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Post by bob on Jan 6, 2013 1:41:47 GMT -5
I've never heard that either. I think more people are just sick of his schtick than whether or not he'll put someone else over. This thread is a farce. A FARCE.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 5:45:34 GMT -5
When he lost to Big Boss Man and Hurricane I never questioned this again
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 10:59:28 GMT -5
For everyone who's like, "Ugh! The Rock doesn't NEED to come back for the money! He's already rich!"
Just know - that's a terrible line of reasoning. No matter how rich people get - it's never enough and they'd gladly give it all up for just a little bit more. There's no such thing as a rich person who "doesn't want to make more money."
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Post by Big Kahuna Burger on Jan 6, 2013 11:21:33 GMT -5
For everyone who's like, "Ugh! The Rock doesn't NEED to come back for the money! He's already rich!" Just know - that's a terrible line of reasoning. No matter how rich people get - it's never enough and they'd gladly give it all up for just a little bit more. There's no such thing as a rich person who "doesn't want to make more money." Whereas CM Punk wrestles for free.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 11:22:38 GMT -5
For everyone who's like, "Ugh! The Rock doesn't NEED to come back for the money! He's already rich!" Just know - that's a terrible line of reasoning. No matter how rich people get - it's never enough and they'd gladly give it all up for just a little bit more. There's no such thing as a rich person who "doesn't want to make more money." Whereas CM Punk wrestles for free. Haha! RIGHT. Except for the fact that he's pretty much openly stated he came back for more money, better working conditions, etc etc, smarking out a bit eh. Come on...
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 6, 2013 11:28:14 GMT -5
We smarks are surprisingly easy to work, people have just fallen for the view of The Rock that was created in the build-up to his WM match with Cena.
I'm pretty sure he'll put somebody over during his upcoming run, it can't be as simple as winning the title at RR and losing it to Cena at WM (can it?). I doubt he'll be as remote as he was when feuding with Cena, hell he's already interacted with Bryan and that must have helped him seem a big deal to casual fans tuning in for Raw 1000. So even if Rock doesn't lose to anybody in a match just being in the same ring/backstage promo as him can help some guys get over.
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Post by klapaucius on Jan 6, 2013 11:33:59 GMT -5
Whereas CM Punk wrestles for free. Haha! RIGHT. Except for the fact that he's pretty much openly stated he came back for more money, better working conditions, etc etc, smarking out a bit eh. Come on...
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 6, 2013 11:44:07 GMT -5
In all fairness, he's had physical interaction with 10 guys since he returned. Only one such altercation ended without Rocky standing tall over everyone involved, probably having Rock Bottomed/People's Elbowed everyone in sight.
Not really his fault, but it's not like he's the face of putting people over right now.
I mean, who gained from the segment where he squashed the Corre? They looked like chumps, and it was pretty much the start of their downturn as a stable, and nobody even remembers that segment when it comes to the Rock himself. Pointless.
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Post by wrestling4ever on Jan 6, 2013 12:14:02 GMT -5
For everyone who's like, "Ugh! The Rock doesn't NEED to come back for the money! He's already rich!" Just know - that's a terrible line of reasoning. No matter how rich people get - it's never enough and they'd gladly give it all up for just a little bit more. There's no such thing as a rich person who "doesn't want to make more money." He doesn't need the WWE money though Its a great bonus for him, as it is for a lot of the guys in the WWE, but he was doing just fine without them money wise. The WWE money was always there. If he needed it, he would have never ventured off to make money on his own in the first place. Its just that people just say hes ONLY doing it for money that causes people to say stuff like hes not. " HE dont care he only doing it for money!Q! sellout!!!" blah blah blah. Im pretty sure money isnt the driving force to him returning. He aint working for free, but getting out there in the live crowds, having fun, getting the chance to work some matches and kick it with some of the boys is a good enough motive for him. WWE is like a fun getaway from the busy Hollywood life so to speak. I mean, who gained from the segment where he squashed the Corre? They looked like chumps, and it was pretty much the start of their downturn as a stable, and nobody even remembers that segment when it comes to the Rock himself. Pointless. Corre was done the night before when they got beat pretty quick in that tag match. They were hardly a threat anyway. The point of them coming out wasn't to make them look good but to have Rock/Cena try and one up each other. Speaking of Cena, he was well apart of that segment as well, so lets not just sit there and say Rock was the only one.
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Post by hughgrection on Jan 6, 2013 13:24:20 GMT -5
For everyone who's like, "Ugh! The Rock doesn't NEED to come back for the money! He's already rich!" Just know - that's a terrible line of reasoning. No matter how rich people get - it's never enough and they'd gladly give it all up for just a little bit more. There's no such thing as a rich person who "doesn't want to make more money." Whereas CM Punk wrestles for free. No FAN:WWE thread is complete without the "If CM Punk did it" argument!
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 6, 2013 13:51:31 GMT -5
For everyone who's like, "Ugh! The Rock doesn't NEED to come back for the money! He's already rich!" Just know - that's a terrible line of reasoning. No matter how rich people get - it's never enough and they'd gladly give it all up for just a little bit more. There's no such thing as a rich person who "doesn't want to make more money." Yes but the money he's getting paid by WWE is probably chump-change for a guy who's churning out 2-3 Hollywood blockbusters per year. Even if WWE pays him a million per match I wouldn't be surprised if Rock makes more than 50 times that per year for his movies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2013 14:16:22 GMT -5
For everyone who's like, "Ugh! The Rock doesn't NEED to come back for the money! He's already rich!" Just know - that's a terrible line of reasoning. No matter how rich people get - it's never enough and they'd gladly give it all up for just a little bit more. There's no such thing as a rich person who "doesn't want to make more money." Yes but the money he's getting paid by WWE is probably chump-change for a guy who's churning out 2-3 Hollywood blockbusters per year. Even if WWE pays him a million per match I wouldn't be surprised if Rock makes more than 50 times that per year for his movies. Yes. But look at it like this. Making one movie can take 3-4 months of working long hours. Then you throw in press, touring to promote, etc.. it ends up being a lot of work, which he gets paid a lot of money for. With WWE he does minimal appearances (though I'd argue definitely a reasonable amount to promote his PPV appearance). The amount of man-hours he'll end up putting into working with WWE this year will probably be less than one day of work on a movie set. A few spots on Raw or Smackdown and a two or three PPV matches. In total, it's way less than what he'd get for a movie, but on a "per hour" basis - he's probably making more. On top of that is publicity he'll receive for his upcoming films (of which he hopefully has a piece of the back end on). WWE is a machine with a huge fan base that can aide the Rock in getting more people to go see his films. Let's face it - WWE will probably talk about the Rock 5X more than we'll actually see him and that goes out to the however many million WWE viewers each week. Now, I'm not saying that he HATES wrestling for WWE or anything - in fact, I'm sure he gets quite the kick out of it, but just that the arguement that a rich guy would NEVER do something just to make more money is pretty false.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 6, 2013 14:16:31 GMT -5
I like the Rock,
But can he come back and NOT be booked like a demigod who's above the entire roster? I'm sure he has enough stroke to veto any video packages and recaps they make of him. He should ask, "Can you not air this video package and put on a Johnny Curtis vs. Zack Ryder match instead?
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Post by frogsplash45 on Jan 6, 2013 14:25:57 GMT -5
BECAUSE HE WENT TO HOLLYWOOD! If that phony really loved wrestling, he would continue to destroy his body for my enjoyment! I have heard this argument before, and while it has validity, I highly doubt most here would be very supportive of Daniel Bryan or CM Punk or Dean Ambrose if they decided to quit pro wrestling tomorrow because they don't like how tough it is.
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Post by Arrow on Jan 6, 2013 14:59:17 GMT -5
BECAUSE HE WENT TO HOLLYWOOD! If that phony really loved wrestling, he would continue to destroy his body for my enjoyment! I have heard this argument before, and while it has validity, I highly doubt most here would be very supportive of Daniel Bryan or CM Punk or Dean Ambrose if they decided to quit pro wrestling tomorrow because they don't like how tough it is. ... so what? Wrestling isn't a life commitment, and anyone should be able to leave without being hated for it. Who cares what anyone here would think? I like the Rock, But can he come back and NOT be booked like a demigod who's above the entire roster? I'm sure he has enough stroke to veto any video packages and recaps they make of him. He should ask, "Can you not air this video package and put on a Johnny Curtis vs. Zack Ryder match instead? If you have someone on the show who you see as a big deal, or a segment where something big is going to happen, it should be hyped as much as possible so that you continue to get people interested.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 6, 2013 15:00:49 GMT -5
BECAUSE HE WENT TO HOLLYWOOD! If that phony really loved wrestling, he would continue to destroy his body for my enjoyment! I have heard this argument before, and while it has validity, I highly doubt most here would be very supportive of Daniel Bryan or CM Punk or Dean Ambrose if they decided to quit pro wrestling tomorrow because they don't like how tough it is. I would, because it is.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 6, 2013 15:31:07 GMT -5
I have heard this argument before, and while it has validity, I highly doubt most here would be very supportive of Daniel Bryan or CM Punk or Dean Ambrose if they decided to quit pro wrestling tomorrow because they don't like how tough it is. ... so what? Wrestling isn't a life commitment, and anyone should be able to leave without being hated for it. Who cares what anyone here would think? Exactly. Arguments like that is what gives me such a low opinion of some wrestling fans, because they practically demand that wrestlers do nothing but wrestle until the fans get too tired of them to support them. If someone feels they've accomplished all they've wanted to in a business, and leave to do something else they love, then great for them. The WWE couldn't do anything more for the Rock, and to be frank, the Rock really couldn't do much else for the WWE at that point in his career. I applaud anyone who achieves what they want without needing half a bottle of pain pills a day for the rest of their life, and if there are fans out there don't like it, screw them. Anyone who has ever voluntarily left a job to do something else really has no business criticizing The Rock or anyone else for doing so. Wrestlers don't owe the fans or the company anything after their contract is up.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jan 6, 2013 15:35:05 GMT -5
The real question is why is WWE so scared to put someone over Rock. Rock probably wouldn't have a problem with it.
But WWE is so terrified of the non-fans going away again if that happens or some other kind of backlash because Demigod Dwayne Johnson lost that they won't do it.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 6, 2013 15:38:02 GMT -5
The real question is why is WWE so scared to put someone over Rock. Rock probably wouldn't have a problem with it. But WWE is so terrified of the non-fans going away again if that happens or some other kind of backlash because Demigod Dwayne Johnson lost that they won't do it. I think it made sense early on. If they wanted to build Cena vs. Rock as the biggest match of the year, you have to try to protect both guys as much as they can. While Cena can't realistically go a whole year without losing, Rock has limited appearances and 1 match prior to it, so he can. The weirdest decisions was Cena's treatment before the Awesome Truth match, where he pretty much proved he needed no help to beat them both.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 6, 2013 15:38:39 GMT -5
I like the Rock, But can he come back and NOT be booked like a demigod who's above the entire roster? I'm sure he has enough stroke to veto any video packages and recaps they make of him. He should ask, "Can you not air this video package and put on a Johnny Curtis vs. Zack Ryder match instead? Not sure if serious.
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