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Post by Henry Mark on Jan 20, 2013 0:46:09 GMT -5
No love at all for Big Show?
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Jan 20, 2013 1:01:43 GMT -5
No Saba Simba? Never before has the phrase "great minds think alike" seemed more inappropriate but I'm using it anyway!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 1:46:14 GMT -5
Comparing the two, I don't think it was that Edge's spear was so bad so much as it was Goldberg's was so good. Him being a former defensive tackle helped. Whereas Goldberg was strong enough to drive guys down, Edge's depended on how his opponents reacted. So we want moves that look like they really, really hurt! But if you hurt somebody doing it, you are a bad wrestler and a bad guy! Funny enough, since he's been mentioned throughout the thread, Rhyno, according to Raven, is supposed to be very light to work with. Raven said that his moves looked devastating but where as safe as can be.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 20, 2013 2:17:29 GMT -5
It's always been Goldberg. No one did them with as much force. The way Goldberg did it, it really looked like it could break you in half.
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Post by mjolnir on Jan 20, 2013 2:22:19 GMT -5
Goldberg, with Rhyno as a honorable mentions.
Edge is by far the worst, and it just got gradually worse as his neck degenerated over the years.
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Post by mystikz on Jan 20, 2013 2:25:44 GMT -5
Skip Sheffield.
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Post by Danimal on Jan 20, 2013 3:26:44 GMT -5
Berg with Rhyno neck-and-neck. Edge doesn't compare
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 20, 2013 3:29:48 GMT -5
No love at all for Big Show? Good call. Why do we always overlook it? I'm guilty. It looks devastating, like a car crash, but the receiver is the pedestrian. Batista had a good one too. I'd put these them in my top five. Ok, now we're gettin really geeky. Top 5 spears- 1. Rhyno 2. Goldberg 3. Big Show 4. Batista 5. Edge
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Post by Talent Name on Jan 20, 2013 11:23:46 GMT -5
Big Shows just looked devastating because it was 500lb man running straight at you, that is why it look so effective it was his size that really helped him
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Post by BigWill on Jan 20, 2013 11:28:39 GMT -5
The problem with Big Show's spear is that it always looks like he's holding back(for good reason though). The great thing about Goldberg and Rhyno's spear was that it actually looked like it could seriously injure someone.
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Post by Mac on Jan 20, 2013 11:52:22 GMT -5
Goldberg, he really made the move and everybody else kinda followed suit. His looked devastating. I really thought when I saw edges name here it was a joke vote. His spear was pathetic and at times embarrassing to watch. I'm surprised he kept doing it really.
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Post by Spearmint* on Jan 20, 2013 11:55:36 GMT -5
Edge really? We all hated it here a few years ago. We called it the running hug. This. Rhyno for me. So "Other"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 11:56:21 GMT -5
Edge had the worst Spear I have probably ever seen. On another forum they were calling it the "Hug of Death", and it looked about as devastating as that nickname sounds.
Goldberg made the Spear popular in mainstream wrestling (at least in the late-90's onwards), so no one can touch him there.
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Post by percymania on Jan 20, 2013 12:04:26 GMT -5
The pest part of Goldberg's spear is that while it looked devastating, it was just the setup move to his finisher, and not his actual finisher. The excitement level would raise every time he hit it because everyone knew the Jackhammer was next.
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Post by B'Cup x on Jan 20, 2013 12:05:20 GMT -5
So we want moves that look like they really, really hurt! But if you hurt somebody doing it, you are a bad wrestler and a bad guy! Is this a complaint? because thats kind of the point of wrestling, making it look like youre killing each other whilst protecting them as much as possible. That is exactly what makes a great wrestler. My vote on this subject goes to Rhyno x
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 20, 2013 14:12:33 GMT -5
So we want moves that look like they really, really hurt! But if you hurt somebody doing it, you are a bad wrestler and a bad guy! Is this a complaint? because thats kind of the point of wrestling, making it look like youre killing each other whilst protecting them as much as possible. That is exactly what makes a great wrestler. But Goldberg wasn't protecting anybody at all. But apparently that's okay in this instance because it looked cool.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 20, 2013 14:49:42 GMT -5
Comparing the two, I don't think it was that Edge's spear was so bad so much as it was Goldberg's was so good. Him being a former defensive tackle helped. Whereas Goldberg was strong enough to drive guys down, Edge's depended on how his opponents reacted. I would also say it's a bit of hypocrisy on the part of internet fans. As DDP, Bret Hart, and many others have attested to, Goldberg would just full force mow you down in a tackle in a reckless style. But to internet fans, recklessness (not taking proper care of your opponent) is seen as a huge sin. So we want moves that look like they really, really hurt! But if you hurt somebody doing it, you are a bad wrestler and a bad guy! I can't think of anyone who got injured by Goldbergs spear.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 20, 2013 15:04:54 GMT -5
I would also say it's a bit of hypocrisy on the part of internet fans. As DDP, Bret Hart, and many others have attested to, Goldberg would just full force mow you down in a tackle in a reckless style. But to internet fans, recklessness (not taking proper care of your opponent) is seen as a huge sin. So we want moves that look like they really, really hurt! But if you hurt somebody doing it, you are a bad wrestler and a bad guy! I can't think of anyone who got injured by Goldbergs spear. It's not about "oh, he broke so and so's neck", although DDP says Goldberg cracked Big Show's sternum in WCW, but more about the fact that I mean he was CLEARLY just mowing guys down. Bret Hart talks about in his book about how after the infamous mule kick at Starrcade "I got up anyway, just in time for Goldberg to spear-tackle me like someone running me over with a car". botchamania.com/botchamania-208/DDP talks about it at 10:35
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 20, 2013 15:11:21 GMT -5
I can't think of anyone who got injured by Goldbergs spear. It's not about "oh, he broke so and so's neck", although DDP says Goldberg cracked Big Show's sternum in WCW, but more about the fact that I mean he was CLEARLY just mowing guys down. Bret Hart talks about in his book about how after the infamous mule kick at Starrcade "I got up anyway, just in time for Goldberg to spear-tackle me like someone running me over with a car". botchamania.com/botchamania-208/DDP talks about it at 10:35 So what if he was mowing them down? They're big boys. Trust me I hate overtly stiff wrestlers too but when your move has only 1 confirmed injury I'd say it's okay to put some oomph into.
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Post by Talent Name on Jan 20, 2013 15:30:19 GMT -5
I think the move really depends on who is selling it, some sell it like death others sell it like its a flying hug, I remember someone said that about Bo Dallas and his spear yet people are now saying they love it
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