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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 10, 2012 18:49:34 GMT -5
This. IWC: We want TNA to do story lines with year long hype so that wrestling matches and shows mean something again! TNA does a long story line IWC: THIS STORY LINE IS BORING WHY SHOULD WE CARE?! IT'S GONE ON TOO LONG REVEAL THEM ALL NOW Not to single you out personally, but I really hate posts like these that insiuate all the hundreds of members here are a singular hive mind that we think exactly the same thing like we're the Borg or something. Word.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 11, 2012 1:49:44 GMT -5
Joseph Park taking down Aces & Eights would suck. Abyss taking down Aces & Eights would rule. Sort of like Joseph Park taking the fight to Aces & Eights only for them to give him a royal asskicking mid-ring...and slowly the Abyss persona starts to take over. I like it.
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Post by notasmark on Dec 11, 2012 6:28:46 GMT -5
This. IWC: We want TNA to do story lines with year long hype so that wrestling matches and shows mean something again! TNA does a long story line IWC: THIS STORY LINE IS BORING WHY SHOULD WE CARE?! IT'S GONE ON TOO LONG REVEAL THEM ALL NOW Not to single you out personally, but I really hate posts like these that insiuate all the hundreds of members here are a singular hive mind that we think exactly the same thing like we're the Borg or something. I'm doing a generalization of course not everyone that posts here or is apart of the IWC wants that but a majority. it seems to me that fans love to bitch about anything. When TNA had those months where they were doing basically everything right this year people STILL had a problem. Even then it was "Not enough former indy guys are getting pushed rah rah rah" and at that time Roode and Aries were feuding. They request longer story lines and TNA delivers. Now the slow build is "boring" and Eric and Hulk have booked this because they like motorcycles and don't care about anything but getting their outside hobbies over.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 11, 2012 8:10:01 GMT -5
"Long term storyline" holds no water when there's no progression. Can't chastise people for impatience or IWC bash a strawman argument
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 8:52:36 GMT -5
Not to single you out personally, but I really hate posts like these that insiuate all the hundreds of members here are a singular hive mind that we think exactly the same thing like we're the Borg or something. I'm doing a generalization of course not everyone that posts here or is apart of the IWC wants that but a majority. it seems to me that fans love to bitch about anything. When TNA had those months where they were doing basically everything right this year people STILL had a problem. Even then it was "Not enough former indy guys are getting pushed rah rah rah" and at that time Roode and Aries were feuding. They request longer story lines and TNA delivers. Now the slow build is "boring" and Eric and Hulk have booked this because they like motorcycles and don't care about anything but getting their outside hobbies over. The problem with generalizing is that you're arguing against a point that you created. Like your argument that people wanted long storylines and now that they've gotten one they hate it. If you would read through the thread you see that it's not the long storyline that people don't like, it's the directionless, underwhelming, and time-stalling way they've gone about it. If there was some end goal that was being built towards, or some legitimately cool surprises and reveals, or even just something beyond beatdowns every week, the storyline would be viewed in a better light. They haven't showed us much of anything that would make us care at all about Aces & Eights. People shouldn't be expected to get invested in a storyline just because it's long.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 11, 2012 10:02:40 GMT -5
I'll say this: I do think some people are overreacting with the "this is ruining the entire show!" mentality (though I can't really begrudge those people their opinion), to me it does come off as a bit trigger happy.
But I'm totally on board with them insofar as TNA really should firmly lock this angle into "Stage Two", whatever it might be. Said it before, but the best step right now would simply be to unmask another couple of guys, let the fans get used to them, let Devon speak for them, and let them just wrestle as themselves. Keep a couple of masked guys around as a way of saying "remember, ANYBODY could be a member."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 14:03:40 GMT -5
Not to single you out personally, but I really hate posts like these that insiuate all the hundreds of members here are a singular hive mind that we think exactly the same thing like we're the Borg or something. I'm doing a generalization of course not everyone that posts here or is apart of the IWC wants that but a majority. it seems to me that fans love to bitch about anything. When TNA had those months where they were doing basically everything right this year people STILL had a problem. Even then it was "Not enough former indy guys are getting pushed rah rah rah" and at that time Roode and Aries were feuding. They request longer story lines and TNA delivers. Now the slow build is "boring" and Eric and Hulk have booked this because they like motorcycles and don't care about anything but getting their outside hobbies over. People complaining on a message board? WHAT WORLD IS THIS?!?!? But seriously. Long term angles are fine, but they need progression. This Aces & 8's thing has had so little progression that it's maddening. We know who TWO people are, and one of them is Devon. We're expected to hate these faceless, masked people, but we have no idea who they are, or why they're doing what they're doing. You're just supposed to hate them because they're beating people up. There's no reason to care. You could skip three weeks of this angle and tune in on the fourth week and not feel like you missed anything. That's not good booking.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 11, 2012 18:10:48 GMT -5
How about this?
Aces & Eights very well could end being the best storyline of our generation.
As of right now, however, IMO, this storyline sucks ass.
That fair enough?
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 11, 2012 18:25:42 GMT -5
It's been progressing... they got strippers now.
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Post by Jeremy on Dec 11, 2012 18:35:45 GMT -5
Slow burn. Its developing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 21:49:55 GMT -5
My bold prediction: It will drag for another 6 months, then once everyone is revealed the storyline will just taper off and drop with the members not getting screentime much. Then there will be little to no resolution of anything.
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Post by saintpat on Dec 12, 2012 0:08:59 GMT -5
This. IWC: We want TNA to do story lines with year long hype so that wrestling matches and shows mean something again! TNA does a long story line IWC: THIS STORY LINE IS BORING WHY SHOULD WE CARE?! IT'S GONE ON TOO LONG REVEAL THEM ALL NOW Not to single you out personally, but I really hate posts like these that insiuate all the hundreds of members here are a singular hive mind that we think exactly the same thing like we're the Borg or something. We are the IWC. Resistance is futile.
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Post by Ryushinku on Dec 12, 2012 9:17:09 GMT -5
If they give the thing a hot final chapter, then it'll be much better in retrospect.
What's causing the doubt is that there really doesn't seem as clear a vision as Hogan vs Sting for it all, that TNA appear to still be without direction on all this.
I'm also resolutely unimpressed at gang deciding their targets by throwing darts to decide. Evil masterminds at work there.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 12, 2012 12:01:28 GMT -5
My bold prediction: It will drag for another 6 months, then once everyone is revealed the storyline will just taper off and drop with the members not getting screentime much. Then there will be little to no resolution of anything. So it will end the usual way all TNA super stable angles end?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 13:18:46 GMT -5
Not to single you out personally, but I really hate posts like these that insiuate all the hundreds of members here are a singular hive mind that we think exactly the same thing like we're the Borg or something. I'm doing a generalization of course not everyone that posts here or is apart of the IWC wants that but a majority. it seems to me that fans love to bitch about anything. When TNA had those months where they were doing basically everything right this year people STILL had a problem. Even then it was "Not enough former indy guys are getting pushed rah rah rah" and at that time Roode and Aries were feuding. They request longer story lines and TNA delivers. Now the slow build is "boring" and Eric and Hulk have booked this because they like motorcycles and don't care about anything but getting their outside hobbies over. No one asked for a long, shitty storyline. Just because it's terrible and also happens to be a long storyline, doesn't mean anyone's getting what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2012 13:58:57 GMT -5
My bold prediction: It will drag for another 6 months, then once everyone is revealed the storyline will just taper off and drop with the members not getting screentime much. Then there will be little to no resolution of anything. So it will end the usual way all TNA super stable angles end? Yep. Then a while later a new heel super stable will appear.
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Post by Aaron E. Dangerously on Dec 12, 2012 23:52:27 GMT -5
As the crap argument about people wanting longer storylines but now bitching about getting one, part of telling a story is providing details and advancing it. In 6 months we've gotten to know 2 members of a multiperson gang and one of them only joined after leaving the company so he wasn't even a part of the original group. We still don't know why they are here, how they were getting in prior to BFG, how all those people working for them in TNA came to be, or anything of substance. Not doing anything is just as bad as blowing your load too soon.Emphasis mine, and THANK you. I feel like that's all that needs to be said about this storyline.
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Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Dec 13, 2012 10:36:07 GMT -5
As I've said before this is Joseph Park's storyline, I wouldn't be surprised if Aces and Eights become hella overbearing between now and his re-debut because he is coming back with a vengeance and taking them all down. Hogan and Bischoff are high on Chris Park and see him as a potential megastar, taking down Aces and Eights will be his moment. Joseph Park taking down Aces & Eights would suck. Abyss taking down Aces & Eights would rule. While that would be cool I think he's going to come back as his old character Justice. I mean Joseph Park is a Lawyer and Aces and Eights have wronged him, I think that was the not so subtle hint that he will be coming in as Justice.
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Post by 4real on Dec 13, 2012 11:28:42 GMT -5
I was kinda dissapointed we didn't really get any progression at the PPV. Maybe the Brisco,Garrett and D'Lo turns are all in our heads or that's just what TNA wants us to think maybe.
And I'm fully expecting the return of Abyss in the new year.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 13, 2012 13:40:13 GMT -5
Aces and Eights is never ever ever getting back together Like, EVER.
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