Death of Superman vs. The Clone Saga

[BRAINFADE]

Jan 30, 2013 9:30:25 GMT -5 Dr. T is an alien said:

The Clone Saga bothered me because it was such wasted potential.

Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider was an interesting character that they had to scrap in order to white wash the stink of such bad planning away. They could have kept him as a clone all along that started to find value in his life again by throwing his all into crime fighting and left most of the new villains in the saga as the start of his own rogues gallery. He could have been a character who more or less completely surrendered to the crime-fighting and at times completely lose himself because it is the only thing in his life that makes him feel worthy of a continued existence, leaving him a hollow shell of a man when the costume is off. If any comic book company could pull off a self-loathing and selfless hero it would have been Marvel.

Kaine could have been Ben's Venom, a recovering psychopath who finds himself attempting to regain some level of normalcy by attempting to mimic his rival's nature. He can hate Ben for being a perfect clone who could go out into society to be a full member of it, something Kaine cannot do, only for Ben to refuse to do so. His motivation for doing good could be, at least originally, to demonstrate to Ben that he could do better at the only thing that Ben finds to be of value in his life, though in reality he winds up behaving more like a superpowered Punisher.

Having Peter decide that with Ben's return that he could spend less time being Spiderman and more time as Peter Parker, husband and father, could have been an interesting side story for the original character. He can "lose his smile", so to speak, in regards to crime fighting. Sure, he will eventually regain it as his normal life starts deteriorating (come on, can Spiderman ever be truly comfortable for long periods of time?)

...This is an AWESOME idea, and would have totally worked. Ben/Scarlet Spider was initially an interesting character, and I for one would have liked to see him have his own title for a while, if some of these kind of ideas were incorporated.

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Jan 30, 2013 17:32:50 GMT -5 BRAINFADE said:

Jan 30, 2013 9:30:25 GMT -5 Dr. T is an alien said:

The Clone Saga bothered me because it was such wasted potential.

Ben Reilly/Scarlet Spider was an interesting character that they had to scrap in order to white wash the stink of such bad planning away. They could have kept him as a clone all along that started to find value in his life again by throwing his all into crime fighting and left most of the new villains in the saga as the start of his own rogues gallery. He could have been a character who more or less completely surrendered to the crime-fighting and at times completely lose himself because it is the only thing in his life that makes him feel worthy of a continued existence, leaving him a hollow shell of a man when the costume is off. If any comic book company could pull off a self-loathing and selfless hero it would have been Marvel.

Kaine could have been Ben's Venom, a recovering psychopath who finds himself attempting to regain some level of normalcy by attempting to mimic his rival's nature. He can hate Ben for being a perfect clone who could go out into society to be a full member of it, something Kaine cannot do, only for Ben to refuse to do so. His motivation for doing good could be, at least originally, to demonstrate to Ben that he could do better at the only thing that Ben finds to be of value in his life, though in reality he winds up behaving more like a superpowered Punisher.

Having Peter decide that with Ben's return that he could spend less time being Spiderman and more time as Peter Parker, husband and father, could have been an interesting side story for the original character. He can "lose his smile", so to speak, in regards to crime fighting. Sure, he will eventually regain it as his normal life starts deteriorating (come on, can Spiderman ever be truly comfortable for long periods of time?)

...This is an AWESOME idea, and would have totally worked. Ben/Scarlet Spider was initially an interesting character, and I for one would have liked to see him have his own title for a while, if some of these kind of ideas were incorporated.

it's like I said before, if you think this idea sounds cool, it's basically exactly what the current Scarlet Spider is about. well, that and adorable little girls with psychic powers.