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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 13:05:12 GMT -5
Personally, I thought they handled wrestling beautifully- I don't think enough fans acknowledge just how much acting goes into it. And they got Vince's mentality down without using the same slobbering caricature everyone else does. Beyond that, what made the episode great was that it WASN'T AT ANY POINT SUPPOSED TO BE A PARODY OF WRESTLING. Trey and Matt have said for quite a while they wouldn't do an episode making fun of wrestling as wrestling already makes fun of itself and is too self aware. The "Wrestling" episode wasn't a topical episode, but rather a "kids" episode that explored that point in every kids' life when they become obsessed with wrestling. And, in that regard, it excelled. I also never got the "DON'T YOU DARE MAKE FUN OF MY SELECT ESOTERIC INTERESTS, 'SOUTH PARK!'" mentality. Do you mean to tell me religion, sexuality, politics, race, gender, the economy, natural disasters, terrorism and epidemics are all fair game, but adult males who enjoy a cartoon based on toys for little girls isn't? And I say this as someone who watches "MLP:FiM." In the grand scheme of things, if you think it's the most sacred cow "South Park" could make a joke about, you might need to re-evaluate a few things. I'm with you on all of this. Completely. And as funny as a "Brony" episode might be, I think we're on the backside of that whole.... whatever it was. Movement?
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jan 29, 2013 13:10:45 GMT -5
Beyond that, what made the episode great was that it WASN'T AT ANY POINT SUPPOSED TO BE A PARODY OF WRESTLING. Trey and Matt have said for quite a while they wouldn't do an episode making fun of wrestling as wrestling already makes fun of itself and is too self aware. The "Wrestling" episode wasn't a topical episode, but rather a "kids" episode that explored that point in every kids' life when they become obsessed with wrestling. And, in that regard, it excelled. I also never got the "DON'T YOU DARE MAKE FUN OF MY SELECT ESOTERIC INTERESTS, 'SOUTH PARK!'" mentality. Do you mean to tell me religion, sexuality, politics, race, gender, the economy, natural disasters, terrorism and epidemics are all fair game, but adult males who enjoy a cartoon based on toys for little girls isn't? And I say this as someone who watches "MLP:FiM." In the grand scheme of things, if you think it's the most sacred cow "South Park" could make a joke about, you might need to re-evaluate a few things. I'm with you on all of this. Completely. And as funny as a "Brony" episode might be, I think we're on the backside of that whole.... whatever it was. Movement? Inclined to agree. Developments this season have soured a lot of fans.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 29, 2013 13:32:55 GMT -5
I like how this whole conversation turned to whether or not it's okay to make fun of MLP. Maybe they can write an episode based on that. Maybe they'll censor it like the 201 episode, just to make you feel okay. Seriously guys, what the f***?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 14:19:30 GMT -5
One person said that.
All the other pro pony people said "Eh, we don't care much and we're sick of talking about it."
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 29, 2013 14:39:43 GMT -5
One person said that. All the other pro pony people said "Eh, we don't care much and we're sick of talking about it." Though we have reasonable bronies here. A lot of the bronies outside this board are...not so reasonable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 15:08:51 GMT -5
The post I was responding to specifically talked about this conversation.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 29, 2013 15:19:08 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I this thread still baffles me. I get poked fun at for being 21 and still watch wrestling, and it doesn't bother me at all. But god forbid fans of a kiddy pony cartoon show get made fun of that's the worst thing in the world. It's not even personal
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 29, 2013 15:33:27 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I this thread still baffles me. I get poked fun at for being 21 and still watch wrestling, and it doesn't bother me at all. But god forbid fans of a kiddy pony cartoon show get made fun of that's the worst thing in the world. It's not even personal To be fair the kind of bile thrown at MLP fans has been far worse than what has been thrown at wrestling fans. Granted none of it has been done on here, but across the web and other media outlets, they've been called things like pedophiles, furries, and bestiality fans. And that's the nicer stuff.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 29, 2013 15:38:57 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I this thread still baffles me. I get poked fun at for being 21 and still watch wrestling, and it doesn't bother me at all. But god forbid fans of a kiddy pony cartoon show get made fun of that's the worst thing in the world. It's not even personal To be fair the kind of bile thrown at MLP fans has been far worse than what has been thrown at wrestling fans. Granted none of it has been done on here, but across the web and other media outlets, they've been called things like pedophiles, furries, and bestiality fans. And that's the nicer stuff. And the thing is, a portion of them do actually fit into to a couple of those groups. None of the ones here of course, but I've seen some shit. Unless they were just trolling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 15:40:17 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I this thread still baffles me. I get poked fun at for being 21 and still watch wrestling, and it doesn't bother me at all. But god forbid fans of a kiddy pony cartoon show get made fun of that's the worst thing in the world. It's not even personal To be fair the kind of bile thrown at MLP fans has been far worse than what has been thrown at wrestling fans. Granted none of it has been done on here, but across the web and other media outlets, they've been called things like pedophiles, furries, and bestiality fans. And that's the nicer stuff. To be fair, a lot of bronies DO self-identify as furries. Which is not really a bad thing.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 29, 2013 15:42:54 GMT -5
To be fair the kind of bile thrown at MLP fans has been far worse than what has been thrown at wrestling fans. Granted none of it has been done on here, but across the web and other media outlets, they've been called things like pedophiles, furries, and bestiality fans. And that's the nicer stuff. To be fair, a lot of bronies DO self-identify as furries. Which is not really a bad thing. Right but the ENTIRE fanbase gets generalized as it. And that's the problem, because it is lumping people who aren't into that kind of stuff with the people who are into that kind of stuff.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 29, 2013 17:15:47 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I this thread still baffles me. I get poked fun at for being 21 and still watch wrestling, and it doesn't bother me at all. But god forbid fans of a kiddy pony cartoon show get made fun of that's the worst thing in the world. It's not even personal To be fair the kind of bile thrown at MLP fans has been far worse than what has been thrown at wrestling fans.Granted none of it has been done on here, but across the web and other media outlets, they've been called things like pedophiles, furries, and bestiality fans. And that's the nicer stuff. No, that's not true at all. Wrestling fans have been written-off for three/four decades now. MLPFIM is just more recent.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 29, 2013 17:23:46 GMT -5
To be fair the kind of bile thrown at MLP fans has been far worse than what has been thrown at wrestling fans.Granted none of it has been done on here, but across the web and other media outlets, they've been called things like pedophiles, furries, and bestiality fans. And that's the nicer stuff. No, that's not true at all. Wrestling fans have been written-off for three/four decades now. MLPFIM is just more recent. I never saw wrestling fans get called pedophiles and such. The worst I see them get called is ignorant rednecks.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 29, 2013 18:33:04 GMT -5
...so, to get this back on track, I still think You're Getting Old sucked. Maybe it's me- I'm sure a lot of fans could identify with Stan's attitude there, but I was the opposite.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 29, 2013 18:36:04 GMT -5
No, that's not true at all. Wrestling fans have been written-off for three/four decades now. MLPFIM is just more recent. I never saw wrestling fans get called pedophiles and such. The worst I see them get called is ignorant rednecks. Yeah, wrestling fans have been called such things. Trust me, even as a fan of the show, the Brony contingent isn't getting special treatment/torment from anybody.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 29, 2013 18:38:55 GMT -5
...so, to get this back on track, I still think You're Getting Old sucked. Maybe it's me- I'm sure a lot of fans could identify with Stan's attitude there, but I was the opposite. yeah, Stan seemed to be over cynical, and a downer. Still liked the episode, and the second part, a nice suddle FU from Matt and Trey to their critics about them "hitting the reset button" every week
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Jan 29, 2013 18:39:33 GMT -5
Why has the South Park thread degenerated into an argument about ponies?
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Jan 29, 2013 18:40:07 GMT -5
Forgive me, but I this thread still baffles me. I get poked fun at for being 21 and still watch wrestling, and it doesn't bother me at all. But god forbid fans of a kiddy pony cartoon show get made fun of that's the worst thing in the world. It's not even personal I misread this as "kiddy porn cartoon." ...I'm sorry.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Jan 29, 2013 18:41:22 GMT -5
...so, to get this back on track, I still think You're Getting Old sucked. Maybe it's me- I'm sure a lot of fans could identify with Stan's attitude there, but I was the opposite. Yeah Stan was kind of a dick.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 29, 2013 22:24:20 GMT -5
...so, to get this back on track, I still think You're Getting Old sucked. Maybe it's me- I'm sure a lot of fans could identify with Stan's attitude there, but I was the opposite. I identify with Stan. Sadly, I enjoyed my childhood a little too much. You always look at things through rose tinted glasses, but I have to say...by around 1998 and especially when 9/11 happened, I almost felt like me and the world as it was becoming were going in two completely separate directions. Even now, 15 years later, it's almost as if I'm a spectator as opposed to being with the in crowd. It's not necessarily me trying to be a hipster, because I don't even fall under that category. It's as if Matt and Trey were writing part of my life. Now granted, it's not nearly as bad as Stan's was, nor do I drink away my sorrows, but the same principle applies.
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