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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 29, 2011 0:35:15 GMT -5
You know, Cole would be a fantastic heel manager. If he had a stable of 3-5 guys and helped the weaker ones on the mic get over, he'd actually be a more productive part of the show. He doesn't NEED to be some broadcaster just because he was. He's not JR, and fans aren't going to tune out because Michael Cole transitions into a more sensible role in the company.
You have Mathews, Striker, JR, and even Scott Stamford on hand. Mathews gets good use as Smackdown's guy and the occasional interview guy, but the other 3 are virtually non-existent. Whatever Vince has against JR needs to be put aside for business. You have arenas who cheer and chant for an announcer. That means they like him. And that means like Ryder, you should listen to the paying fans.
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Post by jimmyjames on Dec 29, 2011 0:38:34 GMT -5
I'll believe it when I see and hear it. And not just with Daniel Bryan, but over all. No Mizgasms, none of the crap directed at Booker and JR, none of the yelling like a banshee just to be heard.
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Post by zeez on Dec 29, 2011 0:54:52 GMT -5
BLEACHER REPORT?? WHAT A BUNCH OF NERDS!!!
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Dec 29, 2011 0:58:17 GMT -5
Smark Bait #1:"IT'S PUNK'S FAULT" Smark Bait #2:"IT'S RYDER'S FAULT" Smark Bait #3:"IT'S...UH..COLE'S FAULT!"
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 29, 2011 1:05:28 GMT -5
I'll believe it when I see and hear it. And not just with Daniel Bryan, but over all. No Mizgasms, none of the crap directed at Booker, none of the yelling like a banshee just to be heard. I actually don't think the Mizgasms are bad. It's just when he starts unabashedly burying everyone that it become unbearable.
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Post by celticjobber on Dec 29, 2011 1:11:14 GMT -5
... but when are they going to fix the Lawler problem? With mainstream fans, there is no problem with him. He's a beloved legend whose segments usually get a bump in the ratings.
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Dec 29, 2011 1:26:19 GMT -5
Is JR's health really that bad they just can't bring him back?
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Post by andrewgilkison on Dec 29, 2011 2:02:07 GMT -5
Is JR's health really that bad they just can't bring him back? I think it's the usual "he's too southern/doesn't look photogenic enough" deal with JR as to why he isn't the main announcer for RAW anymore. Probably Kevin Dunn's influence at work.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 29, 2011 2:03:35 GMT -5
Wrestling needs managers. It doesn't need a commentator who makes every effort to tell the audience that three of the company's current champions are all goofs who really aren't to be taken seriously. Cole would work fine as a manager. His stable could be called "The Cole Industry" or something. Being a manager would give him something fresh and new to do and leave the announcing to JR and Lawler.
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Post by jimmyjames on Dec 29, 2011 2:07:58 GMT -5
Wrestling needs managers. It doesn't need a commentator who makes every effort to tell the audience that three of the company's current champions are all goofs who really aren't to be taken seriously. Cole would work fine as a manager. His stable could be called "The Cole Industry" or something. Being a manager would give him something fresh and new to do and leave the announcing to JR and Lawler. Use the Cole Mine label for the stable and the members, Cole Miners. Sure, its corny as all outdoors, but it could work and help brings back manager lead stables. But, WWE apparently thinks the audience likes Cole announcing.
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Post by joebob27 on Dec 29, 2011 2:09:24 GMT -5
I don't really have a problem with heel Cole. I think it's more a case of Vince in the ear. Some heel Cole PBP, especially w/ Josh, is hilarious.
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Post by celticjobber on Dec 29, 2011 2:42:15 GMT -5
Is JR's health really that bad they just can't bring him back? No, he wants to come back. Vince just hates his style of commentary and they feel that he's not "good looking" enough to be on TV.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Dec 29, 2011 2:45:10 GMT -5
Watch them somehow make him much much worse after the change. That's if this is legit or not.
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Post by zing on Dec 29, 2011 3:29:07 GMT -5
Well done clever WWE! In other newms, grass is green and bears do shit in the woods.
Also, JR not photogenic enough? Ummm, have they seen Lawler lately?
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Post by MichaelMartini on Dec 29, 2011 4:19:27 GMT -5
Well done clever WWE! In other newms, grass is green and bears do s*** in the woods. Also, JR not photogenic enough? Ummm, have they seen Lawler lately? I never understood this. How often are they even on TV? Who cares about commentators looks? And is Cole supposed to be some sort of great looking guy? How "hot" did Vince think Gorilla Monsoon was? He was one of the best ever.
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Post by jimmyjames on Dec 29, 2011 4:40:29 GMT -5
But, you see, Cole isn't some redneck Hillbilly sounding Bubba from the South (Vince's views, not mine). He's an articulate Northerner, with no accent, plus he's not from a backward college like OU, he went to Syracuse. (Once again, not my believes, Just Vince's).
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 29, 2011 5:06:01 GMT -5
Bleacher Report; didn't read. Yup.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Dec 29, 2011 7:57:40 GMT -5
And also, I have never once seen a post that even closely resembled "OMG Bleacher Report not gonna read" on this site. If you're going to be condescending, at least do it about something that's actually true. First page of this thread: Bleacher Report; didn't read. So, you were saying?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 29, 2011 8:13:01 GMT -5
I don't like the Cole/Lawler or Cole/JR feuds, but Cole does take a level in badass on the mic whenever he directly interacts with Daniel Bryan.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Dec 29, 2011 9:24:14 GMT -5
I don't really have a problem with heel Cole. I think it's more a case of Vince in the ear. Some heel Cole PBP, especially w/ Josh, is hilarious. Heh, I agree with you. People blame the puppet (Cole) when it's the puppet master (Vince) they should complain about, IMO.
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