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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 14, 2012 17:48:27 GMT -5
The Mets DO realize that trading Dickey will alienate their fanbase. One of the guys that gives them hope, and they're gonna trade him for a box of cookies? The Mets need impact bats more than they need Dickey.
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 14, 2012 17:51:26 GMT -5
He's also a recovering drug addict and alcoholic. He's very fragile mentally so he needs that safety net. I know that. My point is that no one making dozens of millions of dollars should ever let any thoughts of screwing themselves up like that cross their mind. A normal, mentally fit person? Sure. But recovering drug addicts like Josh Hamilton have an illness. If anything, making millions upon millions of dollars ups the temptation to go right back.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 18:03:35 GMT -5
I know that. My point is that no one making dozens of millions of dollars should ever let any thoughts of screwing themselves up like that cross their mind. A normal, mentally fit person? Sure. But recovering drug addicts like Josh Hamilton have an illness. If anything, making millions upon millions of dollars ups the temptation to go right back. And even with a safety net he's admitted to relapsing at least twice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 18:16:46 GMT -5
Mets and Jays are getting closer but no agreement yet. I think we will get more than Arencebia (who stinks) and Gose (promising but has holes in his swing.) I think Mets are going to do all humanly possible to get D'Arnaud. If not, would want a pitching prospect with Arencebia and Gose. D'Arnaud is one of the best prospects in baseball so I'm sure he is the sticking point. Mets want him, Jays trying to move Arencibia and others instead. As a Jays fan, I'd love to add Dickey without giving up TDA, but hell, we haven't made the playoffs since 1993. I wouldn't shed a tear if it happened. I just want the Jays to get Dickey. That rotation (Dickey, Johnson, Morrow, Buehrle, Romero) is insanely good.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 18:20:48 GMT -5
Andy Martino of Daily News thinks D'Arnaud is in the deal and another player that's not Gose.
Morosi on MLBN thinks it could be Gose and either Arencebia or D'Arnaud.
Considering the Mets had a deal they liked, I think the odds of getting D'Arnaud went up.
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 14, 2012 18:22:00 GMT -5
Andy Martino of Daily News thinks D'Arnaud is in the deal and another player that's not Gose. Morosi on MLBN thinks it could be Gose and either Arencebia or D'Arnaud. Considering the Mets had a deal they liked, I think the odds of getting D'Arnaud went up. D'arnaud + anything will be a win for the mets.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Dec 14, 2012 18:24:14 GMT -5
To all Rangers fans: Trust me, I know the feeling.
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Post by BRV on Dec 14, 2012 18:38:55 GMT -5
A normal, mentally fit person? Sure. But recovering drug addicts like Josh Hamilton have an illness. If anything, making millions upon millions of dollars ups the temptation to go right back. I can't help but think that the fact that C.J. Wilson is on the Angels probably swayed Josh Hamilton in some way. www.aolnews.com/2010/10/14/texas-drug-free-stars-josh-hamilton-c-j-wilson-share-bond/If Hamilton ever feels those demons coming back, it's good that he'll have somebody like Wilson not too far from his side from February through October.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 14, 2012 18:58:02 GMT -5
according to marc craig of newsday, the mets do not expect a resolution for dickey tonight
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2012 20:19:31 GMT -5
Unconfirmed but Heyman is hearing D'Arnaud may be in the deal.
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Post by KofiMania on Dec 14, 2012 20:54:41 GMT -5
D'Arnaud would be an awesome get for the Mets.
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 14, 2012 21:00:55 GMT -5
A normal, mentally fit person? Sure. But recovering drug addicts like Josh Hamilton have an illness. If anything, making millions upon millions of dollars ups the temptation to go right back. I can't help but think that the fact that C.J. Wilson is on the Angels probably swayed Josh Hamilton in some way. www.aolnews.com/2010/10/14/texas-drug-free-stars-josh-hamilton-c-j-wilson-share-bond/If Hamilton ever feels those demons coming back, it's good that he'll have somebody like Wilson not too far from his side from February through October. Yeah, I thought Wilson being on the Angels would make Hamilton a good fit for them. It's really good for Hamilton to have a friend on the team that won't enable his addictions in any way, shape, or form.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Dec 14, 2012 21:31:11 GMT -5
Mets need to think of the future instead of hanging onto a 38 year old pitcher that doesn't do them much good.
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Post by Crusty Ruffles on Dec 14, 2012 21:58:35 GMT -5
Man, the Mets would be making out like bandits if they got D'Arnaud and a box of sunflower seeds. I get the Jays are going for it, but I think they're giving up a bit much for a guy that's probably walking at the end of the year. They're not going to make that much of a leap in one year into serious contention.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 14, 2012 22:10:58 GMT -5
Man, the Mets would be making out like bandits if they got D'Arnaud and a box of sunflower seeds. I get the Jays are going for it, but I think they're giving up a bit much for a guy that's probably walking at the end of the year. They're not going to make that much of a leap in one year into serious contention. maybe thats why the trigger won't get pulled tonight. maybe they want the mets to do a sign and trade?
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Post by RKTaker on Dec 14, 2012 22:11:31 GMT -5
The Mets DO realize that trading Dickey will alienate their fanbase. One of the guys that gives them hope, and they're gonna trade him for a box of cookies? The Mets need impact bats more than they need Dickey. actually not really mets fans want dickey to be traded
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Post by fw91 on Dec 14, 2012 22:14:12 GMT -5
The Mets need impact bats more than they need Dickey. actually not really mets fans want dickey to be traded wait, i don't get the box of cookies analogy. is D'Arnoud an overhyped prospect?
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 14, 2012 22:18:50 GMT -5
The Mets need impact bats more than they need Dickey. actually not really mets fans want dickey to be traded Especially it brings back a star level catcher like D'arnaud back in return.
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Post by RKTaker on Dec 14, 2012 23:55:56 GMT -5
i'm hearing a rumor that it's dickey,thole,parnell, and duda for Gose, and D'arnaud
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 14, 2012 23:56:57 GMT -5
i'm hearing a rumor that it's dickey,thole,parnell, and duda for Gose, and D'arnaud Huh while I like parnell that not a terrible deal for the mets. Would prefer a small piece coming back from the blue jays as well but it small. Also source?
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