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Post by 543Y2J on Feb 2, 2013 13:53:59 GMT -5
Yep...discuss!
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Post by Metalheadbanger Man on Feb 2, 2013 13:58:17 GMT -5
Loved their mini-feud, really funny skits between them. The match wasn't so great since it was essentially a squash until the Austin distraction.
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Post by Magician under the moonlight on Feb 2, 2013 14:01:48 GMT -5
He did not defeat the Rock, He defeated the Scorpion King, there is a difference.
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Post by Fade on Feb 2, 2013 14:20:06 GMT -5
Hollywood-Rock could of lost to Hurricane, Santino, and Heath Slater in a gauntlet match, and he'd still be Hella over.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 14:21:47 GMT -5
A synopsis on how the Hurricane was able to beat the Rock:
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Post by Feyrhausen on Feb 2, 2013 14:40:36 GMT -5
Loved their mini-feud, really funny skits between them. The match wasn't so great since it was essentially a squash until the Austin distraction. I disagree. Hurricane got a decent amount of offense, Rock sold well for him, and Hurricane looked good. The outcome was never in doubt until the Austin appearance but it was not a squash.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 14:45:56 GMT -5
I loved when Rock put on the cape and was mocking flying around the ring and then proceeds to compete a bit longer with it on as Hurricane gets in a comeback offense.
Rock needs to start doin that again...just randomly during a match throw on some Cena wrist bands or a Cena t-shirt and just mock them...it never leads to a good end result (see getting the stunner while wearing austins vest) but it is always hilarious.
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Post by Lick Ness Monster on Feb 2, 2013 15:15:18 GMT -5
I could have gone for an entire television series based around the backstage segments these two had in this feud. They were so awesome - truly wrestling comedy at its very best.
I also find it ironic yet completely believable that the Rock was willing to put Hurricane over, and something like three weeks later Triple H absolutely destroyed Hurra. Go figure.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 16:28:47 GMT -5
I also find it ironic yet completely believable that the Rock was willing to put Hurricane over, and something like three weeks later Triple H absolutely destroyed Hurra. Go figure. Triple H had a competitive match with him and won after Ric Flair interfered (Hurricane had the match won with a chokeslam until Flair stopped the count). In what world is that destroying? I'd argue in general that having a competitive match with a main event wrestler and losing makes you look stronger than getting your ass kicked and winning because someone else helped you. And the week after the Hurricane-Rock match Rock completely destroyed Hurricane (not saying there's anything wrong with that – Hurricane was a comedy wrestler who got a rub just by working with Rock). Then the next week Hurricane was on Sunday Night Heat. Then he was left off Wrestlemania. Then after Wrestlemania he lost (competitive) matches to Chris Jericho and, yes, Triple H, among others. I have no idea how I'm the only person who ever remembers any of this when it's all there on Youtube or in recaps. It's like an old folk tale that gets repeated so many times that every time it gets told it's exaggerated more and more to the point that itss somehow morphed into almost "Rock put Hurricane over clean as a sheet then HHH squashed him the next week."
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 2, 2013 16:36:43 GMT -5
Stop it!! Stop talking about Hollywood Rock!! You're making me sad about current Rock!
It was just a shared delusion, okay? Rock never came back with an awesome heel character. There's no reason to wish he was doing something similar right now. Okay? Okay??
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Post by Mrs. Potato Dick on Feb 2, 2013 19:36:58 GMT -5
I was at that Raw when Rock lost. Great show. The thing that got me most about the backstage segments...Rock would make fun of Hurricane for doing 'that fake ass super hero stuff', but when Hurricane swooped away, Rock looked UP as if he were really flying. Rock put him over huuuuuuuuuuge. How often does someone get to verbally win against Rock? Hurricane did.
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Post by mjolnir on Feb 2, 2013 19:40:50 GMT -5
I was at that Raw when Rock lost. Great show. The thing that got me most about the backstage segments...Rock would make fun of Hurricane for doing 'that fake ass super hero stuff', but when Hurricane swooped away, Rock looked UP as if he were really flying. Rock put him over huuuuuuuuuuge. How often does someone get to verbally win against Rock? Hurricane did. Yup, it's the little touches like that that maintain the universe's continuity that WWE lives in and helps put over talents in small ways.
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Post by norsisclouds on Feb 2, 2013 19:41:35 GMT -5
I could have gone for an entire television series based around the backstage segments these two had in this feud. They were so awesome - truly wrestling comedy at its very best. I also find it ironic yet completely believable that the Rock was willing to put Hurricane over, and something like three weeks later Triple H absolutely destroyed Hurra. Go figure. According to Helms, this was not a coincidence. In his shoot interview he said that as soon as he HHH found out Rock was going over Hurricane he campaigned in the back like crazy to go over him, and suddenly that was when he started to deal with shit from HBK.
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Post by chazraps on Feb 2, 2013 19:49:55 GMT -5
I also find it ironic yet completely believable that the Rock was willing to put Hurricane over, and something like three weeks later Triple H absolutely destroyed Hurra. Go figure. Triple H had a competitive match with him and won after Ric Flair interfered (Hurricane had the match won with a chokeslam until Flair stopped the count). In what world is that destroying? I'd argue in general that having a competitive match with a main event wrestler and losing makes you look stronger than getting your ass kicked and winning because someone else helped you. And the week after the Hurricane-Rock match Rock completely destroyed Hurricane (not saying there's anything wrong with that – Hurricane was a comedy wrestler who got a rub just by working with Rock). Then the next week Hurricane was on Sunday Night Heat. Then he was left off Wrestlemania. Then after Wrestlemania he lost (competitive) matches to Chris Jericho and, yes, Triple H, among others. I have no idea how I'm the only person who ever remembers any of this when it's all there on Youtube or in recaps. It's like an old folk tale that gets repeated so many times that every time it gets told it's exaggerated more and more to the point that itss somehow morphed into almost "Rock put Hurricane over clean as a sheet then HHH squashed him the next week." I completely forgot that he wasn't booked at Mania. I know the card was absolutely stacked, but wasn't Hurricane the #2 merch guy in the company at the time? They couldn't fit him ANYWHERE? I mean, it's not like with Steiner who was abysmal in 2 back-to-back payperview main events and left off the card. This is someone who was doing a lot for the company in terms of both crowd reaction and merchandise sales. How was he not utilized?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 19:56:29 GMT -5
Triple H had a competitive match with him and won after Ric Flair interfered (Hurricane had the match won with a chokeslam until Flair stopped the count). In what world is that destroying? I'd argue in general that having a competitive match with a main event wrestler and losing makes you look stronger than getting your ass kicked and winning because someone else helped you. And the week after the Hurricane-Rock match Rock completely destroyed Hurricane (not saying there's anything wrong with that – Hurricane was a comedy wrestler who got a rub just by working with Rock). Then the next week Hurricane was on Sunday Night Heat. Then he was left off Wrestlemania. Then after Wrestlemania he lost (competitive) matches to Chris Jericho and, yes, Triple H, among others. I have no idea how I'm the only person who ever remembers any of this when it's all there on Youtube or in recaps. It's like an old folk tale that gets repeated so many times that every time it gets told it's exaggerated more and more to the point that itss somehow morphed into almost "Rock put Hurricane over clean as a sheet then HHH squashed him the next week." I completely forgot that he wasn't booked at Mania. I know the card was absolutely stacked, but wasn't Hurricane the #2 merch guy in the company at the time? They couldn't fit him ANYWHERE? I mean, it's not like with Steiner who was abysmal in 2 back-to-back payperview main events and left off the card. This is someone who was doing a lot for the company in terms of both crowd reaction and merchandise sales. How was he not utilized? RVD and Kane too. Although they were originally booked for the card and cut for time. Cena too was starting to get hot at that time but was made to do with the pre-show. When you think about it, Wrestlemania 19 was arguably the most star studded card in wrestling history (Rock, Austin, Hogan, Vince, Undertaker, HHH, HBK, Jericho, Booker T, Brock, Angle, Benoit, Eddie). Makes it all the more surprising that it was the worst performing 'Mania in the past decade.
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Post by mystikz on Feb 2, 2013 21:21:08 GMT -5
I still love rewatching this feud.
Hollywood Rock was just amazing. All the the interactions with Hurricane and even the mocking during the match.
I wish he'd act a bit more like that. He doesn't even have to go heel.
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Post by lovingway on Feb 2, 2013 21:29:39 GMT -5
Rock lost to Al Snow as well.
Rock was actually one of the few people who could lose to anybody yet still look good due to his promos
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 2, 2013 21:36:46 GMT -5
I could have gone for an entire television series based around the backstage segments these two had in this feud. They were so awesome - truly wrestling comedy at its very best. I also find it ironic yet completely believable that the Rock was willing to put Hurricane over, and something like three weeks later Triple H absolutely destroyed Hurra. Go figure. According to Helms, this was not a coincidence. In his shoot interview he said that as soon as he HHH found out Rock was going over Hurricane he campaigned in the back like crazy to go over him, and suddenly that was when he started to deal with s*** from HBK. I am not really buying that, to be entirely honest. Helms may have said it, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. How much campaigning would Triple H really need to do?
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Post by chazraps on Feb 2, 2013 21:38:18 GMT -5
I completely forgot that he wasn't booked at Mania. I know the card was absolutely stacked, but wasn't Hurricane the #2 merch guy in the company at the time? They couldn't fit him ANYWHERE? I mean, it's not like with Steiner who was abysmal in 2 back-to-back payperview main events and left off the card. This is someone who was doing a lot for the company in terms of both crowd reaction and merchandise sales. How was he not utilized? RVD and Kane too. Although they were originally booked for the card and cut for time. Cena too was starting to get hot at that time but was made to do with the pre-show. When you think about it, Wrestlemania 19 was arguably the most star studded card in wrestling history (Rock, Austin, Hogan, Vince, Undertaker, HHH, HBK, Jericho, Booker T, Brock, Angle, Benoit, Eddie). Makes it all the more surprising that it was the worst performing 'Mania in the past decade. I don't find it all that surprising. The lovefest for WM19 didn't even really gain momentum until about 2010 or so when we, as a nation, had moved on long enough from that dreadful time to really appreciate the show for the one night of near-perfection (barring the finishes of Trips-Booker and the triangle tag match, the scratching of World Tag match, and the inclusion of Jazz) it truly was. But, remembering 2003, you had four weeks of absolute garbage leading up to the show, and four weeks of garbage following it. Yes, the show could and should be commended for overcoming a tidal wave of bad booking surrounding it, but considering who was left off the card and what was going on in the company at the time, it could have still been much, much better. I know dealing with hypotheticals isn't the best way to evaluate and find satisfaction in sports entertainment, but when it comes to what separates the legacy of a show like Wrestlemania 19 to a Wrestlemania 17, its a worthy discussion.
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Post by mo on Feb 2, 2013 21:54:26 GMT -5
Triple H had a competitive match with him and won after Ric Flair interfered (Hurricane had the match won with a chokeslam until Flair stopped the count). In what world is that destroying? I'd argue in general that having a competitive match with a main event wrestler and losing makes you look stronger than getting your ass kicked and winning because someone else helped you. And the week after the Hurricane-Rock match Rock completely destroyed Hurricane (not saying there's anything wrong with that – Hurricane was a comedy wrestler who got a rub just by working with Rock). Then the next week Hurricane was on Sunday Night Heat. Then he was left off Wrestlemania. Then after Wrestlemania he lost (competitive) matches to Chris Jericho and, yes, Triple H, among others. I have no idea how I'm the only person who ever remembers any of this when it's all there on Youtube or in recaps. It's like an old folk tale that gets repeated so many times that every time it gets told it's exaggerated more and more to the point that itss somehow morphed into almost "Rock put Hurricane over clean as a sheet then HHH squashed him the next week." I completely forgot that he wasn't booked at Mania. I know the card was absolutely stacked, but wasn't Hurricane the #2 merch guy in the company at the time? They couldn't fit him ANYWHERE? I mean, it's not like with Steiner who was abysmal in 2 back-to-back payperview main events and left off the card. This is someone who was doing a lot for the company in terms of both crowd reaction and merchandise sales. How was he not utilized? Hey now! Who needs rasslin' when we can have the Miller Lite catfight girls!?
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