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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 30, 2013 12:26:47 GMT -5
I wasn't keen on Bo getting in the Rumble over the guys he went against, but the plucky underdog who gets lucky against a champ storyline doesn't really work unless you can really sell getting the crap beat out of you. Bo's an okay seller, but guys like Dalton, Woods, and Steamboat (though I'm pretty sure he's injured) can get a crowd behind them with their selling... okay maybe not Dalton (he's better than Bo in the ring, but has a lot less charisma).
You can't have him get lucky wins, cause eventually people are gonna lose interest. Happened with Rocky Maivia and it happened with Santino when he first debuted before he went all comedy. Hell I'd argue it almost happened to Cody Rhodes. He debuted slapping Orton got a huge pop, then got his ass whooped by Hardcore Holly for a month or 2.
Course, they possibly could improve my opinion if they actually try to give people a reason to give a damn about Bo. I thought him being ignored entering the Rumble cause of Kofi's pogo chair was unfair to him, and constantly saying Bo's got fire and desire doesn't give people a reason to care.
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Post by Dragonfly on Jan 30, 2013 13:50:36 GMT -5
Honestly, I'm glad that it was Bo who got this shot. Before you all get angry, hear me out. It's not that I think he's better than anyone else. He just needs this the most. Here's what I mean:
- Conor O'Brien, Leo Kruger and the Wyatt Family all have unorthodox, layered gimmicks that will take some explanation. They need vignettes and/or a few backstage segments. Anything less would be doing them a disservice.
- Xavier Woods, Mike Dalton and Percy Watson would all be better served by a "highlight reel" vignette than they would by a random Rumble appearance.
- Derrick Bateman and Corey Graves are great in the ring, but really shine on the mic. If anyone could use the "Brad Maddox" push - live promos first, competitive matches later - it's those two. (And no, I'm not saying they should be squashed like Maddox is. I'm just saying that they should have their personas established before having their first match.)
- Ritchie Steamboat has his father's legacy. Use it. "Son of The Dragon" holds a lot more weight with the average fan than "son of IRS."
- Adrian Neville will be over the second he hits the British Airways. His debut should be saved for a "higher profile" moment, like the first Raw after Wrestlemania. Besides, he's still new. I'd give him a few more months to get used to things.
Bo doesn't have a crazy gimmick, a highlight reel worthy set of matches, good mic skills, a legendary father (Mike Rotunda may be remembered, but he's far from a legend) or a jaw dropping finisher. He's a young guy that people in the back see something in. Simply put, he needs some help. Sticking him in the Rumble then having him feud with a guy that can carry him both in the ring and on the mic is really the only way he'll get over at this point in time. If it works, great. If it doesn't, eh... That's life. At least they can say that they tried.
PS: You might have noticed that I didn't include Kassius Ohno on this list. I did it for one reason and one reason only: As far as I'm concerned, he's not ready. Please note that I said "Ohno," not "Hero." Chris Hero could be called up tomorrow and have a fine career. But this guy with the hipster glasses calling himself Kassius... He needs a lot time in developmental to work out the kinks.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jan 30, 2013 14:51:32 GMT -5
Bo Dallas is a person, That is about as much as I can say for him right now.
Am I too late to say inb4 thread about bo = he must be doing something right
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Jan 30, 2013 15:43:12 GMT -5
He needs a valet called Debbie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 15:45:30 GMT -5
Am I too late to say inb4 thread about bo = he must be doing something right I don't see it a lot on these boards, but I never got this logic of, "well, they have us talking about him, so he's over." The internet talks a lot about how WWE shoves social media down our throats, but that doesn't mean they're doing something right.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Jan 30, 2013 19:29:43 GMT -5
Am I too late to say inb4 thread about bo = he must be doing something right I don't see it a lot on these boards, but I never got this logic of, "well, they have us talking about him, so he's over." The internet talks a lot about how WWE shoves social media down our throats, but that doesn't mean they're doing something right. Agreed, that's why I mentioned it, I hate the argument.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 30, 2013 21:36:47 GMT -5
No one is saying people talking about Bo Dallas online means he's a success. Because if that was true, Zack Ryder would be a world title contender.
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Post by onetruemisfit on Jan 30, 2013 23:52:29 GMT -5
I was talking to my friend about Bo Dallas being in the rumble the day after and instead of Bo Dallas I said Boo Radley. He reminded me Boo Radley was a character from To Kill A Mocking Bird and it was Bo Dallas instead. Same difference to me.
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Post by metylerca on Jan 30, 2013 23:57:50 GMT -5
Well at least we're talking about the guy.
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Post by youlookfly on Jan 31, 2013 0:20:39 GMT -5
Why don't we take Bo Dallas' push and give it to Heath Slater?
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Jan 31, 2013 0:24:14 GMT -5
He is going to be the next John Cena. Won't be long until he gets a rapper gimmick.
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Post by kamotengkahoy on Jan 31, 2013 0:29:41 GMT -5
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Post by kolani on Jan 31, 2013 0:57:06 GMT -5
This board in a nutshell:
"VINCE NEEDS TO CREATE NEW STARS"
"GO BACK TO FCW BO DALLAS"
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Post by BigJerichool222 on Jan 31, 2013 0:58:42 GMT -5
All I know is, Bo Dallas backwards is Ob Sallad which is dangerously close to Cobb Salad.
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 31, 2013 1:04:23 GMT -5
I was talking to my friend about Bo Dallas being in the rumble the day after and instead of Bo Dallas I said Boo Radley. He reminded me Boo Radley was a character from To Kill A Mocking Bird and it was Bo Dallas instead. Same difference to me. And there's also Boo Bradley, which was one of Balls Mahoney's ring names before he was in ECW.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 31, 2013 1:06:03 GMT -5
This board in a nutshell: "VINCE NEEDS TO CREATE NEW STARS" "GO BACK TO FCW BO DALLAS" Because there are others who are more deserving.
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Post by kolani on Jan 31, 2013 1:12:41 GMT -5
This board in a nutshell: "VINCE NEEDS TO CREATE NEW STARS" "GO BACK TO FCW BO DALLAS" Because there are others who are more deserving. Okay, forgot the other line. "NOT THAT NEW STAR, THE ONE INTERNET HIVEMIND WANTED." Seriously though, guys. You complain about Orton, you complain about Big Show, you complain about Cena, they introduce a completely new guy and you crap all over him because he's not the completely new guy you wanted.
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Post by nate5054 on Jan 31, 2013 1:22:24 GMT -5
I don't watch NXT at all so I know nothing about the guy, but from what I've seen at Rumble/Raw, I'm not seeing anything special about him.
Does he do anything good? Is he good on the mic?
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Post by The Portable Stove on Jan 31, 2013 1:59:12 GMT -5
Because there are others who are more deserving. Okay, forgot the other line. "NOT THAT NEW STAR, THE ONE INTERNET HIVEMIND WANTED." Seriously though, guys. You complain about Orton, you complain about Big Show, you complain about Cena, they introduce a completely new guy and you crap all over him because he's not the completely new guy you wanted. Which one would that be? Before you say Ohno or Neville, be sure to look at the people also saying Woods, Wyatt, O'Brien, Kruger, Steamboat, Graves, etc.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 31, 2013 2:15:45 GMT -5
Okay, forgot the other line. "NOT THAT NEW STAR, THE ONE INTERNET HIVEMIND WANTED." Seriously though, guys. You complain about Orton, you complain about Big Show, you complain about Cena, they introduce a completely new guy and you crap all over him because he's not the completely new guy you wanted. People aren't crapping over this because Bo isn't the guy "the internet" wanted. They're crapping over this because he sucks and there are much better wrestlers in NXT this push could have and should have gone too. Xavier Woods would have been my perfect choice.
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