Snowman
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Post by Snowman on Jan 19, 2013 14:43:36 GMT -5
What were the racial implications of DOA? I don't remember any racial overtones just them being bikers.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 19, 2013 15:35:57 GMT -5
What were the racial implications of DOA? I don't remember any racial overtones just them being bikers. White (and in the case of the Harris twins, bald) bikers getting cheered for beating up blacks (Nation) and hispanics (Boricuas).
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MolotovMocktail
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 19, 2013 15:41:08 GMT -5
I never considered the Hart Foundation and DX as part of the Gang Warz angle; they just had one encounter where DX set the Foundation up to be attacked by the Nation when they framed the Foundation for vandalizing the Nation's locker room.
Even the Truth Commission came in right at the very end, and only had a mini-feud with DOA.
Between the three main factions, I went mostly with the Nation. Everyone in DOA except Crush sucked, and the guys in Los Boricuas never stood out (after Savio and Miguel, I kept mixing up the other two)
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 19, 2013 16:01:27 GMT -5
I was a Nation mark before and after The Rock's take over, but Rocky nade me an even bigger fan.
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Post by Throwback on Jan 19, 2013 21:58:17 GMT -5
Hart Foundation and DX. Used to spend many nights in the streets yelling catch phrases and telling people to suck it.
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Lardlad
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Post by Lardlad on Jan 20, 2013 7:50:21 GMT -5
Hart Foundation since it got Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart back on tv.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 10:01:21 GMT -5
Los Boricuas. They had a guy with a really hairy back. Between that and their tendency to pick fights no matter what the odds they were hilarious.
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Post by RedDevil on Jan 20, 2013 10:44:51 GMT -5
The Hart Foundation - that move to bring them together after years of feuding lit a fire in me that I still remember so fondly.
From the moment Bret interrupted Owen vs. Bulldog on Raw, there was something special in that group.
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The Possum
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Post by The Possum on Jan 20, 2013 11:02:50 GMT -5
I loved DX and was okay with DOA. I hated the rest. Truth Commission looked like dweebs, Hart Foundation was the culmination of everything evil, Los Boricuas were kind of all the same to me (plus I thought their leader was a total jobber), couldn't stand The Nation. Team Ahmed for life.
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Post by Dang! on Jan 20, 2013 11:12:11 GMT -5
I like how DOA has 6 votes but nobody has copped to it because of the racial perception. I think the Truth Commission is much worse in that department. They were supposed to be white South African supremacists, right? So, basically Nazi scum...
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Jan 20, 2013 19:40:08 GMT -5
didn't the harris twins actually have SS tattoos?
I thought I remmember hearing colt mention it.
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Post by mjolnir on Jan 20, 2013 19:42:30 GMT -5
The Hart Foundation, soley because of Pillman.
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Post by britishbulldog on Jan 21, 2013 0:05:46 GMT -5
I loved the Foundation, but I enjoyed DOA simply for Crush. I was always a Crush mark. I just realized that DOA had Khona printed on the back of their jackets. Cool note to Crush's past.
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Post by Celgress on Jan 21, 2013 0:09:13 GMT -5
Hart Foundation
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Post by Throwback on Jan 21, 2013 0:45:09 GMT -5
what was that short lived group with Shamrock, Big Show and Foley where they were against the corporation?
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Post by lewis1711 on Jan 21, 2013 2:36:04 GMT -5
What were the racial implications of DOA? I don't remember any racial overtones just them being bikers. White (and in the case of the Harris twins, bald) bikers getting cheered for beating up blacks (Nation) and hispanics (Boricuas). You're going to bitch about racism, and the group you choose to pick on are... the DOA? I don't recall them ever explicitly mentioning race in their promos. As far as I know the nation did that the most. Not that it bothered me, you know, because I'm not hyper sensitive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 2:39:12 GMT -5
didn't the harris twins actually have SS tattoos? I thought I remmember hearing colt mention it. I know they work in TNA as part of the ring crew and one of the Harris brothers was wearing a shirt with a Swastika during an Impact taping when they were setting something up during the tape delay and had to issue a apologize for wearing that shirt. Edit: Also I voted The Hart Foundation since it was my Patriotic duty to cheer for them.
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Post by lewis1711 on Jan 21, 2013 2:50:36 GMT -5
Also I voted The Hart Foundation since it was my Patriotic duty to cheer for them. When I first started wrestling I was in the middle of my childhood obsession with Canada. Then who do I see but some muscle bound dude in a leather jacket carrying a huge canadian flag draped over him, with a nose and haircut that made him seem like a bad ass version of my dad - Owen Hart. I was a mark from that day on.
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Post by cool guy on Jan 21, 2013 2:54:01 GMT -5
Can someone give a naive young fan a rundown of who was in some of these groups. I mean, I know about DX and NoD, but Los Boricuas and the DOA? I've never heard of them prior to this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 8:57:54 GMT -5
Can someone give a naive young fan a rundown of who was in some of these groups. I mean, I know about DX and NoD, but Los Boricuas and the DOA? I've never heard of them prior to this thread. The interesting thing about the two stables is how they were off-shoots of the original Nation Of Domination. When Faarooq fired Savio Vega & Crush, they created their own groups. Los Boricuas were: Savio Vega (assumed leader, formerly in the Nation), The group members featured Miguel Perez Jr. (son of Miguel Perez Sr.), Jose Estrada Jr. (son of WWF jobber Jose Estrada Sr.), and Jesus Castillo. They would wear white Fedoras and matching pants with sleeveless undershirts. The Disciples Of Apocolypse (DOA) were: Crush (leader, formerly in the Nation), Chainz (Brian Lee, once the fake Undertaker), Skull & 8-Ball (The Harris Twins, Bruise Brothers, Grimm Twins, Jacob & Eli Blu, Creative Control in WCW, etc.) DOA would slowly dwindle into just being Skull & 8-Ball as a two-man team, soon to be managed by Paul Ellering - after he turned on the Legion Of Doom. I know too much about two groups I really couldn't care less about. Out of the 8 men, I liked Crush.
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