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Post by darbus alan on Jan 9, 2013 19:52:10 GMT -5
This was just a nightmare. First you have the PED cloud, which screws guys like Bagwell and Piazza that never had a whisper about them. Then, someone like Biggio gets screwed by writers that never want to elect someone first ballot anymore. It's bulls*** and beyond f***ing embarrassing. There's been talk about Bagwell and Piazza juicing, but that's all it is: talk. The writers are so gunshy about MAYBE voting in a steroid user that they're treating guys who only have hearsay as guilty without any evidence or proof. It's so very unfair to Bagwell and Piazza. They're guilty by association even if they didn't do anything wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 19:54:38 GMT -5
I think we have to have a FAN Baseball HOF where we vote year by year and see who gets in our hall.
In fact, I will make that in the games thread asap. Follow me there if interested.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 21:06:55 GMT -5
If Barry Bonds is not a first ballot HOF, then I don't think anyone from this era will ever get in due to the steroid cloud, unless they are very highly respected (i.e. Derek Jeter).
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 9, 2013 23:23:36 GMT -5
If Barry Bonds is not a first ballot HOF, then I don't think anyone from this era will ever get in due to the steroid cloud, unless they are very highly respected (i.e. Derek Jeter). Biggio and Piazza were highly respected and they got jumped over.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 9, 2013 23:34:29 GMT -5
Nobody is a lock anymore. The secret many of the people who vote haven't written about baseball in more than 10 years.
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 10, 2013 0:06:06 GMT -5
Paul Waner went in on the second ballot Cap Anson got in on the fourth.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 13:50:40 GMT -5
þ@JackCurryYES: According to NYTimes, MLB and PA have agreed to add to drug program w/ blood testing for HGH in season and new test to snag testosterone cheats
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 10, 2013 20:25:28 GMT -5
After rejecting a trade to the Mariners earlier today, Justin Upton's partial no-trade clause has been revealed, with him be able to veto trades to Seattle, Toronto, Boston and the Cubs.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 10, 2013 20:37:09 GMT -5
After rejecting a trade to the Mariners earlier today, Justin Upton's partial no-trade clause has been revealed, with him be able to veto trades to Seattle, Toronto, Boston and the Cubs. That is a weird group of teams.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 10, 2013 20:42:49 GMT -5
I can understand:
Boston - Notoriously tough place to play baseball in terms of media. Though if true, strange he puts Boston and not either New York team.
Toronto - Might not want or able to move to Canada, and Rogers Centre is a crappy field.
Cubs - Cubs suck.
Beats me on Seattle though.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Jan 10, 2013 20:46:21 GMT -5
Maybe he dosen't like the rain
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 10, 2013 20:47:40 GMT -5
If Barry Bonds is not a first ballot HOF, then I don't think anyone from this era will ever get in due to the steroid cloud, unless they are very highly respected (i.e. Derek Jeter). Biggio and Piazza were highly respected and they got jumped over. Here's my thing. Even if they played in Bonds' era, if there is no proof they ever took any sort of PED whatsoever, why should that hang over their heads?
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Post by Renslayer on Jan 10, 2013 21:36:14 GMT -5
I can understand: Boston - Notoriously tough place to play baseball in terms of media. Though if true, strange he puts Boston and not either New York team. Toronto - Might not want or able to move to Canada, and Rogers Centre is a crappy field. Cubs - Cubs suck. Beats me on Seattle though. Safeco Field is absolute death to right handed batters. I imagine Upton's not gonna want three depressed offensive years to his resume headed into his free agency in a few years
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 7:10:30 GMT -5
Man, feel bad for Arizona. They could've had Taijuan Walker who is arguably one of the best pitching prospects in baseball. Ouch.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 11, 2013 7:13:22 GMT -5
I can understand: Boston - Notoriously tough place to play baseball in terms of media. Though if true, strange he puts Boston and not either New York team. Toronto - Might not want or able to move to Canada, and Rogers Centre is a crappy field. Cubs - Cubs suck. Beats me on Seattle though. With Boston it could be how toxic the team is right now.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jan 11, 2013 18:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 11, 2013 18:29:45 GMT -5
I can understand: Boston - Notoriously tough place to play baseball in terms of media. Though if true, strange he puts Boston and not either New York team. Toronto - Might not want or able to move to Canada, and Rogers Centre is a crappy field. Cubs - Cubs suck. Beats me on Seattle though. With Boston it could be how toxic the team is right now. When did he sign that deal? I'm not sure they were then. There are also teams that would fit some of those he doesn't list. Maybe he just doesn't like those teams/cities. Which is also fine.
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Post by mysterydriver on Jan 11, 2013 20:27:41 GMT -5
MLB The Show @mlbtheshow Congratulations to @thecutch22! The cover athlete for MLB 13 The Show. Check out mlb.com/covervote to view the final results. Andrew McCutchen will be on the cover of MLB13. The Pirates win!
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 11, 2013 21:08:48 GMT -5
Nice going for McCutchen being the cover guy for the GOOD baseball game.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 11, 2013 21:11:49 GMT -5
Speaking of that did we discuss MLB 2K13 is a thing that exists and is coming out.
Because what?
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