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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 5, 2013 4:28:57 GMT -5
Maybe they can't fly to Mordor but i bet they could have to Gondor. It was a 13 month Journey full of peril. They still could have cut that out a bit. I don't exactly remember if it's even mentioned in the films, but at least in the books it's stated that the eagles don't want to get involved period and as BerthelotsPepperSauces.com mentioned, Gandalf can't force them to do it. And again, the Nazguls would be on their ass within minutes and are way more familiar in aerial combat, and I don't think there are many Elves flying around to save Frodo in the nick on time. And of course the ring could still fall off.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 5, 2013 6:29:53 GMT -5
Maybe they can't fly to Mordor but i bet they could have to Gondor. It was a 13 month Journey full of peril. They still could have cut that out a bit. I don't exactly remember if it's even mentioned in the films, but at least in the books it's stated that the eagles don't want to get involved period and as BerthelotsPepperSauces.com mentioned, Gandalf can't force them to do it. And again, the Nazguls would be on their ass within minutes and are way more familiar in aerial combat, and I don't think there are many Elves flying around to save Frodo in the nick on time. And of course the ring could still fall off. Also the eagles could be corrupted and try and take the ring for themselves.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 5, 2013 6:43:37 GMT -5
I don't exactly remember if it's even mentioned in the films, but at least in the books it's stated that the eagles don't want to get involved period and as BerthelotsPepperSauces.com mentioned, Gandalf can't force them to do it. And again, the Nazguls would be on their ass within minutes and are way more familiar in aerial combat, and I don't think there are many Elves flying around to save Frodo in the nick on time. And of course the ring could still fall off. Also the eagles could be corrupted and try and take the ring for themselves. Absolutely. Involving the eagles would be very dangerous, in much the same way that Gandalf and Galadriel feared accepting the Ring in any way. The Ring has a conscience, also, so it loosening itself and falling off if on a finger, or otherwise screwing over its host if it can is not unheard of.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 5, 2013 8:22:25 GMT -5
Maybe they can't fly to Mordor but i bet they could have to Gondor. It was a 13 month Journey full of peril. They still could have cut that out a bit. The problem with taking it near Gondor is bringing it close to all those people. The Ring would without a doubt tempt them, hell Denethor wanted it, and he wasn't near it.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jan 11, 2013 2:58:15 GMT -5
Oh, I also remember one that always grinds my gears: why Aladdin doesn't wish for more wishes. The genie explicitly states while explaining the rules of what can and can't be wished, and I quote:
In fact, that's a pretty big plot point as because of this, the only way to obtain more "wishes" is to acquire the powers of a genie by becoming one.
(note: I'm talking about the Disney movie here. Not sure if that particular rule is stated in the original fairytale)
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Post by Cela on Jan 11, 2013 4:11:59 GMT -5
Oh, I also remember one that always grinds my gears: why Aladdin doesn't wish for more wishes. The genie explicitly states while explaining the rules of what can and can't be wished, and I quote: In fact, that's a pretty big plot point as because of this, the only way to obtain more "wishes" is to acquire the powers of a genie by becoming one. (note: I'm talking about the Disney movie here. Not sure if that particular rule is stated in the original fairytale) Wish for more genies!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 11, 2013 4:34:59 GMT -5
Oh, I also remember one that always grinds my gears: why Aladdin doesn't wish for more wishes. The genie explicitly states while explaining the rules of what can and can't be wished, and I quote: In fact, that's a pretty big plot point as because of this, the only way to obtain more "wishes" is to acquire the powers of a genie by becoming one. (note: I'm talking about the Disney movie here. Not sure if that particular rule is stated in the original fairytale) I've never heard someone saying that... especially since the genie even explicitly points it out when he first meets him before going into the rules. "Three wishes, to be exact. And ixnay on the wishing for more wishes. That's all. Three. Uno, dos, tres. No substitutions, exchanges or refunds.'
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 11, 2013 4:43:49 GMT -5
Oh, I also remember one that always grinds my gears: why Aladdin doesn't wish for more wishes. The genie explicitly states while explaining the rules of what can and can't be wished, and I quote: In fact, that's a pretty big plot point as because of this, the only way to obtain more "wishes" is to acquire the powers of a genie by becoming one. (note: I'm talking about the Disney movie here. Not sure if that particular rule is stated in the original fairytale) I've never heard someone saying that... especially since the genie even explicitly points it out when he first meets him before going into the rules. "Three wishes, to be exact. And ixnay on the wishing for more wishes. That's all. Three. Uno, dos, tres. No substitutions, exchanges or refunds.' They do have Aladdin get a freebie by not explicitly wishing, just putting Genie up to helping them escape, but Genie concedes this and asks him to not pull that stunt again. Otherwise, they seem to stick to the three wishes.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 11, 2013 4:58:06 GMT -5
Yeah, he does point out after doing that "no more freebies" and brings it up as a reason why saving his life had to count as a wish.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Jan 11, 2013 6:18:17 GMT -5
One I've seen with the twist ending to Breaking Dawn: how Alice see detailed visions involving the Wolves? I have two solutions:
1) The reason she can't see visions involving the wolves according to the books is that she can't predict them changing, and in the ending they are already morphed.
2) She's lying her ass off
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