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Post by Andy Martin on Jun 16, 2013 22:01:23 GMT -5
To say these guys have never had a chance is ridiculous. They had a match just last month that I'd wager 1/2 the arena saw. If they don't like their matches together, why should they give them constant chances, because WWE says so? You said Cena could win them over, but no Ryback talking about the individual wrestlers. Cena's a good worker. Ryback isn't.
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Post by fw91 on Jun 16, 2013 22:01:26 GMT -5
is there a post show?
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Jun 16, 2013 22:01:49 GMT -5
Wasn't a bad show, just might pick this one up when it's on DVD.
Might've been the best Ambulance match I've ever seen. Granted, I've only seen 2 I think...
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Post by mrjl on Jun 16, 2013 22:02:56 GMT -5
Man, I don't even like Ryback but I think the way WWE has handled him in the past seven months is just sabotage. The guy was white-hot with the fans, and they just murdered his character. It's what happens when you write your story so far in advance and rigid it leaves you no room to account for something that really takes off. If Ryback didn't debut in the middle of punks super reign or rock wasn't scheduled for the rumble, Ryback would probably actually have been he champion at this point... Unless Cena wasn't injured at hell in a cell... yeah, they should have just put Kofi or Orton in Rybacks's spot at HiaC. But then the way things developed we might not have gotten the Shield
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Jun 16, 2013 22:34:51 GMT -5
Look on the bright side... maybe they are putting Ryberg through his paces like HBK/ Cena himself just to see if he will break or quit.
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Post by Error on Jun 16, 2013 23:28:18 GMT -5
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 16, 2013 23:59:03 GMT -5
So, nobody turned heel out of either Bryan or Orton last night?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jun 17, 2013 0:01:56 GMT -5
So, nobody turned heel out of either Bryan or Orton last night? According to the crowd, Bryan and Orton are apparently the only babyfaces in the company who didn't turn heel last night.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 17, 2013 0:05:39 GMT -5
So, nobody turned heel out of either Bryan or Orton last night? According to the crowd, Bryan and Orton are apparently the only babyfaces in the company who didn't turn heel last night. Funny how the one match where everyone expected someone to turn heel didn't have anyone turning at all, and the match where no one really paid any mind had the surprise heel turn of the night.
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Post by mrtuesday on Jun 17, 2013 0:13:53 GMT -5
Just got home from the PPV, and it was alright. My main complaint wasn't anything in-ring. The area where I was supposed to sit was taken over by Josh Mathews, Big Show, R-Turth & Cody Rhodes for the pre-show panel. And here's where I ended up. ![](http://imageshack.us/a/img13/3581/7vv4.jpg)
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Post by Urfarkendarf on Jun 17, 2013 0:16:45 GMT -5
Pedestrian PPV. Aside from the title changes, felt like a Raw. The main event was complete crap, but I liked the lumberjacks.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 17, 2013 0:18:45 GMT -5
So, I hear Axel won the IC title by pinning Barrett while Miz had the Figure WTF on Wade.
Shouldn't that be a double pin?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 17, 2013 0:42:46 GMT -5
It's what happens when you write your story so far in advance and rigid it leaves you no room to account for something that really takes off. If Ryback didn't debut in the middle of punks super reign or rock wasn't scheduled for the rumble, Ryback would probably actually have been he champion at this point... Unless Cena wasn't injured at hell in a cell... yeah, they should have just put Kofi or Orton in Rybacks's spot at HiaC. But then the way things developed we might not have gotten the Shield It wasn't just Punk/Rock but a bunch of factors ended up snowballing and hurting Ryback. Cena's injury. The fact that every other face had been jobbed out to hell. Kofi and Miz feuding over the IC Title, and they didn't pull the trigger on Miz's face turn yet. WWE's need to have every "important" person on EVERY show. If Orton were put in the match, Del Rio would've been the odd man out and that wasn't going to happen. Imo, the Shield was part of the problem as well. They were brought up specifically to keep the belt on Punk without making Ryback look (too) weak. But I don't think they expected the Shield to get as over as they did, and thus Ryback's momentum was sacrificed to put over the Shield.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 17, 2013 0:44:37 GMT -5
So, I hear Axel won the IC title by pinning Barrett while Miz had the Figure WTF on Wade. Shouldn't that be a double pin? Miz got the shoulders up at 2.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 17, 2013 2:17:11 GMT -5
It's kind of weird that all of the lumberjacks were in their ring gear even though a good deal of them didn't compete, and the ones who DID have matches, wrestled early enough in the show that they could've showered and changed into street clothes.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 17, 2013 3:04:07 GMT -5
So, I hear Axel won the IC title by pinning Barrett while Miz had the Figure WTF on Wade. Shouldn't that be a double pin? Miz got the shoulders up at 2. I think he may have meant that since people have been pinned directly from the figure four before, shouldn't it count as Axel and Miz pinned Barrett at the same time?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 17, 2013 3:04:44 GMT -5
So, I hear Axel won the IC title by pinning Barrett while Miz had the Figure WTF on Wade. Shouldn't that be a double pin? Miz got the shoulders up at 2. Yeah, Barrett's shoulders were down, but Miz would also be pinning Barrett's shoulders as well. Call it the WCW Uncensored '99 rule (without the First Blood wackiness, at least).
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 17, 2013 6:10:12 GMT -5
Miz let go of the Figure Four to try and break up the pin at like 2.
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Post by Gwak on Jun 17, 2013 6:48:33 GMT -5
So all I derived out of the Main Event was that Chicago Ambulance Cars fall apart rather easily.
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Post by Dang! on Jun 17, 2013 7:02:47 GMT -5
That was a strange PPV. Maybe it was a "catering to smarks"-PPV, but it was quite unlike any usual big league PPV: the line between faces and heels was blurred and heels went over clean. Yes, CenawonLOL, but the rest was very weird.
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