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Post by celticjobber on Jan 26, 2013 19:47:10 GMT -5
I have no problem with it. Punk's title run has most likely only been this long to lead up to the Rock winning the title from him.
And Rock/Cena in a rematch is a much bigger draw for casuals (the vast majority of WWE fans) than Rock/Punk.
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Post by driver8 on Jan 26, 2013 20:07:04 GMT -5
Oh, Rock/Cena is indisputably a huge draw for casual fans.
But selfishly, as a non-casual fan yourself, what would you prefer to happen?
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 26, 2013 20:08:44 GMT -5
Oh, Rock/Cena is indisputably a huge draw for casual fans. But selfishly, as a non-casual fan yourself, what would you prefer to happen? Personally, I'd rather see Cena vs. Taker, Rock vs. Brock, and Punk vs. Daniel Bryan for the WWE title.
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Post by driver8 on Jan 26, 2013 20:10:58 GMT -5
Then we are of one mind, sir.
Methinks we'll go unsatisfied this year though. Maybe next year. At least as far as Cena/Taker goes.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 26, 2013 20:28:37 GMT -5
three of the four matches you listed there are rematches! Sorry, I meant recent rematches. Things have changed significantly since the matches I listed, and they would feel fresh. It's been over a decade since they occurred. We saw Brock/HHH six months ago and neither of them have done anything since, and Rock/Cena is so worn down from the year of build. Not to mention its decisive, clean finish. Rock/Cena isn't worn down to me until Cena wins, because I just flat don't like the Rock. Seeing a guy like Brock take on a guy like Punk doesn't interest me because honestly visually I won't be able to get rid of images of early 90's jobber matches.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 26, 2013 20:30:01 GMT -5
Oh, Rock/Cena is indisputably a huge draw for casual fans. But selfishly, as a non-casual fan yourself, what would you prefer to happen? I'm a casual fan who's simply obsessive about my interests and likes the internet. My POV does not change simply because I gain more knowledge of what I'm watching. Anyone else like that?
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 26, 2013 20:59:26 GMT -5
I'll preface this by saying A. I know this is all based on speculation and newz B. I realise how smarky it comes across Is anyone else nervous about how it seems the company is about to sacrifice the entire Punk title reign and Punk/Rock feud at the altar of having Cena beat Rock at Wrestlemania? I know it's coming from my [some would say] smarky dislike of Cena, but it just sounds like a dispiriting main event, and a way to return us to the status quo. Couple that with the notion of Hunter getting his win back from Brock, and Wrestlemania is, for the first time in years, not looking like something I'll order. I know Lesnar and Rock are no one's idea of the young guns who should be getting pushed, and I'm already hearing the counter-argument about using the special attractions to aid the company guys, but still, anyone else not feeling overly enthused about where this is all [potentionally] going? I have some of the same fears, yes. I think it's jumping the gun to be so 'paranoid' before we see what happens this Sunday. While some will jump all over you if you dare question the WWE, I don't think "status quo" is an overused phrase as much as an ongoing problem that the WWE has. I said this in another thread, but it has nothing to do with Punk losing the title and everything to do with their failure to build new stars. But again, let's see what happens Sunday/Monday. If it doesn't go a great way, we can message board our troubles away.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jan 26, 2013 21:02:09 GMT -5
Oh, Rock/Cena is indisputably a huge draw for casual fans. But selfishly, as a non-casual fan yourself, what would you prefer to happen? I'm a casual fan who's simply obsessive about my interests and likes the internet. My POV does not change simply because I gain more knowledge of what I'm watching. Anyone else like that? Yeah, "casual fan" is a hard term to use. I know my onions when it comes to wrestling, but I rarely actually watch it anymore, following it via Interweb. So my actual firsthand knowledge of the product is very casual, but my knowledge is more vast than what we'd consider "casual". I don't mind Cena's matches but can't stand listening to him talk. I'd be up for a new Rock match this year, not a rematch with Cena. I don't give a good goddamn about anything CM Punk does.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 26, 2013 21:08:17 GMT -5
I'm a casual fan who's simply obsessive about my interests and likes the internet. My POV does not change simply because I gain more knowledge of what I'm watching. Anyone else like that? I don't mind Cena's matches but can't stand listening to him talk. hell, I'm like that with everyone. I like WWE because I like WWE style matches and the shows' production values. There's very few guys I like listening to them talk. Even Hogan beyond his catch phrases didn't do much for me.
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Post by sonofblaine on Jan 27, 2013 0:37:38 GMT -5
At the risk of being "that guy" or sounding smarky, worst case scenario is Rock gets the title tommarrow, Cena wins the Rumble, Cena/Rock 2 for Mania, Cena wins this one so Rock can drop the title and go back to Hollywood. I'll enjoy everything either way, but I'd at least like Punk to retain, even if Cena takes it at Mania.
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Post by onestepplan on Jan 27, 2013 6:10:55 GMT -5
I'm fine with Rock/Cena II as long as Cena turns heel to beat Rock at Wrestlemania. I know the fabled 'Cena heel turn' has come and gone as an IWC fantasy but I can't see them running such a boring story as Cena gets his win back and they shake hands. At least not at Wrestlmania. So I figure they either don't have the rematch or Cena turns heel to finally overcome Rock. If Cena goes over clean, it'd be really disappointing since WWE has made some important creative steps forward over the last year.
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Post by Moppy on Jan 27, 2013 6:15:55 GMT -5
Chill guys, even Wrestlemanias that suck usually have great build ups.
There'll be something for everyone.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 27, 2013 6:19:15 GMT -5
To play devil's advocate: Punk's only been a legitimate top guy since mid 2011 Cena's been THE top guy since early 2005 I don't find this true at all. Cena hasn't been THE guy since then. He's been ONE OF the top guys, but he wasn't THE top guy until 2010 when Triple H and Shawn Michaels both left.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 6:25:12 GMT -5
I fear the Triple H match. That's mainly it. Rock/Cena 2 isn't so much fear as resigned to apathy.
Trips/Lesnar and Rock/Cena is the worst case scenario, for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 7:01:26 GMT -5
Punk's been champion for 434 days and honestly through all he's gone through it's been a memorable reign. The longest WWE Championship reign in the past 25 years. Him dropping it to Rock of all people, the guy who beat Cena at WM, after all the things he's gone through, all the people he's evaded, all the things he's done is completely fine in my book. Right now the 2 competitors at the top of the ladder in WWE are Undertaker and Rock. So really Rock beating Punk makes the most sense, it makes sense. Besides it's because of The Rock that Punk's even held the belt this long. Punk will probably enter a feud with Taker after he can't win the title back and then move onto something else to keep his status up.
Cena is getting his win back, we know it, he'll be champion again. It's John Cena. With that said I expect his next reign to be one of his final WWE Championship reigns before a heel turn. He'll probably hold it a few more times actually but once we get a new top guy to replace Cena the first thing they'll do is let him turn heel. This reign is fine for me.
It could be worse. I'd rather Rock hold the belt than someone like Lesnar. Rock's more invested.
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