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Post by cahuette on Jan 3, 2013 8:06:12 GMT -5
IWC: WWE don't make new stars anymore, and they don't push anyone. It's the same guys in the main event over and over again. IWC: OMG Ryback sucks he's not ready he doesn't belong in the main event he's being pushed down our throats. Way to go, guys! So you're saying Garrett, Gunner and Crimson should have had a three way maint event at BFG for the WHC?
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Jan 3, 2013 8:13:11 GMT -5
IWC: WWE don't make new stars anymore, and they don't push anyone. It's the same guys in the main event over and over again. IWC: OMG Ryback sucks he's not ready he doesn't belong in the main event he's being pushed down our throats. Way to go, guys! So you're saying Garrett, Gunner and Crimson should have had a three way maint event at BFG for the WHC? Their names didn't come up. What is being said is that the IWC got what they wanted and are still not happy. Not surprised. WWE pushes someone "new", he's over with most crowds, has a great power moveset, doesn't NEED to talk (but can), and is actually dedicated to the business unlike Goldberg and Lesnar. and because Ryback is over, the IWC hates him.
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 3, 2013 11:19:31 GMT -5
Is this the weekly Ryback sucks thread? Time goes by so fast. I swear these threads are just becoming a blur now.
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 3, 2013 11:24:34 GMT -5
I f'n love RyBack and loved big old corn fed Skip he was hilarious.
My idea is to have Skip Sheffield come out and when he gets pissed in the ring he turns into The Incredible RyBack and completely destroys!
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 3, 2013 11:25:56 GMT -5
"Forced down our throats" only works when the casual fans aren't cheering.
They are.
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Post by Lardlad on Jan 3, 2013 11:31:18 GMT -5
What I mean with Orton back in the day was he was the only one of the three that I thought was ready for the WWE...not "main event" but rather wwe television caliber matches. Yet he wasn't pushed on us like Brock was. Brock had size and a wrestling background but he wasn't "WWE" ready. But because he was a monster I felt he was forced on us...instead of him just rising to stardom via his work. If that makes sense.
As for Skip/Ryback I do feel it is relevant. It's not like he was like Glen Jacobs going from being Issac Yankem to Kane where you had a couple years between them and Kane came back wearing a mask...so you could believe it was a different character. But Sheffield coming back from an ankle injury as Ryback where the only difference is a singlet and his name doesn't work. To me I liken it to Triple H evolving through the years. Or better yet Mick Foley, being all four personalities in the WWE at the same time. It was always Mick Foley and that was fine the way it was presented. But again with Skip/Ryback there was no imagination involved in the new character and all I can see is Skip. Same thing with Tensai they tried to come up with a backstory for the new look, but fans still called him Albert. How many years was he gone from WWE? It just didn't work. And Ryback coming back that much sooner is just as bad.
And I hated that they used Evans as Human Torch and Captain America. But then it doesn't bother me too much as I wasn't a fan of FF. But I feel actors and their roles are different than sports entertainers characters. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 3, 2013 11:39:07 GMT -5
He is too big and strong and has a catchphrase that is too easy to chant.
That will NEVER be popular.
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Post by BK From WV on Jan 3, 2013 11:41:41 GMT -5
So you're saying Garrett, Gunner and Crimson should have had a three way maint event at BFG for the WHC? Their names didn't come up. What is being said is that the IWC got what they wanted and are still not happy. Not surprised. WWE pushes someone "new", he's over with most crowds, has a great power moveset, doesn't NEED to talk (but can), and is actually dedicated to the business unlike Goldberg and Lesnar. and because Ryback is over, the IWC hates him. Maybe some of us just don't like his character. I don't care if the IWC likes him or not. I think Ryback is horrible in the ring and on the mic. I like some people the IWC seems to hate and I hate some that most love. I've just never got the mindset of people that the IWC just get together and all bash on someone. If there is a weekly meeting of the IWC,I have yet to attend one. If people like Ryback(and a lot do),that's fine. It just bugs me that when someone likes or dislikes someone,they get lumped into a group that is just liking or disliking them to be cool. And truth be told,there may be people like that but it's not everyone. As for pushing new stars,I'm all for that but just because someone is new,it doesn't mean we have to instantly like them. I'm not saying you're saying that either so don't get me wrong. It just comes across that some people are like that at times.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 11:43:20 GMT -5
So you're saying Garrett, Gunner and Crimson should have had a three way maint event at BFG for the WHC? Their names didn't come up. What is being said is that the IWC got what they wanted and are still not happy. Not surprised. WWE pushes someone "new", he's over with most crowds, has a great power moveset, doesn't NEED to talk (but can), and is actually dedicated to the business unlike Goldberg and Lesnar. and because Ryback is over, the IWC hates him. Haha, is this a parody or do you actually believe this?
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Post by BigWill on Jan 3, 2013 11:45:54 GMT -5
IWC: WWE don't make new stars anymore, and they don't push anyone. It's the same guys in the main event over and over again. IWC: OMG Ryback sucks he's not ready he doesn't belong in the main event he's being pushed down our throats. Way to go, guys! So you're saying Garrett, Gunner and Crimson should have had a three way maint event at BFG for the WHC? Last I checked, this is the WWE side of the forums.
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 3, 2013 11:46:07 GMT -5
Their names didn't come up. What is being said is that the IWC got what they wanted and are still not happy. Not surprised. WWE pushes someone "new", he's over with most crowds, has a great power moveset, doesn't NEED to talk (but can), and is actually dedicated to the business unlike Goldberg and Lesnar. and because Ryback is over, the IWC hates him. Maybe some of us just don't like his character. I don't care if the IWC likes him or not. I think Ryback is horrible in the ring and on the mic. I like some people the IWC seems to hate and I hate some that most love. I've just never got the mindset of people that the IWC just get together and all bash on someone. If there is a weekly meeting of the IWC,I have yet to attend one. If people like Ryback(and a lot do),that's fine. It just bugs me that when someone likes or dislikes someone,they get lumped into a group that is just liking or disliking them to be cool. And truth be told,there may be people like that but it's not everyone. As for pushing new stars,I'm all for that but just because someone is new,it doesn't mean we have to instantly like them. I'm not saying you're saying that either so don't get me wrong. It just comes across that some people are like that at times. Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
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Post by BK From WV on Jan 3, 2013 11:53:07 GMT -5
Maybe some of us just don't like his character. I don't care if the IWC likes him or not. I think Ryback is horrible in the ring and on the mic. I like some people the IWC seems to hate and I hate some that most love. I've just never got the mindset of people that the IWC just get together and all bash on someone. If there is a weekly meeting of the IWC,I have yet to attend one. If people like Ryback(and a lot do),that's fine. It just bugs me that when someone likes or dislikes someone,they get lumped into a group that is just liking or disliking them to be cool. And truth be told,there may be people like that but it's not everyone. As for pushing new stars,I'm all for that but just because someone is new,it doesn't mean we have to instantly like them. I'm not saying you're saying that either so don't get me wrong. It just comes across that some people are like that at times. Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Wait,what? I get the Billy Madison quote(it's a good movie) but I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with what I put or if you're being sarcastic. I can't tell sometimes. Or if you just honestly couldn't make heads or tails of what I put. I do occasionally ramble so it's possible.
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 3, 2013 11:58:13 GMT -5
Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Wait,what? I get the Billy Madison quote(it's a good movie) but I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with what I put or if you're being sarcastic. I can't tell sometimes. Or if you just honestly couldn't make heads or tails of what I put. I do occasionally ramble so it's possible. I got the gist of it, although slightly rambling, I enjoyed it and half way through I thought of the quote. It made me smile.
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Post by BK From WV on Jan 3, 2013 12:04:45 GMT -5
Wait,what? I get the Billy Madison quote(it's a good movie) but I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with what I put or if you're being sarcastic. I can't tell sometimes. Or if you just honestly couldn't make heads or tails of what I put. I do occasionally ramble so it's possible. I got the gist of it, although slightly rambling, I enjoyed it and half way through I thought of the quote. It made me smile. Oh,it's fine either way. I was just confused. But yeah,I do ramble incoherently at times. However,my rambling got a Billy Madison quote out of it so it's all good.
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Post by cahuette on Jan 3, 2013 12:10:24 GMT -5
So you're saying Garrett, Gunner and Crimson should have had a three way maint event at BFG for the WHC? Their names didn't come up. What is being said is that the IWC got what they wanted and are still not happy. Not surprised. WWE pushes someone "new", he's over with most crowds, has a great power moveset, doesn't NEED to talk (but can), and is actually dedicated to the business unlike Goldberg and Lesnar. and because Ryback is over, the IWC hates him. Their names didn't come up, but a lot of people said the same thing about them, and I hope they know it's a stupid argument, when people want new blood, they don't want ANY new blood, they want good ones, and Ryback is terrible because he's over, just like Bryan and Punk whom I hate! Oh wait I don't, maybe I do hate Ryback because every single one of his matches is the same and he's incredibly goofy and not because he's over, what kind of dumb statement is that, seriously, almost as bad as "U JEALOUS".
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 3, 2013 12:20:14 GMT -5
The thing with RyBack is the WWE could be forcing somebody way more horrible down our throats like Bobby Lashley and Eli Cottonwood.
So you won't find me bitching about funny big goofy yup yup monster RyBack. I'm glad to be fed more.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 3, 2013 12:22:25 GMT -5
The thing with RyBack is the WWE could be forcing somebody way more horrible down our throats like Bobby Lashley and Eli Cottonwood. Or Ken Kennedy, or The Miz or Tensai, or Mabel
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 3, 2013 12:26:06 GMT -5
I f***ing love Ryback.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 12:30:25 GMT -5
IWC: WWE don't make new stars anymore, and they don't push anyone. It's the same guys in the main event over and over again. IWC: OMG Ryback sucks he's not ready he doesn't belong in the main event he's being pushed down our throats. Way to go, guys! Probably the dumbest argument I've ever heard in regards to critiquing new talent. The implied sentiment behind "we want new talent" isn't "and we'll literally take anyone new. ANYONE. Put a koala in tights and give him the world title and we'll be happy. ANYONE NEW! It doesn't matter who, how or why - just someone new!!!!!" People want new, but they also want someone good and/or who they actually like and NO ONE should have to clarify that because only a moron would assume that when someone says "I want new talent in the main event scene" they also mean "and please let them be someone I find no enjoyment in watching." The above quoted commentary is probably nothing short of trolling, but is a reflection on how purposefully obtuse people can be in a poor attempt to make a point.
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 3, 2013 12:35:03 GMT -5
The thing with RyBack is the WWE could be forcing somebody way more horrible down our throats like Bobby Lashley and Eli Cottonwood. Or Ken Kennedy, or The Miz or Tensai, or Mabel I would 1000 Tensai matches over watching any of the other wrestlers you mentioned
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