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Post by mjolnir on Mar 26, 2013 17:52:56 GMT -5
That's because by all accounts he is a giant douchebag.
Hell, I've even seen those that work for him and/or are supposedly his friends slag him pretty seriously.
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Post by hotshotalex on Mar 26, 2013 18:09:36 GMT -5
Well to be fair you would be hard pressed to find a wrestling promoter who isn't a giant douchbag.
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Post by Larryhausen on Mar 26, 2013 18:32:26 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, I'm kinda surprised they didn't match Trent? up with Cage. I know they wanna get the team with Elgin over and Roddy's gimmick in PWG is "The Gatekeeper"(if you look back, almost every major guys debut match since 04 has been with Roddy), but Trent and Cage were in FCW together and I'm sure they've wrestled each other numerous times. Granted, Brian is a LOT bigger now and was more of a high flyer then, but I'm sure those two being that familiar with each other would have led to a better match than what I'm hearing we got.
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Post by mjolnir on Mar 26, 2013 19:53:58 GMT -5
I agree, I think it likely would've worked better, partially for something that occurred to me.
One of the reasons why I'm not a huge fan of Roddy is his style. He wrestles like a bruiser, like a base most of the time when the guy's half the size he needs to be to legitimately be seen as one. Trent(?) has spent the last several years wrestling as a high flyer underdog, a smaller wrestler to the land of jacked boys that is WWE.
He likely would've benefited from the base Strong could not provide and while once upon a time I would've said Claudio would've been perfect for Trent, Cage is definitely the next best thing.
Because unlike Roddy, Cage is a believable and strong base, even for a bigger dude (in comparison to most of the PWG roster) as Trent. I think you give him a stronger base that could realistically toss him around and play off of what he does best right now, and Trent(?) would've had an easier time of it.
I'm not trying to put all of the blame of Roddy either. I might not care for the guy but I realize most can have a serviceable match with him. It was a matter of a few things that were out of everyone's hands, including a styles clash in my opinion.
Which is unfortunate, I like Trent and was hoping he'd succeed here.
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Post by BV on Mar 26, 2013 20:03:10 GMT -5
I love Roddy but I notice and don't like how he basically gets all the new blood first. Swann barely got any offense in his debut match vs. Roddy.
Trent as a heel in PWG would be pretty cool, since heels in Reseda are hard to come by.
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Post by YiHammer on Mar 26, 2013 21:20:14 GMT -5
I agree, I think it likely would've worked better, partially for something that occurred to me. One of the reasons why I'm not a huge fan of Roddy is his style. He wrestles like a bruiser, like a base most of the time when the guy's half the size he needs to be to legitimately be seen as one. Trent(?) has spent the last several years wrestling as a high flyer underdog, a smaller wrestler to the land of jacked boys that is WWE. He likely would've benefited from the base Strong could not provide and while once upon a time I would've said Claudio would've been perfect for Trent, Cage is definitely the next best thing. Because unlike Roddy, Cage is a believable and strong base, even for a bigger dude (in comparison to most of the PWG roster) as Trent. I think you give him a stronger base that could realistically toss him around and play off of what he does best right now, and Trent(?) would've had an easier time of it. I'm not trying to put all of the blame of Roddy either. I might not care for the guy but I realize most can have a serviceable match with him. It was a matter of a few things that were out of everyone's hands, including a styles clash in my opinion. Which is unfortunate, I like Trent and was hoping he'd succeed here. Roddy is plenty strong. As Punk always said, Roddy has freaky retard strength. For being 200 he can throw guys like Elgin around.
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Post by YiHammer on Mar 26, 2013 21:22:02 GMT -5
I love Roddy but I notice and don't like how he basically gets all the new blood first. Swann barely got any offense in his debut match vs. Roddy. Trent as a heel in PWG would be pretty cool, since heels in Reseda are hard to come by. Swann was over with the crowd and is clearly over with SuperDragon He got plenty, sometimes less is more. Roddy is the type of guy that seems good at reigning in really spotty guys to have a more believable match
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Mar 26, 2013 21:34:56 GMT -5
All I want is Trent? to return and have a good match. I know he can have one, I'm just guessing mjolnor's theory is correct.
But all I want is a good Trent? match that gets a good crowd reaction. Is that so hard, PWG gods?
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Post by Starshine on Mar 26, 2013 22:46:53 GMT -5
All I want is Trent? to return and have a good match. I know he can have one, I'm just guessing mjolnor's theory is correct. But all I want is a good Trent? match that gets a good crowd reaction. Is that so hard, PWG gods? I think that's more on Trent than the PWG gods.
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Post by Loser on Mar 27, 2013 12:55:43 GMT -5
Been meaning to ask but has anyone heard anything about Jerome LTP Robinson lately? I thought he was only going to be a short sabbatical/leave a couple or so years ago, and he would eventually get back into it again by now but I haven't heard anything. I used to really enjoy his work He was wrestling in California as recently as last year. Always liked his moveset, some stuff he did I've yet to see others do. But also rather botchy.
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Post by YiHammer on Mar 28, 2013 0:09:22 GMT -5
None of us have even seen Trent's matches
Lets just calm down
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Post by Larryhausen on Mar 28, 2013 3:43:27 GMT -5
None of us have even seen Trent's matches Lets just calm down I'm just going by what I saw on the preview, and what triplethreatmark and KevFalcon said, since they were there, and, hence, HAVE seen his match. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Trent and I'd like to see more of the guy, which is why I hope they give him another shot, preferably against Cage. But, knowing how PWG and Dragon can be, that doesn't seem likely. That being said, it's well known here how I feel about Guerilla favoring fly in talent over local these days, but I'd like to ask: what other huge Indy names are left that haven't wrestled in (Beautious!!!!) Reseda, California? As of now, the only name I can think of is ACH. And maybe, MAAAAAYBE, Robert Evans. EDIT~ I should also add Ultramantis Black, but I've given up all hope of him ever trying to make a name for himself outside of Chikara. But I wish I was wrong.
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Post by mjolnir on Mar 28, 2013 8:31:55 GMT -5
Well, there's a reason for Mantis never straying too far from CHIKARA. Though it would be surreal to see him in PWG. Especially if they flew in 'Wicked and Fright with him, and they booked a trios match for them. Imagining him leading his troops into Reseda would feel so odd, like some major cross-over or something.
He might not be the traditional style of PWG wrestler but I think Evans could actually fill the void Tornado left when he retired.
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Post by Steveweiser on Mar 28, 2013 8:40:14 GMT -5
The main reason I'd want Mantis in PWG is so he can do commentary with Excalibur.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 28, 2013 15:14:12 GMT -5
The main reason I'd want Mantis in PWG is so he can do commentary with Excalibur. I wouldn't want that. Mantis rambles, and his voice gets annoying pretty quickly. Plus it would mean I'd hear a lot less Excalibur too. That's a bad thing.
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Post by Larryhausen on Mar 28, 2013 15:24:52 GMT -5
The main reason I'd want Mantis in PWG is so he can do commentary with Excalibur. I wouldn't want that. Mantis rambles, and his voice gets annoying pretty quickly. Plus it would mean I'd hear a lot less Excalibur too. That's a bad thing. HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH THE NAME OF OUR EVIL INSECT OVERLORD!?!?!?!? Nahhhh, all seriousness, it would be nice to hear for a match or too, but I can see where you would disagree. Anyway, I watched Mystery Vortex last night. I must say, that Generico-Rich Swann match might be my least favorite Generico match that I've ever seen. Edit: typed Ricochet instead of Rich Swann.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Mar 28, 2013 15:46:16 GMT -5
I wouldn't want that. Mantis rambles, and his voice gets annoying pretty quickly. Plus it would mean I'd hear a lot less Excalibur too. That's a bad thing. HOW DARE YOU BESMIRCH THE NAME OF OUR EVIL INSECT OVERLORD!?!?!?!? Nahhhh, all seriousness, it would be nice to hear for a match or too, but I can see where you would disagree. Anyway, I watched Mystery Vortex last night. I must say, that Generico-Rich Swann match might be my least favorite Generico match that I've ever seen. Edit: typed Ricochet instead of Rich Swann. Really? Why so?
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Post by Larryhausen on Mar 28, 2013 15:50:21 GMT -5
I hate to use the term spot monkey, but it just seemed like every single movement Swann pulled off was done just to get to a flip. I don't know, just didn't like the match, and Swann just seems like a lesser version of Ricochet to me. Maybe those two teaming up will rub off on Swann.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Mar 28, 2013 17:17:46 GMT -5
The main reason I'd want Mantis in PWG is so he can do commentary with Excalibur. I wouldn't want that. Mantis rambles, and his voice gets annoying pretty quickly. Plus it would mean I'd hear a lot less Excalibur too. That's a bad thing. they've already done commentary together. it was awesome.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Mar 28, 2013 17:28:19 GMT -5
I hate to use the term spot monkey, but it just seemed like every single movement Swann pulled off was done just to get to a flip. I don't know, just didn't like the match, and Swann just seems like a lesser version of Ricochet to me. Maybe those two teaming up will rub off on Swann. Eh, I guess, but when it comes to wrestling of the flippy variety, I just enjoy it for what it is really. And I say that not to downplay what it takes to wrestle that style or what that style brings to a match.
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