it fits him a lot more than the "intense badass" that does not work for him at all.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jan 25, 2012 16:44:18 GMT -5
Oh, for chrissake. Among all the wrestlers they have, Miz has probably the highest potential for cultural relevance: he's cool, he's very traditionally attractive, he has some cache through the Real World, and he's charismatic. He is not in danger of being fired.
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Post by The OP on Jan 25, 2012 23:35:01 GMT -5
Oh please, the Real World is beyond irrelevant at this point. MTV is seen as so uncool now to anyone over the age of 13 that if anything it's a knock against him.
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 26, 2012 0:41:31 GMT -5
Miz kinda has similarities with Sheamus if you think about it. Both have been WWE Champion and both became sort of lost after losing it. Face turn is definitely needed for Miz.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 26, 2012 0:50:21 GMT -5
I honestly thought that they pushed him WAY too quick for a Mania main event. Honestly a face turn would be great for Miz. We have too many heel midcarders.
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