Dragonball Z: Abridged Mafia Day Phase #2

[TOO SWEET]

Dec 22, 2012 12:49:02 GMT -5 Yami Daimao said:

Dec 22, 2012 12:26:06 GMT -5 TOO SWEET said:

I can pretty much assure you that not all three are mafia (I mean, you never know, one of them could be)

How so? Is there something you know that we don't?

First off: Artificial Human is town. That's confirmed.

But I'll rephrase: It'd be really stupid for three mafia to be the first three to vote for a person and thrust themselves into the spotlight this early in the game.

And knowing both Z Natural and Producerman's style, I don't believe they'd make that mistake if they were mafia.

Reading your next post: I don't think anyone is advocating blind voting, and yes, if we can find evidence then of course that would be very helpful. But I'm just saying that I think you're over analyzing the situation and starting to make the same missteps others have made in past games where you build a theory around one person being mafia and try to squeeze out everyone else's role based off of that.

Not trying to argue with you, and like I said, I have just as little a clue as you. But I'm just pointing out what I'm seeing to make sure that we don't make mountains out of mole hills.

Only other thing I'd like to address is this:

Dec 22, 2012 12:30:23 GMT -5 Yami Daimao said:

Dec 22, 2012 5:27:34 GMT -5 MrBRulzOK said:

Indeed, plus if Produce and I were both Mafia why would we pile on together now? It would be more prudent to wait for momentum to build up and then swoop in with our votes amongst it.

Would be kind of ballsy on our part to be the first to strike.

Not if you're experienced enough to blend in perfectly with the town. Do that, and you can get away with pretty much anything. I've never even considered you a candidate until now, as I just realized you've been defending ones who are under suspicion. Townies don't defend other townies because they don't who they are, unlike scum.

Townies sometimes will defend others based on what they've seen. Like, for instance, if someone were to vote for Artificial Human I'd defend him because I know that he is town (and even if it weren't as strong of a case, I could note my opinion and say that I feel he is more town-like than mafia).

[Big Bad Brad]

Just wanted to update you all on the night phase the first night phase I'm going leave up for 3 days instead of 2 which will be the norm after Day 1 is over.

The reason for 3 days is because in 2 days after the night phase begins will be Christmas Day and I really don't want to start the next day phase on Christmas I don't know if everybody here celebrates Christmas I know I do so you understand even if I have all the night actions in before Wednesday I wont end the night phase until Wednesday.

Now from then on out night phases will be 2 days no questions asked if I don't get all the night actions the day will start with what I got I will not delay the game because some people don't want to get their actions in that happened in past games it will not happen in this game and the night phases after the 1st I'll end the night phase as soon as I get all the actions or 2 days pass which ever comes first.

Also to the new players you can't post in this topic during the night phase first time is a warning 2nd time will be a modkill meaning you will be killed off in the game by me.

Just wanted to post all this now so you all will have a good understanding of how I'm going to do things.

[Waffel113]

Since the night phase will be in place on Tuesday I'll just do it now.

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!!!!

[No Longer a Produceman]

I'm really liking how everyone is offering their opinions and searching for scum. i know the dangers of going off of characters as basis for a lynch but i have nothing else to go on. I feel he's the best candidate right now for a lynch unless something else develops.

[Jazzman]

Ok,now that exams are over and I've read through the thread it's time for me to get down to business.

First, I'd like to say that I find it very interesting that Produceman and Z are pretty much running this game right now and that they have little suspicion on them. That's admirable but I'm watching both of you.

Produceman used this discussion based thing to nail me in WWF 88 Mafia by looking if people had suspicions and then used that against people further on. Z is willing to pressure vote, which makes me think he could be role fishing. It's a theory and one that I'll keep watching.

Also, I'm very interested in Jono as well. It's very out of character for him to be so quiet so early, so I wonder if he's trying something different. Maybe he's taking a new tactic as a townie, or maybe he's mafia... hard to say.

Also, a thought about what we may be up against. I'm thinking that we've got around 14-15 townies, maybe 4-5 mafia and I'm guessing somekind of third party, maybe a serial killer. It's just going off the usual ratios as shown in the hosting thread so we've got a decent shot (roughly 1 in 3) of hitting a non-townie on day 1. Just putting that out there for folks who may not think lynching is the right idea.

Right now I'm keeping my vote open, but I'm expecting that I'll vote before the deadline, whatever the town needs on day 1 is what I'm going to do.

[Yami Daimao]

I suppose I am being a little "gung-ho" about the whole, but it is my first time participating in these, so bear with me if I come across as eager. I'm still getting a feel for the game.

However, this doesn't mean I'm retracting anything I've said or changing my stance. As of now, we're awfully close to the deadline, and the best possible candidate that I've gathered is Jono. I, as well as the others who voted him, will not be 100% sure if what he says is the truth until after voting is over. If we're right, then we we're right. If we're wrong, and we ended up lynching our own, then it sucks, and we'll have to live with that mistake for the rest of the game. Though, he could help prevent that by stating his case better instead of just "Because this, that's why".

At the end of the day, we have risk it and vote.

[MasonK565]

Been gone for a day. Let me read through since I last posted. I am leaning towards the Jonathan Michaels vote.

[Yami Daimao]

EBWODP: I suppose I am being a little "gung-ho" about the whole thing*

[J]

Sorry folks, working at a grocery store during the holidays sucks. Im at the Ohio State-Kansas game right now so Ive had time to read through because the game hasnt started yet.
It does seem strange that Jonothan Michaels hasnt been too active, I dont think there is too much to it though. It is the holidys after all, besides I dont think we want to lose this strong of a player this early on.

But the problem is I'm not sure who vote on yet. I do agree that lynching day one is probably for the best. But reading through everyone reactions after Producemans vote, Im not picking up any vibes yet.

[Waffel113]

Brad, may you put up the vote-count?

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Said it before but yeah, it would be really dumb for the mafia to start voting in clusters this early in the game. I really don't think they would make that mistake.

[MrBRulzOK]

Agreed. The only ones I would expect to do that are first-timers. And so far none of them have voted aside from Artificial Human, and he's pretty much confirmed as town as it is.

[Big Bad Brad]

Dec 22, 2012 16:48:30 GMT -5 Waffel113 said:

Brad, may you put up the vote-count?

Sure

Voting
Jonathan Michaels : Vindicated (3): Produceman, Mr Z Natural, Artificial Human

Non-Voting
MasonK565
Lodi "Cyborg" Rulz
Jonathan Michaels : Vindicated
Legend Double H!
Spiked Mohican
Jazzman
CageKing is a SnorPuff
Classy Lady
"Krispy Kreme" Magiconz
Knailsic is Low
Street Spartan
Connor Mackenzie
Waffel113 vs. The World
Ralph Numbers
RKTaker
J
Yami Redgrave
SnS 3.0!!

There are 21 of you 11 votes are needed for a lynch.

Deadline is December 23, 2012 at 10 PM EST

[Yami Daimao]

Dec 22, 2012 16:51:59 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Said it before but yeah, it would be really dumb for the mafia to start voting in clusters this early in the game. I really don't think they would make that mistake.

That's a fair point.

Unless, that's what they WANT you to think.

Oh there I go again.

[Dub H]

Dec 22, 2012 16:56:14 GMT -5 MrBRulzOK said:

Agreed. The only ones I would expect to do that are first-timers. And so far none of them have voted aside from Artificial Human, and he's pretty much confirmed as town as it is.

Why exactly he is confirmed town?

[Big Bad Brad]

Dec 22, 2012 22:15:42 GMT -5 Dub H said:

Dec 22, 2012 16:56:14 GMT -5 MrBRulzOK said:

Agreed. The only ones I would expect to do that are first-timers. And so far none of them have voted aside from Artificial Human, and he's pretty much confirmed as town as it is.

Why exactly he is confirmed town?

He's the innocent child I put a link to it on the first post

Episode 31: Day 1 Begins.: Gohan is an Innocent Child: Commercials are fun.

Where it says Gohan is an innocent child.

Baba now don't start with me this is info I gave to everybody so there is no harm in showing Double H this because it seems he missed it earlier.

[Dub H]

Well...had been a more experienced player i would think he could just been claming to be Gohan for that reason. But i don't think he has the knowledge for that yet.

[MasonK565]

Seeing as how of the three players I would be willing to vote for on limited activity, only JM has votes, I shall vote for him.

Vote: Jonathan Michaels

[Big Bad Brad]

You all have 12 hours before the deadline.

Voting
Jonathan Michaels : Vindicated (4): Produceman, Mr Z Natural, Artificial Human, MasonK565

Non-Voting
Lodi "Cyborg" Rulz
Jonathan Michaels : Vindicated
Legend Double H!
Spiked Mohican
Jazzman
CageKing is a SnorPuff
Classy Lady
"Krispy Kreme" Magiconz
Knailsic is Low
Street Spartan
Connor Mackenzie
Waffel113 vs. The World
Ralph Numbers
RKTaker
J
Yami Redgrave
SnS 3.0!!

There are 21 of you 11 votes are needed for a lynch.

Deadline is December 23, 2012 at 10 PM EST

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Which means we need 7 more votes by 10 pm tonight. I guess we could do a quorem call.