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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 7, 2013 17:52:10 GMT -5
Admittedly I'm not an Aqua Man expert at all so I may be ill informed, but unless he can walk around on dry land and function in society as a normal human in between his Oceanic adventures he's best used as some other superheroes Naval support system. In the interest of finding out how uninformed that I am, can he function on dry land? If so he should be the World's leading Marine Biologist. he can. he needs periodic contact with water to survive, but he's fully capable of walking around on land. hell, because his body's conditioned to function at the deepest depths of the ocean, he has enhanced strength, speed and endurance on par with Wonder Woman, and he can leap over tall buildings ala Superman. it's not that his powers ONLY function in water, it's just where they work best. |
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Post by Sc on Mar 7, 2013 18:07:26 GMT -5
Admittedly I'm not an Aqua Man expert at all so I may be ill informed, but unless he can walk around on dry land and function in society as a normal human in between his Oceanic adventures he's best used as some other superheroes Naval support system. In the interest of finding out how uninformed that I am, can he function on dry land? If so he should be the World's leading Marine Biologist. Well, he's not a mermaid. He still has superpowers on land, it's just that his unique ones require water. Without water, he's basically a less powerful version of a standard Superhero. Strength, reflexes, agility, etc. Also, he has a magical trident. He also has this sort of Superman-Yellow Sun dichotomy with water and has to return there after a while or he will weaken. Fire is another weakness of his (yes, a water-type that's weak against fire-types) but he has telepathy and bullet-proof skin. |
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Post by Toxik916 on Mar 7, 2013 18:08:21 GMT -5
I'm not into comics at all and I think all super heroes are pretty lame, but from the little I've seen of Aquaman he seems to be the wackest super hero ever. So from a nonfan's point of view I don't see how this movie could ever make money from the general public.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 7, 2013 18:25:37 GMT -5
I dunno. I know they'd want to go with the dark, grim, and gritty one handed version with the long hair and beard, but to tell the truth, my favorite version of Aquaman was the one used in Brave and the Bold. He was a happier kinda guy, and reminded me more of Hercules from Marvel. I doubt that version would change people's opinions from what they are now, but that's the version I'd rather see, personally. To me the B&tB Aquaman was kind of like Beowulf, if Beowulf's bullshit boasting tales were real. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 7, 2013 18:28:46 GMT -5
I'm not into comics at all and I think all super heroes are pretty lame, but from the little I've seen of Aquaman he seems to be the wackest super hero ever. So from a nonfan's point of view I don't see how this movie could ever make money from the general public. I actually really like getting this kind of perspective. you have to think about making new fans when you go about making a movie like this, otherwise you end up with movies like Green Lantern, a movie made for people who were already fans and no-one else. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 7, 2013 18:30:16 GMT -5
I think making a purely Aquaman movie would be a hard sell. Not just for public perception,but also the fact that, well, he's an ocean based hero. He's having adventures under water, where we don't live. There's plenty to work with in his superpowers to make him look badass, but convincing the public to see a movie about a guy who swims around for the entire thing would be pretty difficult. If it was as part of a Justice League movie, then it could. But I don't see Aquaman as a starring role. The thing is Aquaman loves the surface world too and spends a lot of time out of the water too. To pigeonhole an Aquaman film entirely to the sea would be a grave mistake. |
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Post by The OP on Mar 7, 2013 18:31:05 GMT -5
I'd hope they wouldn't just turn him into a Namor rip-off like they did on Superman: TAS. I know I keep mentioning it, but it was just so blatant.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 18:32:51 GMT -5
Of course it could. I think there's more love and respect out there for Aquaman than we believe. The popular belief is that "HURR HE'S LAME AND TALKS TO FISH DURR!" but if you bother to either think about him or look at what's done with him (ok let's not look at Brave & the Bold for a serious non-comedic take)....he's pretty badass. Geoff Johns has done wonders with him in both JUSTICE LEAGUE and his own ongoing book. It'd be a hefty chore for a director and filmmaking team - bringing Atlantis to life, doing all the underwater stuff in a realistic/non-bizarre fashion, and making sure not to rely too much on doing everything on the land because it's easier to film - but I think it could be done. Cripes, James Cameron, just get away from Avatar Land and do an Aquaman movie for real. You'd be beloved by a whole new world, sir.  |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 7, 2013 18:34:31 GMT -5
I think making a purely Aquaman movie would be a hard sell. Not just for public perception,but also the fact that, well, he's an ocean based hero. He's having adventures under water, where we don't live. There's plenty to work with in his superpowers to make him look badass, but convincing the public to see a movie about a guy who swims around for the entire thing would be pretty difficult. If it was as part of a Justice League movie, then it could. But I don't see Aquaman as a starring role. The thing is Aquaman loves the surface world too and spends a lot of time out of the water too. To pigeonhole an Aquaman film entirely to the sea would be a grave mistake. especially because, at least until recent developments, he and Mera were living in a lighthouse at a seaside town. putting Arthur back in a more urban setting humanized him a lot, which was something he really needed. don't get me wrong, I love the "King of the Sea" stuff, but its not as relateable for most people. it's kind of like when they have Wonder Woman write a book, or have Superman and Jimmy go buy a few franks and take in a ballgame, it reminds you that they're human. it also gave us the hilarious bit where Arthur goes to a restaurant his dad used to take him to, orders Fish and Chips and has people freak out that Aquaman's eating fish. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 7, 2013 18:37:19 GMT -5
Of course it could. I think there's more love and respect out there for Aquaman than we believe. The popular belief is that "HURR HE'S LAME AND TALKS TO FISH DURR!" but if you bother to either think about him or look at what's done with him (ok let's not look at Brave & the Bold for a serious non-comedic take)....he's pretty badass. Geoff Johns has done wonders with him in both JUSTICE LEAGUE and his own ongoing book. It'd be a hefty chore for a director and filmmaking team - bringing Atlantis to life, doing all the underwater stuff in a realistic/non-bizarre fashion, and making sure not to rely too much on doing everything on the land because it's easier to film - but I think it could be done. Cripes, James Cameron, just get away from Avatar Land and do an Aquaman movie for real. You'd be beloved by a whole new world, sir. Actually James Cameron would be PERFECT for an Aquaman film. You would need lots of CGI for an Aquaman film, and Cameron is the est in the business at using that right now. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 7, 2013 18:40:51 GMT -5
The thing is Aquaman loves the surface world too and spends a lot of time out of the water too. To pigeonhole an Aquaman film entirely to the sea would be a grave mistake. especially because, at least until recent developments, he and Mera were living in a lighthouse at a seaside town. putting Arthur back in a more urban setting humanized him a lot, which was something he really needed. don't get me wrong, I love the "King of the Sea" stuff, but its not as relateable for most people. it's kind of like when they have Wonder Woman write a book, or have Superman and Jimmy go buy a few franks and take in a ballgame, it reminds you that they're human. it also gave us the hilarious bit where Arthur goes to a restaurant his dad used to take him to, orders Fish and Chips and has people freak out that Aquaman's eating fish. It would be hilarious if they somehow adapted that scene to film and Aquaman's like, "I knew this fish. His name was Frank." *Aquaman takes a big bite out of Frank* "Damn Frank, you're delicious!" |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 7, 2013 18:42:31 GMT -5
he also pointed out that he doesn't actually talk with fish. he telepathically commands sea-life, most of whom are too dumb to have any kind of conversation with.
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Post by Sc on Mar 7, 2013 18:43:12 GMT -5
I think making a purely Aquaman movie would be a hard sell. Not just for public perception,but also the fact that, well, he's an ocean based hero. He's having adventures under water, where we don't live. There's plenty to work with in his superpowers to make him look badass, but convincing the public to see a movie about a guy who swims around for the entire thing would be pretty difficult. If it was as part of a Justice League movie, then it could. But I don't see Aquaman as a starring role. The thing is Aquaman loves the surface world too and spends a lot of time out of the water too. To pigeonhole an Aquaman film entirely to the sea would be a grave mistake. Also, when Aquaman is on land he has super powers, when he is in Atlantis he is Batman with out the gadgets. |
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 7, 2013 19:43:58 GMT -5
I think making a purely Aquaman movie would be a hard sell. Not just for public perception,but also the fact that, well, he's an ocean based hero. He's having adventures under water, where we don't live. There's plenty to work with in his superpowers to make him look badass, but convincing the public to see a movie about a guy who swims around for the entire thing would be pretty difficult. If it was as part of a Justice League movie, then it could. But I don't see Aquaman as a starring role. The thing is Aquaman loves the surface world too and spends a lot of time out of the water too. To pigeonhole an Aquaman film entirely to the sea would be a grave mistake. I never said it had to be entirely ocean, but you have to admit that the most interesting elements of his powers are all ocean based. Without that part of him, he's just a less effective Superman who can't fly. To really make people take him seriously, especially if you're leading to or having him in a Justice League movie, then you have to show off what he is best at, and that requires the ocean. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 7, 2013 19:48:29 GMT -5
The thing is Aquaman loves the surface world too and spends a lot of time out of the water too. To pigeonhole an Aquaman film entirely to the sea would be a grave mistake. I never said it had to be entirely ocean, but you have to admit that the most interesting elements of his powers are all ocean based. Without that part of him, he's just a less effective Superman who can't fly. To really make people take him seriously, especially if you're leading to or having him in a Justice League movie, then you have to show off what he is best at, and that requires the ocean. The only thing he does in water he theoretically can't do on land is command of sea life. As already pointed out, he's pretty much the average Atlantean under water, phycially, but on land his body makes him "super powered". |
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 7, 2013 20:18:49 GMT -5
I never said it had to be entirely ocean, but you have to admit that the most interesting elements of his powers are all ocean based. Without that part of him, he's just a less effective Superman who can't fly. To really make people take him seriously, especially if you're leading to or having him in a Justice League movie, then you have to show off what he is best at, and that requires the ocean. The only thing he does in water he theoretically can't do on land is command of sea life. As already pointed out, he's pretty much the average Atlantean under water, phycially, but on land his body makes him "super powered". And it's commanding sea life (as well as the boost his body gets from being underwater) that makes him unique. Yes, he has powers on land, he has the same strength and agility and resilience that pretty much everyone in the DC universe has. He's just not special there, and when you put him up against other heroes, whether comparing him to other movies or as part of an ensemble like in the Justice League, he needs the water to be memorable. |
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Mar 7, 2013 20:27:46 GMT -5
The only thing he does in water he theoretically can't do on land is command of sea life. As already pointed out, he's pretty much the average Atlantean under water, phycially, but on land his body makes him "super powered". And it's commanding sea life (as well as the boost his body gets from being underwater) that makes him unique. Yes, he has powers on land, he has the same strength and agility and resilience that pretty much everyone in the DC universe has. He's just not special there, and when you put him up against other heroes, whether comparing him to other movies or as part of an ensemble like in the Justice League, he needs the water to be memorable. Which is why the Aquaman movie would take place at some coastal city. You get both Aquaman in the water and Aquaman on land. |
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 7, 2013 20:43:41 GMT -5
And regardless, I just don't see a movie about a hero where his best and most unique features require him to be under water doing well enough to turn public opinion. He's just not going to stand out among superheroes except for the part of him that's not that relateable to everyone else.
I think, if they made a solo Aquaman movie, it'd be less successful than even Green Lantern was, and if they put him in a Justice League lineup, it'd be very hard to make him stand out without some plot dedicated to doing so.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 7, 2013 20:50:51 GMT -5
They could probably do something like The Trench, where Aquaman's percieved lameness is a part of the story. Plus it would be an easy story to develop Aquaman more with the trench monsters not needing much time for development.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Mar 8, 2013 0:03:44 GMT -5
I just wanted to add that I saw the pilot episode of the TV series, where they were trying to do a "Smallville" version of Aquaman... and thought it was pretty good. There was a little camp in it but it was still serious enough of a treatment that I thought it would have worked for a season or two.
Shame they didn't run with it.
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