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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jan 21, 2013 15:45:04 GMT -5
Based on when they were actually signed and all.
I dont recall when Taker was actually signed and when made his debut at survivor series
I've never heard of Mankind's stint down there.
Stone Cold either.
Its not like they were instant stars.
Who else didn't have a stint there?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 21, 2013 15:46:51 GMT -5
Based on when they were actually signed and all. I dont recall when Taker was actually signed and when made his debut at survivor series I've never heard of Mankind's stint down there. Stone Cold either. Its not like they were instant stars. Who else didn't have a stint there? I didn't even know developmental existed during that time. I thought it was just a concept that WWE created upon the demise of WCW and ECW, since there were no other big companies that could've already done the heavy lifting in terms of getting wrestlers ready for TV.
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Post by Error on Jan 21, 2013 15:54:15 GMT -5
Based on when they were actually signed and all. I dont recall when Taker was actually signed and when made his debut at survivor series I've never heard of Mankind's stint down there. Stone Cold either. Its not like they were instant stars. Who else didn't have a stint there? I didn't even know developmental existed during that time. I thought it was just a concept that WWE created upon the demise of WCW and ECW, since there were no other big companies that could've already done the heavy lifting in terms of getting wrestlers ready for TV. It didn't exist then. The earliest they had something was 97-98ish when they'd bring in Dory Funk to run a 2 or 3 week seminar for guys they were looking to sign or had signed to take part in. Maybe you could count ECW since they sent Snow there. First real developmental territory was either PPW or HWA in 98.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 15:54:27 GMT -5
Based on when they were actually signed and all. I dont recall when Taker was actually signed and when made his debut at survivor series I've never heard of Mankind's stint down there. Stone Cold either. Its not like they were instant stars. Who else didn't have a stint there? I didn't even know developmental existed during that time. I thought it was just a concept that WWE created upon the demise of WCW and ECW, since there were no other big companies that could've already done the heavy lifting in terms of getting wrestlers ready for TV. Pretty much, back in the 90s Developmental were the territories/Japan/Mexico/Europe/ECW
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 21, 2013 15:54:57 GMT -5
Did Vince or Shane ever do anything before they wrestled?
Or did they just train behind the scenes.
I'm imagining Vince training to fight Austin by wearing a Lucha Mask and being Toronjas Cojones in the indies.
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Post by sweatpants on Jan 21, 2013 15:56:26 GMT -5
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 21, 2013 15:58:35 GMT -5
If you're talking recent, I believe Sin Cara bypassed developmental.
Seem to recall hearing Bryan had the option of bypassing it, but chose to do a stint in developmental because he didn't want to be seen as better than anybody.
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Post by BiloxiParish on Jan 21, 2013 15:59:50 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 16:01:25 GMT -5
If you're talking recent, I believe Sin Cara bypassed developmental. Seem to recall hearing Bryan had the option of bypassing it, but chose to do a stint in developmental because he didn't want to be seen as better than anybody. I thought that it was because he hadn't wrestled in a bit after signing and waiting for his tests to clear and he wanted to shake off the ring rust. Maybe it was both though.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Jan 21, 2013 16:11:59 GMT -5
I didn't even know developmental existed during that time. I thought it was just a concept that WWE created upon the demise of WCW and ECW, since there were no other big companies that could've already done the heavy lifting in terms of getting wrestlers ready for TV. It didn't exist then. The earliest they had something was 97-98ish when they'd bring in Dory Funk to run a 2 or 3 week seminar for guys they were looking to sign or had signed to take part in. Maybe you could count ECW since they sent Snow there. First real developmental territory was either PPW or HWA in 98. WWF had a working agreement with the USWA here in Memphis from late 1992 until not long before it closed in 1997. It was used as developmental, but also as a place to try out new characters,and as a place to get guys work when Vince didn't have much for them to do. Growing up in Memphis I got to see stuff like The Rock as Flex Kavana, the extremely crappy USWA version of the Nation of Domination, and heel versions of Tatanka, Bret Hart, and (nowadays the most notable) Heel Vince McMahon in 1993.
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Post by sagsag on Jan 21, 2013 16:14:26 GMT -5
Right, USWA was definitely a developmental-like place, but it wasn't like it is today. I don't think today's style of basically mandatory developmental really came into full swing until like 1998 or so, when they were partnering with HWA, and later Memphis Wrestling.
And didn't Alberto Del Rio bypass FCW?
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jan 21, 2013 16:15:29 GMT -5
Did Vince or Shane ever do anything before they wrestled? Or did they just train behind the scenes. I'm imagining Vince training to fight Austin by wearing a Lucha Mask and being Toronjas Cojones in the indies. I recall hearing gossip back in the day about how Vince McMahon was the masked scrub Mr. X who was squashed by both faces and heels on the WWF syndicated television shows.
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Post by Error on Jan 21, 2013 16:26:27 GMT -5
Right, USWA was definitely a developmental-like place, but it wasn't like it is today. I don't think today's style of basically mandatory developmental really came into full swing until like 1998 or so, when they were partnering with HWA, and later Memphis Wrestling. And didn't Alberto Del Rio bypass FCW? Exactly. USWA was talent swapping and a place to try things out that did include young wrestlers, same as their deal with SMW and ECW. Developmental as we know it, a place where they are training people in wrestling and WWE style didn't exist until later. As for Del Rio, he did a year or so in FCW briefly under a mask, then as Alberto Banderas before taking the Del Rio name and then moving up.
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Post by gl83 on Jan 21, 2013 16:26:44 GMT -5
Right, USWA was definitely a developmental-like place, but it wasn't like it is today. I don't think today's style of basically mandatory developmental really came into full swing until like 1998 or so, when they were partnering with HWA, and later Memphis Wrestling. And didn't Alberto Del Rio bypass FCW? No, Del Rio also wrestled in FCW as well. The only ones who skipped developmental were Sin Cara and Kharma.
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Post by sprawl on Jan 21, 2013 16:47:23 GMT -5
Like people said developmental wasn't around until late 90s/early 2000s, and the first real generation of developmental talents came up circa 2001/2002 I think - so John Cena, Victoria, Randy Orton, Charlie Haas, Rico, Shelton Benjamin, Brock Lesnar, Eugene, Batista, Mike Knox, Heidenreich? etc..
No way Foley would have gone to developmental anyway, Austin either (they probably would nowadays but not then) because they were already working, already known enough and on TV for years and years. Foley since the 80s.
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Post by lovingway on Jan 21, 2013 16:52:06 GMT -5
Actually Memphis was before HWA
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Post by TGM on Jan 21, 2013 16:52:54 GMT -5
I didn't even know developmental existed during that time. I thought it was just a concept that WWE created upon the demise of WCW and ECW, since there were no other big companies that could've already done the heavy lifting in terms of getting wrestlers ready for TV. It didn't exist then. The earliest they had something was 97-98ish when they'd bring in Dory Funk to run a 2 or 3 week seminar for guys they were looking to sign or had signed to take part in. Maybe you could count ECW since they sent Snow there. First real developmental territory was either PPW or HWA in 98. I think they had USWA in the mid nineties.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 16:54:54 GMT -5
I believe Power Pro Wrestling in late 1998-99 was considered developmental/a Triple-A like affiliate for the WWF. They also had HWA, then. Anytime before that, you either worked in an agreement with Smoky Mountain, the USWA, ECW or any of the other indies/territories.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Jan 21, 2013 17:06:04 GMT -5
Based on when they were actually signed and all. I dont recall when Taker was actually signed and when made his debut at survivor series I've never heard of Mankind's stint down there. Stone Cold either. Its not like they were instant stars. Who else didn't have a stint there? All three had stints in WCW beforehand, being Mean, a Cactus and Stunning respectively. WWE had seen they could wrestle, so they let 'em in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 17:11:19 GMT -5
Power Pro Wrestling in Memphis, created in April 1998, was the first actual developmental territory. USWA, SMW, and ECW got to use WWF talent because the owners of the company (Lawler, Cornette, Heyman) worked for or had some type of agreement with the WWF.
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