Steveweiser
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 31, 2013 5:29:36 GMT -5
Dragon Gate UK confirmed that he's off the shows in February... of course, going with the storyline reason of going back to look after the orphans in Mexico.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Jan 31, 2013 5:57:50 GMT -5
El Hijo de Gran Luchador
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Post by Capt. Internet Darling on Jan 31, 2013 8:14:42 GMT -5
"El Mas Generico" John Smith.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 31, 2013 8:17:14 GMT -5
my bad for all those that got mad at me for not using spoiler box. Wasn't thinking.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 31, 2013 11:41:20 GMT -5
I still don't get it. He'd still be the same guy wrestling.
If he's so talented he should be able to succeed without a mask.
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Post by Viking Snad on Jan 31, 2013 11:52:07 GMT -5
I still don't get it. He'd still be the same guy wrestling. If he's so talented he should be able to succeed without a mask. But when the guy establishes himself in a role, it's tough to imagine him outside said role. How would you feel if Undertaker was one of your favorites, and he came back as a ballerina? Just doesn't make sense.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 31, 2013 11:56:19 GMT -5
Taking off a mask is a little different from going from a zombie MMA fighter thing to a ballerina. Hey, speaking of which...Biker Taker was pretty over.
I'm just saying. If he's this star talent that some say is gonna help carry the company into the future he should be able to perform without it. He'll be just fine without a mask if he's really THAT good.
Guys go through gimmick changes all the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 12:01:07 GMT -5
Taking off a mask is a little different from going from a zombie MMA fighter thing to a ballerina. Hey, speaking of which...Biker Taker was pretty over. I'm just saying. If he's this star talent that some say is gonna help carry the company into the future he should be able to perform without it. He'll be just fine without a mask if he's really THAT good. Guys go through gimmick changes all the time. I posted something pretty similar in the first thread, given he's one of the most innovative independent wrestlers of the last few years and connects to the crowd in a way that makes me believe it's not just a gimmick connection, he'll be fine with whatever character he gets. He'll be fine unless he's given the character of a paedophile, and I say that in the "it'd be hard to destroy his inate charaisma and wrestling ability" sense. I truly believe he'll be able to turn bad into gold. PLUS until it happens I don't think there's much to be stressed about anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 12:10:33 GMT -5
They'll probably have him do a similar character to El Generico,just with a name and mask design that they trademark.
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Toates Madhackrviper
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jan 31, 2013 14:20:15 GMT -5
I think its goofy as heck to expect people to spoiler tag maskless pictures... whats the point in that? Seems weird.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 31, 2013 14:25:39 GMT -5
I think its goofy as heck to expect people to spoiler tag maskless pictures... whats the point in that? Seems weird. Mask Kayfabe. Like some people don't want to know who's under the mask.
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Post by froggyfrog on Jan 31, 2013 14:32:25 GMT -5
I think its goofy as heck to expect people to spoiler tag maskless pictures... whats the point in that? Seems weird. Agreed. Especially when its not even a confirmed pic. Like you weren't aware he was a pale goofy looking white guy?
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Post by Digital Witness on Jan 31, 2013 14:54:21 GMT -5
Its not that people doubt El Generico's ability to get over without the mask and shtick. What he can do without the mask and shtick is simply an unknown that many people can't picture because El Generico has been El Generico for pretty much all of his career. To my knowledge, he simply hasn't worked any other character.
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Post by Giul T. on Jan 31, 2013 15:01:03 GMT -5
I still don't get it. He'd still be the same guy wrestling. If he's so talented he should be able to succeed without a mask. But when the guy establishes himself in a role, it's tough to imagine him outside said role. How would you feel if Undertaker was one of your favorites, and he came back as a ballerina? Just doesn't make sense. Would you compare Generico without the mask to Undertaker as American Badass then?
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jan 31, 2013 15:04:45 GMT -5
I can't speak for everyone, but it seems that most are so attached to the awesome job he's done with the Generico character and don't want to see that go.
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Post by Viking Snad on Jan 31, 2013 15:40:26 GMT -5
But when the guy establishes himself in a role, it's tough to imagine him outside said role. How would you feel if Undertaker was one of your favorites, and he came back as a ballerina? Just doesn't make sense. Would you compare Generico without the mask to Undertaker as American Badass then? Not really, no. Unless they give Generico a gimmick that basically equates to himself without the mask, because that's realistically what Biker Taker was, the supernatural stuff being an equivalent to Generico's mask. A generic white luchador without a mask isn't marketable and lame. See Filthy Animals Rey Mysterio, or Juvi "The Juice", or Psychosis the ugly Mexican guy. Just didn't work.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 31, 2013 15:48:43 GMT -5
You know they could give him another gimmick to compensate the no mask thing. That's not completely out of the realm of possibility.
If he's as good and charismatic as people claim he is. He should do just fine unless they give him something really dumb to work with. (Although IMO the El Generico character is already kinda dumb and needs some sort of re-imagining. ATLEAST change the godawful name)
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Post by Viking Snad on Jan 31, 2013 16:01:08 GMT -5
I can't speak for everyone, but it seems that most are so attached to the awesome job he's done with the Generico character and don't want to see that go.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Jan 31, 2013 16:08:31 GMT -5
The thing about the El Generico gimmick is that it screams WWE. Like something Vince came up with. It's a shame for it not to be used on WWE programming, like thats almost its proper home.
Also, El Generico ticks all the Rey Mysterio boxes. Could shift some serious merch.
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Post by Paco on Jan 31, 2013 17:08:12 GMT -5
To my knowledge, he simply hasn't worked any other character. He has. In the Montreal indys. He was able to pull double duty on a show as Generico and then one of the maskless characters he had.
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