Eunös ✈
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jan 10, 2013 18:26:28 GMT -5
I love both but dare I say it, I actually think the comics are ahead just abit for me  Absolutely loving the Negan saga I certinaly look forward to seeing how the TV show handles that saga (Assuming it gets there ofcourse  ) |
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Juice
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Post by Juice on Jan 10, 2013 18:41:19 GMT -5
IMO the books fall into the OMG ZOMBIZ category. If the show weren't so different at the beginning it wouldn't have lasted. The differences make the show. I'm not sure how the book falls into OMG Zombiz category at all....Kirkman always said the intention of the book was the "Walking Dead" was more so about the people. I also totally disagree the second sentence I quoted. You definitely can't say that for certain. Which is why I began with "IN MY OPINION" The differences thus far that have made the show a dramatic telling of the people (and not the omg zombiz) Carols husband ed is alive, and abusive. If we don't see her mistreated then she doesn't have much room to develop as the show has gone on. T Dogs presence on the show isn't much, but for some reason I like him. He was a contributing factor in me liking it. Correct me if I am wrong but the season one finale with the cdc and the scientist was not part of the books? That was one of the best episodes of the series. As stated earlier fan favorites of the Show Daryl and Merle wouldn't exist and therefore any of their arcs through the show would not have happened. That's a big bulk of the series, Daryls development that is. Shane/Lori affair. Its a one night stand in the books, Lori leaves Rick in the hospital because of the army. In the show Shane tells her he's dead they have a prolonged affair that ultimately turns Shane into the anti hero/villian of the show and as Shane gets worse Rick finds his his nuts and becomes the true leader. A MUCH MUCH better story than what is in the books. The bulk of what made season 2 never happened in the comics. Shane killing otis is my favorite part of the series as it it demonstrates a new direction for Shane. he is willing to kill and does so. Otis dies at the prison part of the comics in pretty lame fashion. Dales death was different and I am glad cause the character was annoying. Most disagree with me on this but the first half of season two is so much better than the second. We have so much character development and great narratives as the focus is on the humans, and the search for Sophie. which also doesn't happen in the books So much personal growth. Once the action picks up in the second half it lost some steam IMO. other things like Andrea being separated kept the show in an interesting direction. These differences aren't just a chemical make up. These differences have made the show. without these differences there is no show. Had the show been presented 100% true to the books it's a different story, it's a lame story and it wouldn't be as good, possibly even a failed experiment. |
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Post by The Last Hero on Jan 10, 2013 19:05:59 GMT -5
Has anyone even said they wanted it 100% true to the books? Also, I get it "it's your opinion" but the whole "OMGZOMBIZ" thing you keep saying really irks me for some reason. Mainly because of what the author himself says what the series is about.
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Juice
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Post by Juice on Jan 10, 2013 19:10:34 GMT -5
MY point, before the differences were pointed out....IS that you like this show. I like the show. It can't last last with Kirkmans attitude. AMC wanted budget cuts in season 2. That's never a good sign. Now there is production halts, and for the second time a show runner being fired, because Kirkman didn't like him? How long can AMC continue to try to work with this guy before his attitude causes the show to be cancelled? ^ point of thread. Has anyone even said they wanted it 100% true to the books? Also, I get it "it's your opinion" but the whole "OMGZOMBIZ" thing you keep saying really irks me for some reason. Mainly because of what the author himself says what the series is about. Kirkman seems to think so |
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Post by The Last Hero on Jan 10, 2013 19:13:21 GMT -5
MY point, before the differences were pointed out....IS that you like this show. I like the show. It can't last last with Kirkmans attitude. AMC wanted budget cuts in season 2. That's never a good sign. Now there is production halts, and for the second time a show runner being fired, because Kirkman didn't like him? How long can AMC continue to try to work with this guy before his attitude causes the show to be cancelled? ^ point of thread. Has anyone even said they wanted it 100% true to the books? Also, I get it "it's your opinion" but the whole "OMGZOMBIZ" thing you keep saying really irks me for some reason. Mainly because of what the author himself says what the series is about. Kirkman seems to think so What do you have some inside information or something? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 19:25:58 GMT -5
MY point, before the differences were pointed out....IS that you like this show. I like the show. It can't last last with Kirkmans attitude. AMC wanted budget cuts in season 2. That's never a good sign. Now there is production halts, and for the second time a show runner being fired, because Kirkman didn't like him? How long can AMC continue to try to work with this guy before his attitude causes the show to be cancelled? ^ point of thread. Has anyone even said they wanted it 100% true to the books? Also, I get it "it's your opinion" but the whole "OMGZOMBIZ" thing you keep saying really irks me for some reason. Mainly because of what the author himself says what the series is about. Kirkman seems to think so Point of fact. Kirkman's gone on record as saying he wants the show to be different from the book. He's got a clear vision for the show, but doesn't want to re-tell the book because, well - people could just read the book for that story. I never really read the Walking Dead comics beyond the first volume, but Kirkman created the show/concept/book and if he thinks Mazzara isn't a good fit for the show anymore, then that's his call to make and if the show flops because of it - that's his cross to bear. But, at end of the day THE WALKING DEAD will always be known as Robert Kirkman's brainchild. His name is forever associated with it and creative differences aside, I'd rather call my own shots on a project and fail by my own terms then let someone else take it in a direction I'm not comfortable with and it fail because I didn't step up and make the tough calls. Mazzara may have had a hand in making it, but Kirkman's legacy is on the line with each season. That being said - I find the fiery reactions hilarious considering we haven't seen any episodes since after Mazzara's departure. |
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Jan 10, 2013 19:39:43 GMT -5
How do you know the good points of the show aren't because of Kirkman? Maybe he sticks around and others go because the complaints about each season are more the brain child of the show runners?
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