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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 8:57:38 GMT -5
See, I'm wildly conflicted. Considering the Ravens knocked my team out of the playoffs and considering they have a (wildly likely) murderer and (incredibly possible) PED users on their active roster, I should despise them. . Every team in the league consists of likely PED users, it's not limited to Baltimore. If guys are 6'4" 250+ can lift a tank and are running 4.4 40s they're probably not getting there with just hard work and genetics. So virtually everyone in the league is on something IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 10:09:43 GMT -5
Interesting hearing the sports punditry at work. Colin Kaepernick is getting a lot of attention but his last two victories came against teams that can't play defense to save their lives. I think he's a good quarterback but the Ravens' defense has played well so far. We made Tom Brady's and Peyton Manning's passing games look paltry at best. Is a guy with passing skills such as his will have a very difficult time making in-roads on them.
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Post by Hugh Mungus on Jan 21, 2013 10:23:37 GMT -5
I am a man of my word. The Bills avatar I promised is up, Unocal76 LOL at your avatar.
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Post by MGH on Jan 21, 2013 10:25:27 GMT -5
I am a man of my word. The Bills avatar I promised is up, Unocal76 LOL at your avatar. Oh my goodness, I didn't even notice that. *applause*
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 10:37:37 GMT -5
On ESPN, Rob Gronkowski is apparently why Tom Brady had a bad game. Despite having Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Aaron Hernandez who can all make plays and the very passable Deion Branch. Despite having a strong offensive line that does an excellent job at protecting him and letting him throw as he pleases.
The guy is going to be 36 later this year. He's been playing the game for a long time and his stats are starting to weaken. He's not the player that he used to be. He will never be that player again. New England needs to seriously consider getting a new Quarterback. Maybe not this season, but soon. Their team is based around a QB and talented QBs are never in short supply. Oh sure, there were a few receiver drops. But that happens to every team. That doesn't excuse that kind of play. But they need a younger guy.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2013 10:38:40 GMT -5
Oh my goodness, I didn't even notice that. *applause* *bows* I had this planned the second that wager was made.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2013 10:42:12 GMT -5
On ESPN, Rob Gronkowski is apparently why Tom Brady had a bad game. Despite having Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Aaron Hernandez who can all make plays and the very passable Deion Branch. Despite having a strong offensive line that does an excellent job at protecting him and letting him throw as he pleases. The guy is going to be 36 later this year. He's been playing the game for a long time and his stats are starting to weaken. He's not the player that he used to be. He will never be that player again. New England needs to seriously consider getting a new Quarterback. Maybe not this season, but soon. Their team is based around a QB and talented QBs are never in short supply. Oh sure, there were a few receiver drops. But that happens to every team. That doesn't excuse that kind of play. But they need a younger guy. I agree that they should draft their future QB (assuming they dont think it's Ryan Mallet. And you're not wrong, Brady isnt what he was and he is getting older. That said, his stats this year were really good and he was in the MVP discussion. My point being, Id still take soon to be 36 year old Brady over 95% of NFL QB's
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jan 21, 2013 10:45:47 GMT -5
Brady is just fine. If it were a straight-up swap, the only reason I'd keep Eli over him is because Eli is younger. Wh cantESPN get over themselves and admit that the Ravens played damn good defensively?
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 21, 2013 10:48:12 GMT -5
Brady is just fine. If it were a straight-up swap, the only reason I'd keep Eli over him is because Eli is younger. Wh cantESPN get over themselves and admit that the Ravens played damn good defensively? It's more fun to talk about a team failing than a team dominating. That, and the poor play from the Pats is more shocking and newsworthy than a traditionally good defense shutting them down.
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Post by MGH on Jan 21, 2013 10:54:51 GMT -5
Brady is just fine. If it were a straight-up swap, the only reason I'd keep Eli over him is because Eli is younger. Wh cantESPN get over themselves and admit that the Ravens played damn good defensively? It's more fun to talk about a team failing than a team dominating Which unfortunately is a problem with ESPN and I guess sports talk in general. Going by their network I don't believe a team has actually done what they needed to do and won a game in 15 years. The other team always crapped the bed and cost themselves a chance to win ... in which case the other team would have been at fault for the loss and given little credit for the win.
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Post by Mike Wooster on Jan 21, 2013 10:55:53 GMT -5
On ESPN, Rob Gronkowski is apparently why Tom Brady had a bad game. Despite having Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Aaron Hernandez who can all make plays and the very passable Deion Branch. Despite having a strong offensive line that does an excellent job at protecting him and letting him throw as he pleases. The guy is going to be 36 later this year. He's been playing the game for a long time and his stats are starting to weaken. He's not the player that he used to be. He will never be that player again. New England needs to seriously consider getting a new Quarterback. Maybe not this season, but soon. Their team is based around a QB and talented QBs are never in short supply. Oh sure, there were a few receiver drops. But that happens to every team. That doesn't excuse that kind of play. But they need a younger guy. 90% of the NFL would trade their collective left nut to have Tom Brady as their quarterback next season. As for the ESPN making excuses for Brady, that certainly wasn't happening on their radio programming.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 10:56:25 GMT -5
On ESPN, Rob Gronkowski is apparently why Tom Brady had a bad game. Despite having Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Aaron Hernandez who can all make plays and the very passable Deion Branch. Despite having a strong offensive line that does an excellent job at protecting him and letting him throw as he pleases. The guy is going to be 36 later this year. He's been playing the game for a long time and his stats are starting to weaken. He's not the player that he used to be. He will never be that player again. New England needs to seriously consider getting a new Quarterback. Maybe not this season, but soon. Their team is based around a QB and talented QBs are never in short supply. Oh sure, there were a few receiver drops. But that happens to every team. That doesn't excuse that kind of play. But they need a younger guy. I agree that they should draft their future QB (assuming they dont think it's Ryan Mallet. And you're not wrong, Brady isnt what he was and he is getting older. That said, his stats this year were really good and he was in the MVP discussion. My point being, Id still take soon to be 36 year old Brady over 95% of NFL QB's His stats are still great but they're going down. Not counting the season where he went out in the first game, here they are: 2007: 117.2 2009: 96.2 2010: 111.0 2011: 105.6 2012: 98.7 Clearly he's still viable but with the money he makes, how much longer is he going to be worth it? He's demonstrated that under pressure he has serious problems with his play. I thought the Ravens were going to lose because of the inconsistent secondary but they still managed to make him look wretched. Brady just doesn't have the hunger or the drive to lead a team and he's become overly reliant on his corps of receivers to make the big plays for him. As much blame as Wes Welker gets for that drop, he played great all game, and he wasn't the one who threw those lategame interceptions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 11:00:35 GMT -5
On ESPN, Rob Gronkowski is apparently why Tom Brady had a bad game. Despite having Wes Welker, Brandon Lloyd, Aaron Hernandez who can all make plays and the very passable Deion Branch. Despite having a strong offensive line that does an excellent job at protecting him and letting him throw as he pleases. The guy is going to be 36 later this year. He's been playing the game for a long time and his stats are starting to weaken. He's not the player that he used to be. He will never be that player again. New England needs to seriously consider getting a new Quarterback. Maybe not this season, but soon. Their team is based around a QB and talented QBs are never in short supply. Oh sure, there were a few receiver drops. But that happens to every team. That doesn't excuse that kind of play. But they need a younger guy. 90% of the NFL would trade their collective left nut to have Tom Brady as their quarterback next season. As for the ESPN making excuses for Brady, that certainly wasn't happening on their radio programming. Maybe they would but how much of that is him? The usual defense of Brady was how well he played ten years ago when his receivers were trash. His recievers right now are way better but he's not much better now than he was then. Which is exactly the problem. Saying Brady is still what he was ten years ago because of how he played ten years ago would be akin to me saying that Ray Lewis is still a dominant linebacker because of what he did in that same span of time. In team sports, ten years is a long time. A lot changes. And no quarterback can have static numbers over a 13 or 15-year span.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jan 21, 2013 11:00:41 GMT -5
I couldn't care less about the game as I hate both coaches, QBs and teams but I want Ray Lewis crying in disappointment well the Niners are running on the field after winning.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 11:17:15 GMT -5
I am a man of my word. The Bills avatar I promised is up, Unocal76 Too much in the center. Might wanna move it a little to the right.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 21, 2013 11:41:49 GMT -5
I am a man of my word. The Bills avatar I promised is up, Unocal76 Too much in the center. Might wanna move it a little to the right. ;D
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 21, 2013 12:32:32 GMT -5
I am a man of my word. The Bills avatar I promised is up, Unocal76 Too much in the center. Might wanna move it a little to the right. Ouch.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 21, 2013 12:46:06 GMT -5
so the NFL is discussing an alternative to changing the Rooney Rule. As some have discussed here, one idea is to apply the Rooney Rule to coordinator positions. The other thing being discussed is not allowing teams to block position coaches from leaving if offered a coordinator position. For those that don't know, an NFL team can deny an assistant from leaving for a promotion unless it's to be a head coach. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were famous for doing this (and is a huge reason why a lot of teams refused to let them talk to assistants last year) and other teams like the Packers have unwritten rules that state if an assistant gets a chance to be a head coach they are not allowed to take any Green Bay assistants with them even if given the chance to be an OC or DC.
Now changing that rule could help out a lot with diversity. I know there are a lot of minority position coaches out there that teams always want to interview for coordinator positions (Todd Bowles before accepting the Arizona position this offseason, Darren Perry, Winston Moss, Pepper Johnson) but their organizations block them.
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Post by BearDogg-X on Jan 21, 2013 13:17:08 GMT -5
Even though nobody cares about the Pro Bowl, here are the replacements for the players that are going to the Super Bowl and other injury replacements:
Replacing 49ers players:
Buccaneers RB Doug Martin replaces Frank Gore Saints T Jermon Bushrod replaces Joe Staley Redskins LB Ryan Kerrigan replaces Aldon Smith Redskins LB London Fletcher replaces Patrick Willis Lions DT Ndamukong Suh replaces Justin Smith Packers G Mike Sitton replaces Mike Iupati Cardinals LB Daryl Washington replaces NaVorro Bowman Falcons S Thomas DeCoud replaces Donte Whitner Falcons S William Moore replaces Dashon Goldson
Replacing Ravens players:
Raiders FB Marcel Reece replaces Vonta Leach Browns KR Josh Cribbs replaces Jacoby Jones Dolphins G Richie Incognito replaces Marshal Yanda Bills RB CJ Spiller replaces Ray Rice Bills DT Kyle Williams replaces Haloti Ngata Bills S Jairus Byrd replaces Ed Reed
Other injury replacements:
Texans TE Owen Daniels replaces Patriots TE Rob Gronkowski Giants QB Eli Manning replaces Packers QB Aaron Rodgers Vikings LB Chad Greenway replaces Cowboys LB DeMarcus Ware Cowboys LB Anthony Spencer replaces Packers LB Clay Matthews Bengals T Andrew Whitworth replaces Broncos T Ryan Clady Bengals TE Jermaine Gresham replaces Steelers TE Heath Miller Saints QB Drew Brees replaces Redskins QB Robert Griffin III Buccaneers WR Vincent Jackson replaces Lions WR Calvin Johnson Seahawks QB Russell Wilson replaces Falcons QB Matt Ryan Broncos WR Demaryius Thomas replaces Patriots WR Wes Welker Broncos G Zane Beadles replaces Patriots G Logan Mankins Colts QB Andrew Luck replaces Patriots QB Tom Brady Dolphins DT Randy Starks replaces Patriots DT Vince Wilfork
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 21, 2013 13:21:47 GMT -5
Lions DT Ndamukong Suh replaces Justin Smith The NFC, now with 110% more nut kicking power
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