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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2012 19:31:03 GMT -5
My feeling on its length was similar to people who thought Return of the King and The Dark Knight were too long. It kept going for about 20 minutes after the natural climax of the film. {Spoiler}After the big climactic shoot-out where DiCaprio and Waltz are killed, it just keeps going and ends up right back at Candyland for another big shootout. Aside from wanting to blow up the house, why not just have Django kill everyone else the first time through? Yeah - I'd have to agree. other than the fact that QT likes to pull the rug out from under you and then bring you home it did feel like the organic climax was bookended by about 20 minutes of additional (but still very entertaining) stuff. The only thing I can think is.... {Spoiler} We needed to see Django level up from 'former slave' to the same kind of trickster character that his mentor was. Waltz's character was all about the con and being theatrical and tricking the Aussie's was Django showing he's finally evolved to that level. On a separate note, Waltz's character progression was so well done. Amazing the way a guy who kills dudes for a living unwound psychologically from hanging around Candyland for too long. And I loved how.... {Spoiler} the whole time they teased that Django would be the one to snap and kill Candie by constantly reaching for his gun, but in the end it was Waltz that couldn't take his barbaric nature.
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Post by Cela on Dec 29, 2012 1:52:19 GMT -5
Saw it today, overall I liked it, but... {Spoiler}Django was kind of an irredeemable asshole. Not saying the bad guys were good by any means, but the movie slowly turned from Django having character to just being a straight up asshole.
Honestly, there were chances for character development, but between killing the guy in front of his son, and later killing the woman for no reason whatsoever, Django had no arc or redeeming qualities beyond not being as bad as the other guys. Truth be told, the second I read, "Produced by Reginald Hudlin" I knew what to expect.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2012 1:58:29 GMT -5
Saw it today, overall I liked it, but... {Spoiler}Django was kind of an irredeemable asshole. Not saying the bad guys were good by any means, but the movie slowly turned from Django having character to just being a straight up asshole.
Honestly, there were chances for character development, but between killing the guy in front of his son, and later killing the woman for no reason whatsoever, Django had no arc or redeeming qualities beyond not being as bad as the other guys. Truth be told, the second I read, "Produced by Reginald Hudlin" I knew what to expect. {Spoiler}The guy was an a murderer and a thief. It did linger on the shot of his son to show that there was some remorse. The sister was the one who signed off on sending him to the slave mine, plus she owned and profited off slaves. She wasn't exactly innocent. Plus, I don't think Hudlin had any effect on the film. Tarantino does whatever he wants really.
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Post by sryans on Dec 29, 2012 3:02:17 GMT -5
This is my 2nd favorite Tarantino film behind Pulp Fiction. I have never actually really seen a movie like this.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2012 3:07:02 GMT -5
I loved the movie everything I expected from Tarantino...but what ends up being the absoloutle most memorable is the music my gawd that soundtrack was P.E.R.F.E.C.T.
The opening credits with LUIS BACALOVs DJANGO just set such a tone that short of turning into space mutiny half way through the movie nothing was going to ruin it.
The movie was great but that soundtrack really put it over the top.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 29, 2012 7:59:25 GMT -5
Loved it. I'm a huge Tarantino fan. I was shocked at the amount of young children in my theater. A young black girl (maybe 7 years old) and her mother came and sat next to me after the film had been playing for about 20 minutes. This made me a little uncomfortable as this film is not really geared for someone that young. This girl sitting next to me was constantly upset or scared at some of the content. I only mention the race of the girl as this also made me somewhat uncomfortable. I'm white and sometimes I am self-conscious about how I respond to movies with big racial components. I feel guarded about what I laugh at, etc. This is especially true for a movie set during slavery.
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Post by Munkie91087 on Dec 29, 2012 13:16:19 GMT -5
Loved it. I'm a huge Tarantino fan. I was shocked at the amount of young children in my theater. A young black girl (maybe 7 years old) and her mother came and sat next to me after the film had been playing for about 20 minutes. This made me a little uncomfortable as this film is not really geared for someone that young. This girl sitting next to me was constantly upset or scared at some of the content. I only mention the race of the girl as this also made me somewhat uncomfortable. I'm white and sometimes I am self-conscious about how I respond to movies with big racial components. I feel guarded about what I laugh at, etc. This is especially true for a movie set during slavery. There's that good old fashioned white guilt. Haha. Similar thing happened in my theater. Someone brought several young kids. I am talking 1 and probably 4-5-years-old. The kids cried at every single loud bang. Really hurt the experience for me. Still absolutely loved the movie. Though Leo was incredible. Just hated his character's guts. Such a good bad guy.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 29, 2012 20:48:15 GMT -5
Really loved it. Though honestly there hasn't been a QT film I've disliked. Good times.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Dec 29, 2012 20:52:35 GMT -5
Really loved it. Though honestly there hasn't been a QT film I've disliked. Good times. Even Quentin doesn't like Death Proof
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 29, 2012 21:57:57 GMT -5
I did though. It was exactly the type of movie it set out to be. I'd say it was his weakest, but I found Death Proof enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2012 22:02:57 GMT -5
As much as I loved this movie to me True Romance is still my favourite movie he has ever done and is my favourite movie of all time.
Yea I know Tony Scott ended up directing but as far as I am concerned that is still Tarantinos movie.
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Post by BigBadZ on Dec 30, 2012 1:00:57 GMT -5
Just got home from seeing it and loved it. It was long but it didn't take anything away from the film, IMO. I read through the thread before I saw it (minus the spoilers) and I didn't find any moment that was uncomfortable to see or laugh at. Everyone around me seemed to enjoy the movie for what was going on. {Spoiler}The loudest laughs definitely came from the KKK bag scene. I lost it when the guy pulled the eye hole over his mouth, so he could spit. Also, Tom Wopat as the Marshall? I used to love Dukes of Hazzard so I was probably the only person to catch that in the theater.
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Post by anticonscience on Jan 2, 2013 13:23:05 GMT -5
I found it hilarious that Sam Jackson was basically playing a live action version of Uncle Ruckus from "The Boondocks" animated show Saw it yesterday and I thought that it was 3/4 of a great movie then fell off a cliff {Spoiler}I would have preferred it to end with Candie "winning" (I put it in quotes since the protagonists technically achieved their goal of rescuing the wife). He didn't take more money than what was agreed upon for the fighter and was going to let them go on their way before Dr. Schultz had to screw it all up, both the situation and the movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 16:00:44 GMT -5
Really loved it. Though honestly there hasn't been a QT film I've disliked. Good times. Even Quentin doesn't like Death Proof Gah, really. It was good. Is the fact that the Grindhouse gimmick it was part of sh*t the bed and its box office was crap kill his liking for it?
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 2, 2013 16:02:47 GMT -5
I hate living in the middle of nowhere. For whatever reason, our local theater still doesn't have this movie. I'm hoping they get it this weekend, I'm dying to see it.
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Post by sryans on Jan 2, 2013 16:21:38 GMT -5
A few nights ago, I went to rewatch this with some friends. At one point, a character spits out a huge load of tobacco, prompting a black guy at the front of the theater to shout "Ew! Nasty-ass honky!" It was the greatest theater interruption ever.
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Post by Brickstone Kid on Jan 2, 2013 17:35:21 GMT -5
Liked it, didn't love it. Waltz/DiCaprio/Sam Jackson were all amazing, but Jamie Foxx's Django has to be the least interesting protagonist QT has ever written (excluding Death Proof, of course). Too boring and stoic...never really felt like anything huge was at stake and the central plotline (trying to find his wife) took too long to get going. Early parts/middle consequently felt a little aimless. Really picked up once DiCaprio showed up, though.
This is one of those where I feel like the hype is causing people to like the film little more than they otherwise would. I'm hopeful a second viewing will make me like it a bit more, but as of now I rank it below Inglorious Bastards.
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Post by Danimal on Jan 2, 2013 17:51:51 GMT -5
Saw it today, overall I liked it, but... {Spoiler}Django was kind of an irredeemable asshole. Not saying the bad guys were good by any means, but the movie slowly turned from Django having character to just being a straight up asshole.
Honestly, there were chances for character development, but between killing the guy in front of his son, and later killing the woman for no reason whatsoever, Django had no arc or redeeming qualities beyond not being as bad as the other guys. Truth be told, the second I read, "Produced by Reginald Hudlin" I knew what to expect. {Spoiler}The guy was an a murderer and a thief. It did linger on the shot of his son to show that there was some remorse. The sister was the one who signed off on sending him to the slave mine, plus she owned and profited off slaves. She wasn't exactly innocent. Plus, I don't think Hudlin had any effect on the film. Tarantino does whatever he wants really. Ya, for better and worse every flick is his. There are moments of brilliance and moments of self-indulgence.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jan 2, 2013 18:36:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 22:36:53 GMT -5
Just got back from seeing it. It was good. Funny to see how many times people will giggle at the word "n*****".
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