|
Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 26, 2013 17:49:55 GMT -5
Haven't buyrates in 2012 actually been slightly higher across the board? I particularly remember Hell in a Cell increasing from 2011 despite no John Cena, which would indicate that he is at least getting fans to pay to watch him wrestle.
|
|
CH Punk
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Advice: Noted
Stuck in the Retro Zone
Posts: 15,570
|
Post by CH Punk on Jan 26, 2013 17:56:18 GMT -5
Haven't buyrates in 2012 actually been slightly higher across the board? I particularly remember Hell in a Cell increasing from 2011 despite no John Cena, which would indicate that he is at least getting fans to pay to watch him wrestle. There was also only one PPV in 2012 in the same time frame as there were three in 2011.
|
|
kidglov3s
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Wants her Shot
Who is Tiger Maskooo?
Posts: 15,870
|
Post by kidglov3s on Jan 26, 2013 18:01:53 GMT -5
Haven't buyrates in 2012 actually been slightly higher across the board? I particularly remember Hell in a Cell increasing from 2011 despite no John Cena, which would indicate that he is at least getting fans to pay to watch him wrestle. Meltzer said Vince attributed that to Ryback and was why Ryback was put into the Survivor Series title match.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 18:08:21 GMT -5
He drew me. I wouldn't be watching WWE today if not for CM Punk.
|
|
Arrow
Hank Scorpio
Posts: 5,122
|
Post by Arrow on Jan 26, 2013 18:09:09 GMT -5
Yes, he's a draw. There are people who pay to see CM Punk.
The real question is how big of a draw he is compared to the other guys working on/with the product. He's always the 2nd most pushed full-time wrestler on Raw, coming in behind John Cena. So you could assume he's the second-highest draw in WWE, as far as the full-time roster is concerned.
It's when you include established megastars/part-time special attractions (The Rock, Brock Lesnar, Triple H, The Undertaker) who are exceptional talents, and would be exceptional in any generation, that he slides down the ladder. And that's not even taking into account talent that wrestle elsewhere (Hulk Hogan, Sting, Jeff Hardy...).
When it's just Punk competing against the usual crew on Raw, I'd imagine he's about 2nd place. When you factor in the part-timers, it's 6th place. And then you bring in the TNA guys, and he might drop down to around 8th, 9th, or 10th (depending on where you'd place Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle). Which is still pretty good, honestly.
|
|
kidglov3s
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Wants her Shot
Who is Tiger Maskooo?
Posts: 15,870
|
Post by kidglov3s on Jan 26, 2013 18:10:14 GMT -5
He drew me. I wouldn't be watching WWE today if not for CM Punk. Me too. He's the only thing I watch Raw for on a typical show. Then The Rock too if he's on. I keep hoping for the other stuff to pull me in but it's usually a loong 3hrs with five minutes of fun tucked somewhere in the middle.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2013 18:20:08 GMT -5
He drew me. I wouldn't be watching WWE today if not for CM Punk. Me too. He's the only thing I watch Raw for on a typical show. Then The Rock too if he's on. I keep hoping for the other stuff to pull me in but it's usually a loong 3hrs with five minutes of fun tucked somewhere in the middle. His last chance at the ECW title was the match that made me a wrestling fan again, after being driven away by a combination of Triple H, Zack Gowen, Al Wilson and general fatigue from watching for 7-8 years. I happened to see that a show called "ECW" was airing that night on (then) SciFi, and that CM Punk and Jim Morrison were going to fight. I had read about CM Punk a lot in wrestling magazines from the late 2000s, and though not a big Doors fan I respected Morrison's resurrection and new career path, so I decided to check it out, and I've been back ever since. CM Punk is a high quality performer at a time when business isn't great. WWE will always need great talent, they're the number one wrestling company in the world and it's expected that they have the finest performers the business has to offer. The high quality performers that don't necessarily move the needle are still heavily valued, because they're the ones that will be making your next big star look like your next big star. If Stone Cold Steve Austin's big push was a year long, multi-match feud with King Mabel, safe to say there would have been a lot less Austin 3:16 t-shirts printed.
|
|
|
Post by cabbageboy on Jan 26, 2013 18:24:00 GMT -5
The real question is this: Has CM Punk been in a position to draw at all? For most of his title run he played 2nd fiddle to various guys (Cena, Brock, whoever) and a lack of viable heel opponents hurt his initial feuds. Then as a heel he went back to feuding with Cena, so it's no wonder a fairly strongly booked new face like Ryback drew a slightly better PPV number.
|
|