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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 2:19:46 GMT -5
Even if I were on the other side of it, I'd atill say it's a fair decision. Roleclaiming is a cheap, unfair town tactic that there's no way for the Mafia to combat. That's what's unfair. I mean... if that were allowed, what's stopping everyone in the town from claiming?
If you let that fly, the Mafia is completely cutown at the knees.
So it might not be popular, but it was a fair decision. Like... it wouldn't have been a cheap win for you guys if Bitw was going to vote for AH, and then changed when he claimed from his PM? And if Mason had allowed that?
Like... I know BItW says he as going to vote for me anyway, and I believe him. But there's no way to absolutely prove it.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Jan 20, 2013 2:19:50 GMT -5
Nah, if you're that set on it I can wait till afterward. It'll give me some time to fine-tune things for mine as well.
And yeah, Roleclaiming pretty much sunk my first game. I suppose it was my fault for hinting so much at all of the characters and writing scenes for all the stuff that happened, roleblocks, protections and such included.
But like I said I've learned alot from that game and my second go-around will hopefully end up much more smooth.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 20, 2013 2:20:28 GMT -5
Well that answers that. I look forward to said larger game, Mason. As for this game the one thing I'm most surprised with is that I actually pegged Zack on day one as the doctor. Honestly that was nothing more than a hunch. As for my first run as Godfather it was definitely an experience. Lots of responsibility with everybody relying on you to keep things running. Though I couldn't have done it without Notorious. Just like in the last game he and I were pretty much keeping that whole ship afloat. My downfall was playing a bit too under the radar. Something I'll take into consideration for my next Mafia stint for certain. Yes, I would love to as that game has been ready for months now. I have just been waiting to run it. I mean, if you really want to, you could. It should be up to the people, and see who would rather want it first maybe. I think you should run Batman first I mean you have been waiting a long time and I started DBZ: Abridged Mafia shortly after WWF 88 Mafia ended so we are in the same boat.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 2:22:52 GMT -5
Well that answers that. I look forward to said larger game, Mason. As for this game the one thing I'm most surprised with is that I actually pegged Zack on day one as the doctor. Honestly that was nothing more than a hunch. As for my first run as Godfather it was definitely an experience. Lots of responsibility with everybody relying on you to keep things running. Though I couldn't have done it without Notorious. Just like in the last game he and I were pretty much keeping that whole ship afloat. My downfall was playing a bit too under the radar. Something I'll take into consideration for my next Mafia stint for certain. I think the evidence shows that if you put us together on a team, it's going to be a success.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jan 20, 2013 2:25:47 GMT -5
Man.
That ending.
I had so much trouble keeping this and the DBZ game separated in my head, it cost me SO much.
I wasn't able to commit fully to this game, and then when I tried to jump in and run with it as it got more and more interesting, I really confused my fellow players.
Although, I knew Notorious was Mafia early on -- just a hunch I had to investigate him right away, since he's a really good player and I knew he'd vote for his scum partners without blinking an eye. And he was scum. And then I couldn't figure out if I should reveal it or not.
And I wasn't going to reveal it at first -- I wanted to figure out who else was scum. But then I got paranoid that you guys were going to go after me, so I protected myself... and that was for naught. So by the time I went hard at Notorious I had no evidence that the rest of the town could see (the only thing I had was my PM telling me he was scum). So I had nothing to build a case off of.
My last post asking Brad to use his ability on Notorious is what I wish happened, and when I was killed and saw how he was able to steer everyone I was disappointed. Knew the game was over.
I for sure thought BITW would drop the hammer on Artificial Human to end the game too.
Great game. Wish I wouldn't have confused you all with Produceman... but if Produce WAS this games serial killer, I think I had a good argument! Haha.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 20, 2013 2:29:45 GMT -5
Honestly the last night phase when I used my ability I left it up to chance
Ritt, AH & Notorious I had no clue who was mafia so I put those names in a hat and drew one out and whatever name I drew was who was getting skitzo'd and just my luck I drew Ritt's name if only I had drawn Notorious's name things would of been different.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 2:41:30 GMT -5
Man. That ending. I had so much trouble keeping this and the DBZ game separated in my head, it cost me SO much. I wasn't able to commit fully to this game, and then when I tried to jump in and run with it as it got more and more interesting, I really confused my fellow players. Although, I knew Notorious was Mafia early on -- just a hunch I had to investigate him right away, since he's a really good player and I knew he'd vote for his scum partners without blinking an eye. And he was scum. And then I couldn't figure out if I should reveal it or not. And I wasn't going to reveal it at first -- I wanted to figure out who else was scum. But then I got paranoid that you guys were going to go after me, so I protected myself... and that was for naught. So by the time I went hard at Notorious I had no evidence that the rest of the town could see (the only thing I had was my PM telling me he was scum). So I had nothing to build a case off of. My last post asking Brad to use his ability on Notorious is what I wish happened, and when I was killed and saw how he was able to steer everyone I was disappointed. Knew the game was over. I for sure thought BITW would drop the hammer on Artificial Human to end the game too. Great game. Wish I wouldn't have confused you all with Produceman... but if Produce WAS this games serial killer, I think I had a good argument! Haha. Hahaha man. I thought I was crazy at one point. I had a legitimate argument for you to be Mafia, and you were defending a mafia member and making absolutely no sense, and people were totally buying it! If you hadn't said you confused the games, they probably would have still voted to lynch me! I thought I was screwed for sure, but somehow I kept avoiding the lynch and skitzo, and tricked people enough to somehow make it to the end. It's basically a miracle. High fives to you though. You went after me so hard
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Jan 20, 2013 2:50:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I think you were able to lead everyone, and if I didn't investigate you early on, I probably would have been led by you as well.
And trust me, the response to Produce not being a serial killer totally stopped me in my tracks. I for sure figured this game out, and then for it to be based off the other game... I wasn't sure which way was up or which was down anymore!
I went back, and you didn't do anything particularly scummy, so I couldn't pin anything to you.
Plus, you guys did have good arguments for me to be mafia. REALLY good arguments, and I had to figure out how do I fish out the other scum but at the same time defend myself.
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Post by Triple H buried SnS on Jan 20, 2013 3:30:01 GMT -5
My issue is with the rule... where's the line? Chad Ghostal. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie cause I'm space ghosts evil twin. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie who happens to be Space Ghost's evil twin. --- what ah retyped up Chad Ghostal (Vanilla Townie Who Happens to Be Space Ghost’s Evil Twin)-Town Aligned --- what a copy of the line from the original pm was
What is acceptable? What would get you mod killed? What if he was mafia and it was verbatim except change town to mafia? Would that be ok or a mod kill?
Ie my role was
You are sns - mafia goon who hates the show but watches anyway.
But I post
You are sns - vanilla townie who hates the show but watches anyway.
Would I be mod killed?
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Jan 20, 2013 4:07:34 GMT -5
My issue is with the rule... where's the line? Chad Ghostal. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie cause I'm space ghosts evil twin. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie who happens to be Space Ghost's evil twin. Chad Ghostal (Vanilla Townie Who Happens to Be Space Ghost’s Evil Twin)-Town Aligned What is acceptable? What would get you mod killed? What if he was mafia and it was verbatim except change town to mafia? Would that be ok or a mod kill? Ie my role was You are sns - mafia goon who hates the show but watches anyway. But I post You are sns - vanilla townie who hates the show but watches anyway. Would I be mod killed? While it would be nice to get a firm rule that all mods must adopt, I think it will likely be left to each individual mod's discretion. I admit that it feels like a kinda cheap way to win but it is what it is. As for my gameplay, I really feel I was trying WAY too hard to throw suspicion on other people. That and overreacting when I'm suspected as mafia. I not only did it in DBZ and this mafia game, but in Music Mafia 1.5 as well and that led to my power role being ineffective. I was beginning to get frustrated because everyone sees me as scummy straight away no matter what role I get. However, that's my fault due to my gameplay. I need to change it up.
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Post by RKTaker on Jan 20, 2013 8:41:27 GMT -5
I also stayed way to much under the radar not a good game for me
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Post by MasonK565 on Jan 20, 2013 12:53:43 GMT -5
My issue is with the rule... where's the line? Chad Ghostal. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie cause I'm space ghosts evil twin. Chad Ghostal. Vanilla townie who happens to be Space Ghost's evil twin. Chad Ghostal (Vanilla Townie Who Happens to Be Space Ghost’s Evil Twin)-Town Aligned What is acceptable? What would get you mod killed? What if he was mafia and it was verbatim except change town to mafia? Would that be ok or a mod kill? Ie my role was You are sns - mafia goon who hates the show but watches anyway. But I post You are sns - vanilla townie who hates the show but watches anyway. Would I be mod killed? While you do make some good points, this obviously creates a need for us to create a unifying rule on what is considered revealing a pm. I am standing with rule that he is disqualified as he copied, word for word, who he was and what his role was. Now if he said it in his own words, that would be okay. But he specifically quoted my PM to him. In my opinion, all but the last two would be acceptable. The last two cement the proof that he was copying from my PM directly. The first two, while identical, are not enough to show he is copying my PM, while the third one uses his own words. So the first three are okay, in my honest opinion. And on the mafia/town switch, I will need to think about that. That is a good point.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 20, 2013 14:56:26 GMT -5
Well its your decision and I respect that.
I'll be honest I'm not a big fan of it but I accept it it was a great game overall I mean day 2, 3, & 4 we lynched a mafia member and day 5 another mafia member would of been lynched had AH not broke the rules.
Has that ever happen before? Even though its an official mafia win in my mind and maybe in my mind only this was a win for the town! Like I say its an official mafia win but still to me with everything that happen in the game I count it as a win for the town you can all consider this a mafia win but not me.
and I got to say after that DQ that costs us the game I'm fired up for another mafia game I hope SnS starts the sign up topic for the Star Wars Mafia soon so I can join it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 15:12:05 GMT -5
It's a good thing the game is played on FAN forums, and not in Brad's mind then I guess. Since you know.... wins in your mind don't matter.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 20, 2013 15:19:30 GMT -5
Well you don't have to insult me you know!
I think by saying something in my mind doesn't matter is pretty insulting to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 15:25:57 GMT -5
Well you don't have to insult me you know! I think by saying something in my mind doesn't matter is pretty insulting to me. I'm saying wins don't matter in aybody's mind. It's the physical result that goes in the record book. Like if the Patriots lose today, but think they got screwed and should have won... they still lost. You know? You can think whatever you want, but opinion and fact are different things. Don't get offended by that. It's not an insult silly goose.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 20, 2013 15:40:57 GMT -5
Sorry I guess I misunderstood no hard feelings
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 15:45:08 GMT -5
Sorry I guess I misunderstood no hard feelings Yeah absolutely. We won a few of these games together. You're my dude.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jan 20, 2013 15:51:23 GMT -5
I think it's a mafia win and can live with that. I thought about admitting my role before night phase because at that point I figured only the godfather was left if we messed up the lynch. I thought it would have offered Kami some safety I never thought I'd get skitzo killed. Then I started looking at the votes and thought there may be an usurper, so I mentioned that to scare the mafia a little if there were four totoal. I was wrong but well that's the way it goes.
I wanted to put a little of the spotlight on myself at the beginning because mafia like to keep controversial figures around, but I think I almost did it too well. I was afraid you guys were going to string me up day one. So my first night I got roleblocked. The next night I investigated Taker. Got one! So i voted for him asap in case the case for me picked up again you guys would know who to lynch. Third night I investigated Double H. Next night was AH but I didn't surivive. So out of four tries I got one investigation through. But at least it counted.
As for the insults. That was tough for me. I have two modes. Nice guy and Obscene cruel asshole. I didn't want to break the rules so I tried to make the insults comedic. No offense anyone, I loved you all. Great game.
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Post by Big Bad Brad on Jan 20, 2013 16:06:15 GMT -5
Here is something interesting
I figured out Ritt was the cop AFTER I had him skitzo'd and Mason told me he drew kill for my ability Mason never told he was the cop.
Here is the thing I knew BitW was town because he was very instrumental in lynching 3 mafia members.
I never thought it through much so I put Ritt, AH, Notorious and just for laughs myself (I was allowed to skitzo myself) to see who would get skitzo'd I drew Ritt's name out of the hat so he was my victim.
Now after I got a PM from Mason telling me it was a kill and he was waiting on one more role it came to me.
I said to myself I'll bet Ritt is the cop I mean Ritt put his vote on RKTaker before anybody else I said that was either mafia voting mafia to take the focus off him if Taker got lynched OR he was the cop who investigated Taker.
I sent Mason a PM with my predictions of who the mafia was I told him not to tell me if I was right or not because I wanted to be surprised
Here was my predictions that I sent Mason word for word
My official predictions
Ritt - Town Cop (which would explain his vote on RKTaker before anybody else) AH - Mafia Goon BitW - Vanilla Townie Notorious - Vanilla Townie
The only thing I got wrong was AH as the mafia goon so if I was left alive and BitW was killed I would of probably voted AH to be lynched had he not posted his role PM. Also I wasn't 100% sure on AH being mafia it was more a 50/50 type deal.
Now if I had took a second to think about that before hand I wouldn't of put Ritt's name in the hat just Notorious, AH & my own and see what the result would of been.
The reason for me putting myself in the hat would be hoping for a Protection in case I was killed.
btw Mason any chance you could post all the night actions that happen in the game like I did in WWF 88 mafia and Garfield Mafia?
I'd like to see what everybody did each night phase.
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