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Post by Mike Wooster on Feb 10, 2013 22:33:02 GMT -5
I prefer the first movie over the second by a huge margin. As others said, The Terminator felt like a smart horror movie. T2 was goofy schlock.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 0:26:53 GMT -5
I think T2 was probably more entertaining overall, but T1 was the better film. Cameron got REALLY sloppy with the dialogue and stuff in the second one. "I know now why you cry," said the Terminator. blech. You bastard that's the probably the saddest line I've ever heard in a movie. Some favorite facts: Cameron was inspired to create The Terminator by a nightmare he had when he was sick. The morning after he sketched a picture of a robot skeleton-torso crawling across the ground with a pair of knives. Arnold didn't want to play the Terminator itself originally-he wanted to be the hero, Reese, because the hero had more lines and camera time. During Reese's nightmare where he remembers being attacked by a terminator in his own time, the terminator was played by Arnold's longtime bodybuilding chum Franco Columbo. The sound the T 1000 makes when it moves through the bars was made by a can of dog food. And on a personal note, that scene from the second one of Linda Hamilton doing pull ups-DAY-YUM, dose arms! I thought the story went was James Cameron wanted someone smaller to play The Terminator and Arnold as the hero but Arnold was the one who convinced James Cameron to play The Terminator.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Feb 11, 2013 1:29:34 GMT -5
I think T2 was probably more entertaining overall, but T1 was the better film. Cameron got REALLY sloppy with the dialogue and stuff in the second one. "I know now why you cry," said the Terminator. blech. You bastard that's the probably the saddest line I've ever heard in a movie. Some favorite facts: Cameron was inspired to create The Terminator by a nightmare he had when he was sick. The morning after he sketched a picture of a robot skeleton-torso crawling across the ground with a pair of knives. Arnold didn't want to play the Terminator itself originally-he wanted to be the hero, Reese, because the hero had more lines and camera time. During Reese's nightmare where he remembers being attacked by a terminator in his own time, the terminator was played by Arnold's longtime bodybuilding chum Franco Columbo. The sound the T 1000 makes when it moves through the bars was made by a can of dog food. And on a personal note, that scene from the second one of Linda Hamilton doing pull ups-DAY-YUM, dose arms! I thought the story went was James Cameron wanted someone smaller to play The Terminator and Arnold as the hero but Arnold was the one who convinced James Cameron to play The Terminator. Arnold Auditioned to play Reese but he wanted to play the terminator and Cameron wanted him to be the Terminator so they made the swap after talking about it, Lance Hendrikson was supposed to the Terminator
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 11, 2013 2:17:07 GMT -5
I liked the first one more than the second one, but the second one is great, too... it's almost the exact way that I look at Alien and Aliens. See I'm the opposite. I prefer 2 and Aliens, but still love the hell out of 1 and Alien.
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 11, 2013 10:48:06 GMT -5
I think T2 was probably more entertaining overall, but T1 was the better film. Cameron got REALLY sloppy with the dialogue and stuff in the second one. "I know now why you cry," said the Terminator. blech. You bastard that's the probably the saddest line I've ever heard in a movie. Some favorite facts: Cameron was inspired to create The Terminator by a nightmare he had when he was sick. The morning after he sketched a picture of a robot skeleton-torso crawling across the ground with a pair of knives. Arnold didn't want to play the Terminator itself originally-he wanted to be the hero, Reese, because the hero had more lines and camera time. During Reese's nightmare where he remembers being attacked by a terminator in his own time, the terminator was played by Arnold's longtime bodybuilding chum Franco Columbo. The sound the T 1000 makes when it moves through the bars was made by a can of dog food. And on a personal note, that scene from the second one of Linda Hamilton doing pull ups-DAY-YUM, dose arms! I thought the story went was James Cameron wanted someone smaller to play The Terminator and Arnold as the hero but Arnold was the one who convinced James Cameron to play The Terminator. Not exactly. Arnold was suggested to Cameron to play the hero, but Cameron was not interested. He agreed to meet Arnold to decide, and planned to pick a fight with him to discourage him. But Arnold won him over, and Cameron came away convinced that he was wrong for the hero, but would be excellent as the terminator itself. Arnold was not enthused by the idea; while he was working on the first Conan movie, he brought some props and costume pieces to practice with between filming, and when he was asked on the set what it was all for he declared "Some shit movie I'm making."
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Post by Bam Neeley on Feb 11, 2013 11:15:29 GMT -5
1. Then 2.
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Post by Thunderbolt on Feb 11, 2013 12:34:16 GMT -5
I also prefer the first one. I even like the stop motion effects better than the effects in T2; they're somehow creepier.
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Post by Bones58 on Feb 11, 2013 16:21:42 GMT -5
I would pay for admission purely for the future scenes. Cameron's vision of the future was perfection.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Feb 11, 2013 17:36:38 GMT -5
I would pay for admission purely for the future scenes. Cameron's vision of the future was perfection. you mean Harlan Ellison's vision of the future was perfection
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Post by SeVeN: #TheBadGuy. on Feb 11, 2013 20:04:38 GMT -5
Terminator 2 was my favorite movie from the time it came out, onward. Up until a few years ago I couldn't watch the end... Its still a tear jerker.
However as I got older and watched the first one more, it took the number one spot. Its so dark, and gritty feeling. The characters are more believable and the terminator is just badarse.
The 3rd and fourth are just kind of....there. Didn't love them but they're good in there own way.
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Post by mike2789 on Feb 13, 2013 9:59:09 GMT -5
I love both. When I was younger I loved T2. But like many others have stated, I started to fall in love with T1 as I got older. T1 has the gritty feel to it. You felt for the characters and wanted to see them get away. While in T2 I felt that the characters were always safe. I love BOTH
As for T3, I take it for what it is. I find it entertaining, but it is not in the same league as T1 or T3
For T4, I watched it again recently and I have started to enjoy it much more. Certain aspects of it were fantastic and others were not. I like Sam Worthington in it, but Bale was kind of BLAH. I want them to make another with Arnold in it.
It could be a direct sequel to T4 and continue the war. Arnold could be a soldier who was captured by the machines and it shows how they copied his facial features to be a Terminator (I know in the deleted scenes they show this in T3 which was way too funny)
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Post by The Tim Duncan Experience on Feb 13, 2013 11:13:28 GMT -5
T2 is a movie I can watch on a loop and never get tired of (same goes with ID4). T1 I like because as others stated, it was those events that turned Sarah Connor into the badass in T2.
I don't know if I'm in the minority with this, but I absolutely loved Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. Maybe it was because of Summer Glau, Lena Headey, and the return of BAG, but the way it tried to incorporate the mythos by dismissing the event from T3 was great.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2013 13:18:37 GMT -5
T2 is still probably my favorite movie of all time. It was my favorite movie of my childhood and still is. Everything about that movie was perfect. I love the first Terminator as well and the low budget of the first movie compared to the second makes you really appreciate both Terminator movies and James Cameron even more.
Plus it's amazing how well the CGI special effects still hold up today. It has really aged well.
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 13, 2013 13:25:57 GMT -5
I also prefer the first one. I even like the stop motion effects better than the effects in T2; they're somehow creepier. It added a purely robotic jerkiness. Everything in T1 even down the the side effects of the special effects helped portray the Soulless Killing Machine. It was both Human and the Anti-Human at the same time. Beautiful contrast.
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