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Post by Glitch on Mar 8, 2013 21:27:00 GMT -5
1.) I will always enjoy TNA over wwe. As bad as tna can get, it will at least feature more wrestling.
2.) Sting deserves the same praise as Hogan and The Rock. If he had worked for Vince, he'd be treated as such.
3.) As somebody else mentioned, Wrestling Society X was fun. It was a completely different looking fed and would have prospered if mtv didn't have the "cancel a show if it isn't an instant success" attitude. It was entertaining if you gave it chance and weren't hung up on it "not being traditional".
4.) I loved Woman of Wrestling and wish somebody else was in charge of financing. Just like wsx, the angles weren't a clusterf*** like wcw and wwe had at the time. Plus faces and heels were effective in their roles. Also, unlike the divas, you had several different type of women.
5.) I didn't enjoy any of the wwf's stuff in 2000. They were kicking wcw's ass, but only because wcw was just terrible. Not because they did anything great.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Mar 8, 2013 21:40:24 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan is the most overrated wrestler of all time. I want him off my TV and I especially want the fanboys to stop praising every little f***ing thing he has done or ever will do.
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Chip
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Chip on Mar 8, 2013 21:45:59 GMT -5
Chikara bores me outside of YouTube clips of ridiculous spots and SHIMMER is mediocre overall with the exception of a few wrestlers there worth watching. HBK is severely over-rated as a performer having near no notable and iconic promos. Ric Flair just flat out sucks, his promos all sound the same and the Flair-flop is really dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2013 21:57:28 GMT -5
Wade Barrett bores me.
While I think Christian's perfectly solid, I don't see what it is about him that makes him so popular.
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MolotovMocktail
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 8, 2013 22:02:03 GMT -5
-I enjoyed Triple H's reign of Terror, and except for RVD and Booker T, was glad he beat everyone he did.
-Goldberg is the most overrated wrestler in the history of the business.
-The Divas division is beyond saving. Just scrap it.
-The brand split was a short-term solution to a stacked roster, but only ended up hurting the WWE over time.
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Celgress
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by Celgress on Mar 8, 2013 22:03:50 GMT -5
1.) CM Punk is vastly overrated both on the mic & in the ring, and any good talker could have ran with the "pipe bomb gimmick".
2.) Katlyn is a terrible wrestler, and isn't getting any better.
3.) AJ Lee is only super popular because her character is in essence a whore.
4.) HHH is one of the best of all time, especially as a heel.
5.) I still mark for Sheamus & Miz.
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MolotovMocktail
Grimlock
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Mar 8, 2013 22:06:39 GMT -5
I hated the 24/7 rule with the Hardcore Title. It was fun at first, but once they started doing it at house shows, it became one of the most worthless titles in the history of wrestling.
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Post by dlg3000 on Mar 8, 2013 22:11:44 GMT -5
- Trish Stratus came a long way in terms of wrestling ability in a short time, but I think that Layla is far more underrated than Trish is. - Eve Torres was the best of the modern Divas in terms of skill except maybe for Michelle McCool and Layla. - I find much of modern Japanese wrestling boring. - I loved WOW, Women of wrestling. It was fun to watch and poor David McLaine does the best he could with trying to get women's wrestling to be more focused on yet he fails at it because a lot of the gimmicks seemed a bit outdated. - I must don't know a whole lot about bad wrestling but I don't find Brodus Clay all that bad. He isn't as good as say, the Big Show, Undertaker, or even Kane, but he is solid enough in the ring. - I sometimes wonder if wrestling fans are anymore shallow than other fans because if Randy Orton wasn't so hot he would not be in the upper card or main eventing. He needs a change up. Would he even be hired by the WWE if he were highly overweight or considered a decent enough wrestler if he didn't look like a model? My point is, some wrestling fans, and unfortunately myself judge on a wrestler's looks too much. I grew up on wrestling performers having all different types of looks and usually I get all self-righteous about a wrestler's appearance. Sadly, I have been and I wish I hadn't. Orton can be boring, but at least he is a solid wrestler.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Mar 8, 2013 22:19:45 GMT -5
I like both TNA and the WWE...at the same time.
I don't want TNA to fail. I don't want any company to fail.
Women's wrestling can be as awesome as men's wrestling, they just don't get as much time or attention. A lot of them deserve it though.
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willyjakes
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Post by willyjakes on Mar 8, 2013 22:20:09 GMT -5
Eddie Guerrero was nothing special.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Mar 8, 2013 22:35:23 GMT -5
-A wrestler who's limited in the ring but who has a unique, memorable gimmick is a hell of a lot more entertaining than a wrestler with a bland, paint-by-numbers persona who can put on impressive matches.
-There are wrestlers who I can't take seriously as stars because they're too short and/or skinny. Oddly enough, Rey Mysterio isn't one of them, probably because he actually works his matches around the idea that he's much tinier than his opponent.
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Post by jimmyjames on Mar 9, 2013 0:29:50 GMT -5
I don't like The Shield, and don't understand all the love for them.
I think current CM Punk sucks and is boring and predictable.
Overall, I think TNA is better than WWE.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Mar 9, 2013 1:01:28 GMT -5
The WWE product has been succeeding on its brand name far more than its actual product for the better part of a decade and only because people at-large will easily digest something they know the name of.
The Undertaker is a Top 10 all-time talent.
Also...AJ is NOT attractive.
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Post by slappy on Mar 9, 2013 1:02:16 GMT -5
-I enjoyed Triple H's reign of Terror, and except for RVD and Booker T, was glad he beat everyone he did. -Goldberg is the most overrated wrestler in the history of the business. I agree mostly with your first one. I really enjoyed it and honestly wish he would have held the title from when he was awarded it in September 2002 until he faced Batista at WrestleMania 21 in April 2005. I feel there was no reason he should have dropped the title to anyone during that time and no one that did hold the title during that time should have held it. And I strongly agree with the second one. I do not like Goldberg at all. Never did, not in WCW and not in WWE.
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metylerca
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Post by metylerca on Mar 9, 2013 1:11:22 GMT -5
I like to let things play out a little while before declaring them broken.
I don't use my own past disappointments with storylines as an excuse to say a current angle will not end up well.
I liked the Reign of Terror.
Chikara and most indies out there aren't really as great as they're made out to be.
I came to the above conclusion only after watching hours and hours of indie wrestling over the course of 4 years.
John Cena is the best thing going for WWE.
3MB and Primetime Players just aren't that interesting.
Kaitlyn isn't really that attractive.
If given a push, Tyson Kidd still probably wouldn't get too far in terms of overness. There's just something about his personality that lacks for me.
Bray Wyatt is one of those characters who will be called up, fail, and get repackaged again.
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Post by jimmyjames on Mar 9, 2013 1:40:27 GMT -5
I like women's wrestling.
I think Vince McMahon loves wrestling and the wrestling business.
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El Pollo Guerrera
Grimlock
His name has chicken in it, and he is good at makin' .gifs, so that's cool.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Mar 9, 2013 1:40:46 GMT -5
I know that this particular opinion will get me trouble with the fans of puroresu, but I've thought about it for a while and have come to the realization...
Hayabusa wasn't that good.
He was good at pulling off a couple of great-looking high flyer moves, but other than that, I believe he was below average.
I know that a lot of wrestling fans hate Rob Van Dam because of his in-ring sloppiness. Hayabusa was Japan's RVD.
*ducks and runs for cover*
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Mar 9, 2013 1:44:47 GMT -5
1. Vince destroying the territories was the worst thing to happen to the sport and art form of wrestling. All of the criticism leveled at the product and performers of this day and age can be traced back to a lack of competition between wrestling companies. There was no "WWE style" in the 80's (or at least, not as much as today) because everyone on the card back then cut their teeth in the "corrupt" territories than many here feel deserved to have gotten their asses kicked by Vince. Hulk Hogan was a wrestler who does not get he credit he deserves for being more diverse than he is given credit for. Why was he (and others) so diverse? He learned his crafted going from territory to territory, which you don't have today.
2. Bret Hart was justified in refusing to put HBK over at Survivor Series '97. Besides all Shawn did was keep the belt warm for Austin. Anybody else on the roster could have done that.
3. Shane Douglas is more entertaining, to me, than Ric Flair.
4. The history of wrestling is too dominated by the US south.
5. You want to make pro wrestling matter again? Can the "sports entertainment" and make it look like a real sport where wins and losses matter and the consequences in the context of the angles matter.
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Post by thegame415 on Mar 9, 2013 1:54:42 GMT -5
I agree with Triple H beating CM Punk at Night of Champions.
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Post by celticjobber on Mar 9, 2013 2:16:27 GMT -5
Hayabusa was Japan's RVD. I think of him more as Japan's Sabu.
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