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Post by hitchslap on Jan 29, 2013 18:18:25 GMT -5
ya, he sucks. I've seen some of his work in NXT and nothing has excited me about him. he doesn't have a great look, either. he's, what, 20 years old or something, and it absolutely shows. I don't buy him as a credible threat as I don't think that baby-face transvestites are particularly worrying for anyone on the roster. I'll see how it plays out, but for the time being, the guy is super boring.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jan 29, 2013 18:18:58 GMT -5
But what about the part where everybody wants to build new stars?
I thought there was this overwhelming sentiment that the Attitude Era guys were pushing everyone back and no new stars were being made. But then the WWE gives a new guy na little push and BAM!
What's the deal? The deal is like if I asked ford to build me a new car, All the bells and whistles, fast forward I get my new car and what I get is a 1996 Ford Taurus with a new paint job.
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Post by Some Guy on Jan 29, 2013 18:21:30 GMT -5
I am amazed at how people are able to form concrete permanent opinions after a rather innocuous Royal Rumble and one minor upset win. Bu-bu-bu-but DEVELOPMENTALYes, because we cannot form opinions on dozens of matches and segments featured with him. And the crowd's opinion on him who see him all the time. They are also wrong.
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Post by Talent Name on Jan 29, 2013 18:29:36 GMT -5
I can count on my hands 10 guys that should be ahead of Bo Dallas to be brought up 1. Bray Wyatt 2. Xavier Woods 3. Leo Kruger 4. Adrian Neville 5. Luke Harper 6. Percy Watson 7. Eric Rowan 8. Corey Graves 9. Mike Dalton 10. Kassius Ohno Bo's spear is horrible, his delivery is horrible and I can't get behind him right now I think maybe the only person in development longer is Alexander Rusev
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 29, 2013 18:31:44 GMT -5
So if they pushed a panda bear or Hornswaggle, we should just shut up and be happy that he's new? Suck is suck, and he sucks right now. He might become the Rock, he might be David Flair. But right now, I don't want him on my tv and would prefer better more charismatic wrestlers from NXT in his place. yes, because the success of new people will encourage them to keep pushing new people, while if you spit on everyone they bring up they'll rely on older people. Huh? Loads of new guys are popular on this board and over with live crowds to varying degrees, The Shield and Big E Langston being the most recent examples but also the likes of Sandow and Cesaro who have slotted in so seamlessly within the past year. I'm not sure how over Maddox is as most of his segments are backstage but he definitely has his fans. One unpopular choice out of eight is hardly spiting on everyone they bring up. You can also see on the various Bo threads how popular many other NXT wrestlers are.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Jan 29, 2013 18:33:17 GMT -5
Bu-bu-bu-but DEVELOPMENTALYes, because we cannot form opinions on dozens of matches and segments featured with him. And the crowd's opinion on him who see him all the time. They are also wrong. You forgot this part. Also, I thought we all wanted WWE Creative to wait until they had plans for someone before they were brought up? Hate to break it to you guys, but they just might not have any kind of plans for Kassius Ohno just yet. So deal. But, I get it.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 29, 2013 18:33:40 GMT -5
It's a Pavlovian response to the fact that his theme song sounds suspiciously like Braden Walker's.
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Post by BigWill on Jan 29, 2013 18:34:39 GMT -5
He's sucked in developmental for over 4 years. Am I suppose to assume he's suddenly going to get good just by being on the main roster? Cody Rhodes Cody Rhodes only spent a year in developmental.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 29, 2013 18:35:50 GMT -5
I can count on my hands 10 guys that should be ahead of Bo Dallas to be brought up 1. Bray Wyatt 2. Xavier Woods 3. Leo Kruger 4. Adrian Neville 5. Luke Harper 6. Percy Watson 7. Eric Rowan 8. Corey Graves 9. Mike Dalton 10. Kassius Ohno Bo's spear is horrible, his delivery is horrible and I can't get behind him right now I think maybe the only person in development longer is Alexander Rusev well, you don't have to worry about his spear, because he's using a side belly to belly. also, Bo is doing a young up and comer gimmick. You want any of those other guys to have that as their persona?
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 29, 2013 18:39:40 GMT -5
I am amazed at how people are able to form concrete permanent opinions after a rather innocuous Royal Rumble and one minor upset win. Also, I thought we all wanted WWE Creative to wait until they had plans for someone before they were brought up? Hate to break it to you guys, but they just might not have any kind of plans for Kassius Ohno just yet. So deal. This argument makes no sense. The storyline is planned and is, admittedly, a good storyline but they could use anyone in the role. As in someone who is actually ready for the roster and actually talented yet WWE pick a green kid who can barely wrestle, has no charisma, no idea how to play to the audience and who hasn't developed a moveset yet. Bo may get good in the future, who knows, but right now he sucks. He isn't ready, so why use him? Other guys like Ohno, Kruger or Xavier Woods are actually ready for the main roster so they should be given the spot. Xavier Woods more than anyone tbh. The guy has lots of charisma and is very likeable and not too shabby in the ring.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 29, 2013 18:40:33 GMT -5
But what about the part where everybody wants to build new stars?
I thought there was this overwhelming sentiment that the Attitude Era guys were pushing everyone back and no new stars were being made. But then the WWE gives a new guy na little push and BAM!
What's the deal? No, shut up. No one is a hypocrite for not liking someone. Everyone has their own tastes, and wants their own favorites to get pushed. Don't act like Bo represents everyone on NXT and act like someone hating him means they hate the idea of new stars. For one, I never singled anyone out for being a hypocrite. I said the vast majority here scream about making new stars. It's been a prevalent point of conversation since the Rock came back and will assumedly be main eventing Mania this year. That ties into...yes, because the success of new people will encourage them to keep pushing new people, while if you spit on everyone they bring up they'll rely on older people. WWE is no one's personal playground except Vince's and the fans aren't given a menu to order from. It's not done your way or my way either. Pick out what you like and focus on that. This. The WWE has a track record of not pushing new people all that well. When they go out on a limb, why not be appreciative that they're taking that first step (despite him not being someone's personal favorite) in the hopes that they continue to do this with other, more "charismatic" stars in the future? That's what I'm saying.
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Post by Talent Name on Jan 29, 2013 18:45:34 GMT -5
I can count on my hands 10 guys that should be ahead of Bo Dallas to be brought up 1. Bray Wyatt 2. Xavier Woods 3. Leo Kruger 4. Adrian Neville 5. Luke Harper 6. Percy Watson 7. Eric Rowan 8. Corey Graves 9. Mike Dalton 10. Kassius Ohno Bo's spear is horrible, his delivery is horrible and I can't get behind him right now I think maybe the only person in development longer is Alexander Rusev well, you don't have to worry about his spear, because he's using a side belly to belly. also, Bo is doing a young up and comer gimmick. You want any of those other guys to have that as their persona? I could see Dalton or Woods getting over with it, also Woods has a boatload of charisma and already has tv experience
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Post by Brainbustaaah! on Jan 29, 2013 18:58:21 GMT -5
The fact that this push could have gone to Richie Steamboat instead just makes me sad. This.
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Post by jetsonic on Jan 29, 2013 18:59:35 GMT -5
Bo Dallas is the Chuck Norris of the WWE
HE IS THE FUTURE!
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 29, 2013 18:59:45 GMT -5
So I guess if this board was around in 1993, there would've been "I Hate 123 Kid" threads?
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Post by avenger on Jan 29, 2013 19:00:10 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of Dallas, but he's one of those guys that will improve by facing experienced wrestlers (rather than fellow inexperienced ones), but that's one of my main gripes about WWE Developmental, rather than a reason to promote Bo. That said, if you're giving someone from NXT this gimmick at this time, I think he was one of the best choices I wanna know who "the right choice" would be for some of you guys since you keep using that phrase. Adrien Neville, Bray Wyatt, Conor O'Brian, Corey Graves, Jake Carter, Kassius Ohno, Leo Kruger, Luke Harper, Oliver Grey, Richie Steamboat, or Xavier Woods. All would have been solid choices, for various reasons. I think Steamboat is injured (he's not wrestled at an NXT tapings ince October). Wyatt is also still injured, and do you really want to strip away the charisma he's showing with the Wyatt Family and give him a white meat plucky underdog storyline? Do Corey Graves, Kassius Ohno or Luke Harper look like sympathetic babyfaces? Do you want to take the coolness of the Ascension gimmick from Conor O'Brien? Do you want to put Adrian Neville in a 20 minute Royal Rumble slot (where there was no real chance to show off his aerial prowess unles you want to rewrite a large chunk of it) and a match where he's dominated and gets a quick shock win - in otherwords do you want to debut him without the corkscrew shooting star press? Isn't Xavier Woods a little too well known to have the unknown underdog storyline? The only two of that list who fit this sort of storyline are Dallas and Jake Carter, but given how much these gimmicks tend to fail, isn't it better to give it to a really young kid, who can disappear in a few weeks, and re-emerge in a couple of years still young, rather than it being Jake Carter (who also comes across as a charisma vacuum to me)
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Post by hitchslap on Jan 29, 2013 19:03:47 GMT -5
So I guess if this board was around in 1993, there would've been "I Hate 123 Kid" threads? absolutely. I did hate 123 Kid (and Sean Waltman in general).
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jan 29, 2013 19:09:10 GMT -5
Bo's spear is horrible, his delivery is horrible and I can't get behind him right now I think maybe the only person in development longer is Alexander Rusev Alexander Rusev hasn't been in developmental anywhere near as long as Bo Rotunda. Rusev just got signed a few years ago. Rotunda was down in Florida back before original NXT, back when Caylen Croft and Trent Barreta were still down there. Apart from that, spot on.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 29, 2013 19:11:20 GMT -5
He should be announced as "From the Bo Palace."
And he should come to the ring drinking a Bo Chalice.
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Post by YiHammer on Jan 29, 2013 19:15:46 GMT -5
The BOflex Gym
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