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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 20:43:25 GMT -5
So, what'd everyone think of the 4 way match? It's the first match I've done that's not singles. Criticism is welcome.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 28, 2013 20:50:29 GMT -5
Great show. I also greatly enjoyed MPM's segment. Sorry I wasn't around much this week, friends have been dragging me everywhere to celebrate my birthday. I hope I never see tequila ever again. That was my thought after only two shots of Cuervo.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Feb 28, 2013 21:12:57 GMT -5
BRB, I'm actually pissed off after reading Gus's promo and I am begging you to book a title defense for his team.
I'm sick of his character treating my character and so many other characters like jokes--and no, I haven't yet listened to that video he posted but I doubt it'll make a difference--and I"m sick of him putting conditions on who he'll defend the title against and how and where and so on.
f*** that s***.
He defends against who he's told to defend against.
If he's told to defend against me and the General, that's fine.
If he's told to defend against Hayden & Enigma that's fine too, although Hayden's already got a shot at the WHC.
If he's told to defend against Connor & FLynn, that's fine.
Just so long as he defends against somebody not of his choosing and without dictating all of the terms.
I didn't expect to win this week because generally when champions here have defended in non-title matches, they come out on top. But I did win, and I was pleasantly surprised. And I think a big part of why I won wasn't because people were impressed with Ryan Blood, but because they were sick of Richlen's egotistical bulls*** both in AND out of character.
Please BRB, remind this guy that he is not the booker. YOU are the booker.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 28, 2013 21:24:50 GMT -5
So we're not doing #1 Contender matches anymore? All I was trying to do was set up a match because there's at least four teams that can lay claim to a shot. I really fail to see what the problem is with that.
And I think you are reading stuff into the promos that isn't there. I'm not laughing at any of the possible opponents this week. All I did was say that the opponents for the title shot should be decided in a match and that I was wanting a steel cage match for myself.
And seriously. Watch the video. I was trying to clear up what I had been sayin. I already changed one person's opinion. Hopefully he won't be the only one.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Feb 28, 2013 21:45:18 GMT -5
After listening to your speech: yeah, you changed his opinion for like a day before "no title match for you" coming from Coventry changed it back.
And after listening to your speech, you're still being the kind of dickish babyface-in-name-only like Cena or Sheamus or any number of others who WWE has cast as babyfaces even though they were worse in many respects than the designated heels.
Hayden doesn't deserve respect because he hasn't been here as long as you? Bulls***.
You talk about how the ants deserve your respect. Well, Bull Ant hasn't accomplished anything more than Hayden, no offense to Bull. As a matter of fact, Bull Ant has accomplished less, because he's never earned a spot in the main event like Hayden did.
Now yeah, I'm fine with a #1 contender's match. If the Hollywood Enigmas wanted to take on Blood & The General for a title shot, or if Connor & Flynn were thrown into the mix, that'd be fine with me.
(As for the Ants, the only way they should have a title shot IMHO is if it's Bull and Moo Moo, because Antihero's been MIA lately and wouldn't be able to pull his weight promo-wise. Throwing Bull & Antihero against T&R would just be setting them up for a loss, not to mention that they already had a shot a while back and somebody new should get one.)
But BRB books it. Not you.
And you don't get to tell BRB what to do. You get, at most, to request things of him, like I just did. After that, it's up to him.
What pisses me off is that this seems to be more of Gus Richlen trying to control everything. You controlled how Aaron lost by having him cheat, when--and only Aaron can confirm or deny this, but I'm happy to guess--I don't think he wanted to cheat.
You controlled whether or not you could accurately describe Hayden as a whiny little bitch by making him run down to ringside during the match against Enigma and loudly complain about the Nightmare Express being illegal.
You controlled how the fictional fans saw your character by explicitly writing that they were erupting in cheers for you and they were booing the hell out of whoever your opponent was, even when the opponent wasn't a heel.
Nothing Enigma has done since losing the title--apart from the attempted cheating you caused him to try--has been heelish.
And the last f***ing straw is you trying to control who you defend one of your championships against.
This is not The Richlen Show. This is not all about you. Recognize that.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 28, 2013 21:45:31 GMT -5
Just to preface the following, I haven't read the promo thread as I type this.
There is a reason no one has been slated to face Transgression & Redemption: no one is actually qualified to do so. No one has officially announced that they are buying a Tag Title shot nor has anyone won a #1 Contender Matches to earn it either. I'm not sure where the idea that they are slipping through the cracks and dodging title challenges is coming from in-game. It's pure circumstance - some of it my fault as booker and some of it the fault of the players themselves.
I will remind everyone that there are generally two ways to get title shots in this e-fed: 1) getting good vote averages and thus getting booked into matches that earn title shots and 2) paying for title shots through the points system. The first is based ideally on strength of character, active participation, and quality material. The second requires you to have not only earned the points, but you must publicly announce out of game that you are buying the title shot(s). The members ought to know that so that come the match it is not out of the blue.
That said, I really need to post a list of the official tag teams and the members who compose them. That way I can regularly book Tag matches, keep them straight, and give out opportunities in equal number. Once I increase to four matches a card after the next supercard, this should be easier to fit in week to week.
I don't recall anyone booking anything without my approval. Characters have certainly declared things and I might have humored them for it, such as Seth Drakin's Interforums Cup tournament as it occupies some of the roster. It was simple, elegant, and flavorful to me. That said, I have yet to see what's ruffled your feathers...
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 28, 2013 21:49:59 GMT -5
Also, since it took so long for me to type that last post (along with various revisions), I would also like to say that I want to bring back No. 1 Contender matches on a regular basis. As with the Tag Match issue, it'll become easier when we have four matches a card.
Speaking of which, I wish WWE would bring them back too. Used to be a time when a No. 1 Contender match for the WWF Title was a respectably big match in and of itself...
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Post by General Adam on Feb 28, 2013 21:51:39 GMT -5
Can't we all just get along?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 21:52:49 GMT -5
I guess my match was fine then.
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Post by General Adam on Feb 28, 2013 21:54:50 GMT -5
I guess my match was fine then. I liked it. Especially how you did the finish.
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Post by BoilerRoomBrawler on Feb 28, 2013 21:58:26 GMT -5
I guess my match was fine then. I was going to address that until, well... Anyways, I thought it was good. Coventry was a bit of a punching bag, but he got a couple of near falls, and of course he more or less dealt close to the finishing blow, so maybe it balances out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 21:58:54 GMT -5
I guess my match was fine then. I liked it. Especially how you did the finish. Thanks man, but I have to credit BRB for the finish. Since he's the one who wrote it, I just wrote the match and he wrote the entrance and finish.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Feb 28, 2013 21:59:24 GMT -5
Also, since it took so long for me to type that last post (along with various revisions), I would also like to say that I want to bring back No. 1 Contender matches on a regular basis. As with the Tag Match issue, it'll become easier when we have four matches a card. Speaking of which, I wish WWE would bring them back too. Used to be a time when a No. 1 Contender match for the WWF Title was a respectably big match in and of itself... This is just my two cents. It's not a request, certainly not a demand, it's just my opinion. Here it is: I've always been a big believer in the thirty day rule. The one where it says that champions have to defend on a monthly basis, or be stripped of the titles. If I need ten more points to buy a tag title shot, or if the General needs twenty of his own for our team to get a tag title shot, then I'll do my best to accept that and not complain about it. If that's the only way to get a tag title shot. Thing is, I thought it wasn't the only way. I thought it was one way, that was introduced to encourage people to participate in the fed more. That if nobody bought a title shot, somebody would still be chosen as the #1 contender or contenders. Because if somebody just carries a title around for months without defending it, the title becomes meaningless. Hell, even having T&R defend against Botchsuke & Sammy Twister would be better than not having them defend at all, I think.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Feb 28, 2013 22:03:10 GMT -5
If that's going to be the general attitude, then the tag titles are vacant as of now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 22:04:41 GMT -5
Oh yeah, why is everyone considering Conner and Flynn a tag team now?
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Post by General Adam on Feb 28, 2013 22:05:47 GMT -5
I liked it. Especially how you did the finish. Thanks man, but I have to credit BRB for the finish. Since he's the one who wrote it, I just wrote the match and he wrote the entrance and finish. Oh...but it was still a good match none the less.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Feb 28, 2013 22:07:06 GMT -5
I liked it. Especially how you did the finish. Thanks man, but I have to credit BRB for the finish. Since he's the one who wrote it, I just wrote the match and he wrote the entrance and finish. Sorry Moonie--I liked it, and it was good to see Flynn and the General both get the win since they're both underdogs right now for different reasons.
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Post by Mr. Socko's Brother on Feb 28, 2013 22:10:56 GMT -5
Oh yeah, why is everyone considering Conner and Flynn a tag team now? I believe Connor said in the promo thread one time that he'd be happy to tag with Flynn, and Flynn (that's you, right?) said that sounded good to him. But nothing immediately came of it, so a lot of people forgot about it I guess.
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Post by Connor Mackenzie on Feb 28, 2013 22:12:24 GMT -5
Oh yeah, why is everyone considering Conner and Flynn a tag team now? I think that goes back to when you and I promo'd and Connor said he would be there if Jason wanted or needed it. I know you had something else in mind for Jason as well though so I didn't want to ruin anything in that regard for plans which was why I hadn't really pursued anything further as of yet (and for storyline and booking reasons). I thought you did an excellent job on the four corners match. Like BRB said, Coventry did come off a bit as a punching bag but he did also get some licks in and considering it was your first time handling such a match I certainly thought you did a great job with it.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 28, 2013 22:19:15 GMT -5
Gus, I support you on this and I do believe that a #1 contender match should be done.
Ryan, I understand some of your problems also with the character, however.........I dont think anyone really follows the 30 day rule anymore.
I need everyone here just to breathe because I would like to keep this place fun and I do not want anyone to be like I was at the end of 2011 when I left. I was in a bad place and I let my emotion get too caught up, which thankfully was relaxed when I quit for a few months as I needed a break to re-focus.
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