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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2013 14:05:49 GMT -5
Go back and check out some NXT Redemption I'm talking about in this gimmick. I watched him in NXT and I thought he was sorta bland there honestly. Solid but bland. I'm gonna guess you saw him on NXT 4, because the Johnny Curtis we got on NXT Redemption was the opposite of bland.
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Apr 12, 2013 14:51:40 GMT -5
He has said in interviews it was by far his most popular/over gimmick when he was in the indies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2013 15:40:25 GMT -5
Extreme antisocial attacks on Jericho, tied in with narcissistic behaviour, and not caring what people think of him for it. But he *does* care what people think, hence the constant correction of his name's pronunciation and him getting irritated by Jericho's trolling. He's - IMHO - not a sociopath but a psychopath. I can see what you mean, but I think it's more that he's bothered about people not agreeing to his own perception & wants, it's not a matter of caring what other people think so much as he hates people getting something wrong which is so obvious to him, so the one guy who actively and purposely incorrectly pronounced his name is continually being jumped. Matches up with the narcissism too. And I just realised how bafflingly good this discussion is on a wrestling forum. Fandango is fantastic.
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Post by avenger on Apr 13, 2013 18:23:28 GMT -5
Extreme antisocial attacks on Jericho, tied in with narcissistic behaviour, and not caring what people think of him for it. I know in wrestling that is half the guys though, but it seems sociopathic enough to me, especially with his demeanour changing from his promo coldness towards interviewers etc. "Say my name right or I'll hurt you and cost you." Then again, he only attacks Jericho and that can be justified because Jericho goes far and beyond to mock his name. Fandango isn't hurting everyone who doesn't say his name right, he's just attacking Jericho because he won't stand and take the jokes going his way. He's not a sociopath, he's a condescending guy who gets angry when people mock him for playing straight the fact that he has a silly name. But he didn't just attack Jericho. He interrupted a Jericho interview, having planted the seed in Jericho's mind (and that of the audience) that he doesn't like his name being pronounced wrong - knowing that Jericho has a history of prnouncing names incorrectly. But has he chosen to plant that seed (and if you look at one of the Fandango vignettes, he just pronounces it straight Fan-dan-go, rather than Faaan-daaan-gooo) just to target Jericho and make an impact by attacking a guy that has won it all?
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Post by Hurbster on Apr 13, 2013 20:06:03 GMT -5
Well, Fandango doesn't work for me, I'm afraid.
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Post by Beast Army Ass on Apr 13, 2013 21:53:53 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't know if I would use the term "sociopath" with regards to Fandango, since if he's getting irate from people mispronouncing his name, that's caring about how others view him and all. Sociopaths straight up don't give a f*** what happens around them.
I would say the OP is a solid analysis on what makes him work - I took it as the fact that Johnny Curtis is committing to this 100% that it goes from "crappy gimmick" to something more. Fandango is a ballroom dancer as much as Goldust is a movie star/critic, and really that's why I'm digging this so far. Hopefully things keep looking up.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Apr 14, 2013 2:35:21 GMT -5
Sometimes it's just fun to enjoy something that's purely just a WRESTLING GIMMICK. Remember that feeling you had when they started announcing 'Taker as being from Death Valley again?
"Yeah, he's a ballroom dancer, and he's also a wrestler. Why wouldn't he be?" It's kind of like Chikara, on the Indies, where you find yourself thinking wrestling ants are awesome.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 14, 2013 10:51:33 GMT -5
I think it's truly the first gimmick who has gotten over solely on post-modern grounds.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 15:11:10 GMT -5
I was very frosty towards Fandango until he got the royal tar kicked out of him by Jericho but still hauled his beaten self to the microphone to correct the pronunciation of his name. Really made it clear just how deep his vanity runs.
As for why the character works? I think pro wrestling needs characters like Fandango to differentiate it from MMA. That transition from "unrealistic" to "surrealistic".
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