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Post by gnr123 on Jul 15, 2013 14:49:50 GMT -5
The thing is though, if this guy is legit it ruins the interest of the show when people know about the results hour's beforehand. And just like someone else said, what if he begins to spoil the shows day's beforehand? Then it's going to be on Reddit, on here, on other wrestling forums, and maybe even social websites like Facebook or Twitter, way before the PPV even happens.
And that's the difference, it's a pay per view. Maybe people are paying money to see the show, this isn't like RAW or Smackdown spoilers where the show is free. People are being spoiled during a show they paid for.
I think either the spoiler's have be put more into effect, or there should be a "Spoiler" thread where people can talk about all the spoiler's they want while the PPV thread stay's free of any spoiler's or even people hinting at who's going to win. I'm not usually on the computer during a show, but if it was spoiled that Brock Lesnar was going to beat CM Punk at Summerslam, or Cena was going to beat Bryan, than it would just ruin the show for me.
Like I said before, this a different scenario because of the fact that it's pay per view and I think the more spoiler rules should be put in order if this guy isn't caught soon.
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Post by Chad1m on Jul 15, 2013 14:53:02 GMT -5
And just like someone else said, what if he begins to spoil the shows day's beforehand? You say that as if WWE always knows what's going to happen days beforehand.
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Post by BigWill on Jul 15, 2013 15:04:07 GMT -5
Did you even read this thread? People are talking about others posting spoilers in the PPV discussion thread, ruining the results for people just trying to talk about the live show. That's not where spoilers go. Personally, I kind of assume that any topic having anything at all to do with an event could have spoilers in it, especially day-of. I'm not trying to say "You guys shoulda known better!" but I've never really found spoilers all that hard to avoid, following that system. The PPV thread has always been meant to discuss the live PPV as it goes on. I don't see why people who are following the forum rules should be punished by having to avoid the internet altogether just because a few posters can't keep their mouths shut. Discuss the spoilers in the spoilers thread or just keep the information to yourself. Is that really that hard of a task to follow?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 15:17:07 GMT -5
insane...no way this guy is that accurate on assumptions...No one in there right mind would have predicted Sandow or Orton...If WWE isn't looking into this they are completely inept...The reason he isn't posting spoilers weeks in advance is that WWE is known to change on the fly so he posts them right before the show airs knowing that they wont change the script on him...really hurts the product and is pretty pathetic...I watched the show waiting last night because I knew he was gonna come out right again....I should have been yes!ing and all i was doing was sighing
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 15, 2013 15:25:28 GMT -5
insane...no way this guy is that accurate on assumptions...No one in there right mind would have predicted Sandow or Orton...If WWE isn't looking into this they are completely inept...The reason he isn't posting spoilers weeks in advance is that WWE is known to change on the fly so he posts them right before the show airs knowing that they wont change the script on him...really hurts the product and is pretty pathetic...I watched the show waiting last night because I knew he was gonna come out right again....I should have been yes!ing and all i was doing was sighing I actually read the guy's posts and he says he is not giving 'predictions.' He says he is giving 'results.' He claims to know someone who has a very good contact within WWE. In other words, he knows a guy who knows a guy. Based on his spot-on results, I believe him. He also claims that he and the other two involved WANT WWE to investigate this leak and STOP IT. He wants WWE to be more protective of their PPV plans. He says he will keep posting the results until WWE finally looks into it and tightens up their PPV information. The only result he got wrong was John Cena v. Ryback at Extreme Rules. He gave the result as 'Cena wins' and obviously it was a no contest. However, I think you can give him that one since Cena retained the title.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jul 15, 2013 15:25:38 GMT -5
it's currently being discussed by the mods, how this can be dealt with in regards to our spoilers rule.
obviously the spoiler tag doesnt work on the mobile app but we're powerless in that situation due to it being 100% proboards provided (so no codes can be put in place such as the spoiler tag.) and we cant ask people not to log on for a few hours before and during a ppv, we can ask for people not to post the spoilers in those threads but that can only be dealt with as it happens.
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Post by babyfootball on Jul 15, 2013 15:27:44 GMT -5
I wonder if for a ppv FAN decided to run 2 concurrent on-going reaction/discussion threads, one in which spoilers are okay, the other spoilers being banned (obviously violations quickly and decisively acted upon by mods), which one would turn out more active? Make sure they're clearly marked and everything, so if someone who is actively avoiding spoilers can't claim they were unsuspecting or duped or anything.
Of course, in a situation like this, especially now that Deadspin's got a hold of it, I fear that if it continues, it will be pervasive enough to ruin Summerslam for a reasonably-sized portion of fans, confined to Spoiler threads or not.
I know I was annoyed with myself for clicking on that thread, but it was my own fault. I was, however, able to get a little bit of fun over "calling" Orton to win the Raw MitB with a friend, but for what it's worth, I absolutely had to tell him about the whole thing afterwards and not actually take any credit for it.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jul 15, 2013 15:29:56 GMT -5
I wonder if for a ppv FAN decided to run 2 concurrent on-going reaction/discussion threads, one in which spoilers are okay, the other spoilers being banned (obviously violations quickly and decisively acted upon by mods), which one would turn out more active? Make sure they're clearly marked and everything, so if someone who is actively avoiding spoilers can't claim they were unsuspecting or duped or anything. Of course, in a situation like this, especially now that Deadspin's got a hold of it, I fear that if it continues, it will be pervasive enough to ruin Summerslam for a reasonably-sized portion of fans, confined to Spoiler threads or not. I know I was annoyed with myself for clicking on that thread, but it was my own fault. I was, however, able to get a little bit of fun over "calling" Orton to win the Raw MitB with a friend, but for what it's worth, I absolutely had to tell him about the whole thing afterwards and not actually take any credit for it. dont forget the mods want to watch the ppv's as well at times, having two threads like that effectively doubles the work on the night trying to keep up with everything.
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Post by snopes on Jul 15, 2013 15:31:50 GMT -5
Hopefully this kabroni is Cena and he gets Pete Rose'd from the E. Would be stoked on that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 15:34:12 GMT -5
Wow, people around these parts are really dumb when it comes to spoilers. Firstly, the guy doesn't work for the WWE. He gets his results from someone who does. Even if that's true (and how you could be so sure is puzzling) then the guy that works for the E and is leaking them to this other moron needs to be found out and punished accordingly. So it's really no different a situation. I can be so sure because he said so himself. Wow, people around these parts are really dumb when it comes to spoilers. Firstly, the guy doesn't work for the WWE. He gets his results from someone who does. "Really dumb" in what way? If you don't want a spoiler, don't click the {Spoiler} tags!
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 15, 2013 15:35:03 GMT -5
it's currently being discussed by the mods, how this can be dealt with in regards to our spoilers rule. obviously the spoiler tag doesnt work on the mobile app but we're powerless in that situation due to it being 100% proboards provided (so no codes can be put in place such as the spoiler tag.) and we cant ask people not to log on for a few hours before and during a ppv, we can ask for people not to post the spoilers in those threads but that can only be dealt with as it happens. I wasn't really one of the ones who was spoiled or complaining, but may I suggest having one designated thread in the WWE section for posting and discussing the pre-PPV 'results' by this infamous Reddit user? You could also include discussion of late breaking betting odds before a PPV, which seem to be influenced by individuals in WWE who know the results. This way there is a section for those curious and who want to talk about it and it keeps this information away from those posting in the live PPV event threads who don't want to know this info. Just a courtesy suggestion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 15:35:07 GMT -5
I wonder if for a ppv FAN decided to run 2 concurrent on-going reaction/discussion threads, one in which spoilers are okay, the other spoilers being banned (obviously violations quickly and decisively acted upon by mods), which one would turn out more active? Make sure they're clearly marked and everything, so if someone who is actively avoiding spoilers can't claim they were unsuspecting or duped or anything. Of course, in a situation like this, especially now that Deadspin's got a hold of it, I fear that if it continues, it will be pervasive enough to ruin Summerslam for a reasonably-sized portion of fans, confined to Spoiler threads or not. I know I was annoyed with myself for clicking on that thread, but it was my own fault. I was, however, able to get a little bit of fun over "calling" Orton to win the Raw MitB with a friend, but for what it's worth, I absolutely had to tell him about the whole thing afterwards and not actually take any credit for it. dont forget the mods want to watch the ppv's as well at times, having two threads like that effectively doubles the work on the night trying to keep up with everything. Appoint temps? Surely there's people here who are trusted for regulating discussion enough that they could be brought in as moderators in a pinch?
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jul 15, 2013 15:47:53 GMT -5
dont forget the mods want to watch the ppv's as well at times, having two threads like that effectively doubles the work on the night trying to keep up with everything. Appoint temps? Surely there's people here who are trusted for regulating discussion enough that they could be brought in as moderators in a pinch? again while there are posters like that, who would want to give up watching the ppv every month for abosolutely no gain? it's currently being discussed by the mods, how this can be dealt with in regards to our spoilers rule. obviously the spoiler tag doesnt work on the mobile app but we're powerless in that situation due to it being 100% proboards provided (so no codes can be put in place such as the spoiler tag.) and we cant ask people not to log on for a few hours before and during a ppv, we can ask for people not to post the spoilers in those threads but that can only be dealt with as it happens. I wasn't really one of the ones who was spoiled or complaining, but may I suggest having one designated thread in the WWE section for posting and discussing the pre-PPV 'results' by this infamous Reddit user? You could also include discussion of late breaking bedding odds before a PPV, which seem to be influenced by individuals in WWE who know the results. This way there is a section for those curious and who want to talk about it and it keeps this information away from those posting in the live PPV event threads who don't want to know this info. Just a courtesy suggestion. still creates twice as much hassle, spoilers easily escape a single thread, ask any poster from the uk who was here at the time about the sopranos ending, we were two weeks behind and had everything spoiled in sigs & threads not relating to that show. having said that as long as a thread is marked as a spoiler with no actual spoilers in the title isnt against the rules, but please be thoughtfull of other posters with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2013 15:58:40 GMT -5
Appoint temps? Surely there's people here who are trusted for regulating discussion enough that they could be brought in as moderators in a pinch? again while there are posters like that, who would want to give up watching the ppv every month for abosolutely no gain? I don't watch anyway, so I wouldn't mind. I'm sure there's plenty of people here besides me who would be interested in doing it, too. It'd be an interesting experiment if it actually happened; we've never had duplicate threads used for this before.
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Post by Lancers on Jul 15, 2013 16:04:29 GMT -5
There's a Deadspin piece up right now about this guy that pretty much entails the whole story if anyone's interested in reading. The more this redditor's spoilers are discussed outside of wrestling circles, the quicker the WWE will nip this in the bud.
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Post by Error on Jul 15, 2013 16:10:00 GMT -5
Even if that's true (and how you could be so sure is puzzling) then the guy that works for the E and is leaking them to this other moron needs to be found out and punished accordingly. So it's really no different a situation. I can be so sure because he said so himself. "Really dumb" in what way? If you don't want a spoiler, don't click the {Spoiler} tags! If you'd bothered to have read, you'd see where the spoiler tags don't work for people on mobile devices.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Jul 15, 2013 16:32:56 GMT -5
It would be great if people would avoid threads that pretty much explicitly state there were spoilers inside so that the rest of us didn't have to hear complaints about the show being spoiled for days on end. Did you even read this thread? People are talking about others posting spoilers in the PPV discussion thread, ruining the results for people just trying to talk about the live show. That's not where spoilers go. Yes, I did read and the thread. And I read the other threads about the Reddit spoiler there all the same load of complaints. They weren't spoilers technically, they were posted as predictions and should've been taken as such until they were confirmed as spoilers.
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Post by CM Dazz on Jul 15, 2013 16:52:16 GMT -5
Personally, I kind of assume that any topic having anything at all to do with an event could have spoilers in it, especially day-of. I'm not trying to say "You guys shoulda known better!" but I've never really found spoilers all that hard to avoid, following that system. The PPV thread has always been meant to discuss the live PPV as it goes on. I don't see why people who are following the forum rules should be punished by having to avoid the internet altogether just because a few posters can't keep their mouths shut. Discuss the spoilers in the spoilers thread or just keep the information to yourself. Is that really that hard of a task to follow? Exactly it's currently being discussed by the mods, how this can be dealt with in regards to our spoilers rule. obviously the spoiler tag doesnt work on the mobile app but we're powerless in that situation due to it being 100% proboards provided (so no codes can be put in place such as the spoiler tag.) and we cant ask people not to log on for a few hours before and during a ppv, we can ask for people not to post the spoilers in those threads but that can only be dealt with as it happens. You guys have a tough job here, I get it. It's my choice to use the App, with all the good & bad it comes with. All I'm asking, along with a few others, is for people to keep the spoilers in the specific thread, & not post them in the PPV threads. Will that solve the problem 100%? No, because some people just don't care. It would certainly help though.
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Post by Reflecto on Jul 15, 2013 16:58:41 GMT -5
This is really the issue as well. Right now, the claims said they wanted WWE to be less predictable as well- which is hard since three of results SHOULD have surprised people [the MITB matches and the ADR/Ziggler double-turn should have BEEN unpredictable moments, if not for that change.] Adding the "twist" part for ADR made him legit, but it also took what could have been predictable out of place.
As it stands, this guy will likely be in place at the time in question- if he goes too early and really spoils things, the WWE will change plans to spite him [and likely cost his source his job], so it's not like they'll say it two days in advance.
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Jul 15, 2013 17:51:14 GMT -5
Yeah I think now that WWE are aware of his existence next month he'll get it wrong. Several suspects will be told different results and when Dolphins posts the results they'll fire whoever was told the results he posts. They'll deal with this now I think.
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