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Post by Legion on Sept 4, 2013 13:27:57 GMT -5
So, the Avengers now include one of the most powerful members of the Squadron Supreme, the new version of a classic Imperial Guard member, Captain Universe, and a new Star Brand? Geez. Someone sure did want to put the "Mightiest" back in Earth's Mightiest Heroes, eh? Of those, I suspect only Superm.......Hyperion will stick around. Universe and Starbrand are only there because they are part of the story Hickman is telling. Universe is finite by nature and Starbrand will either be depowered or end up elsewhere/going solo
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Post by anticonscience on Sept 5, 2013 2:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by Jiren on Sept 5, 2013 4:15:13 GMT -5
DC's editorial needs sorting, They're causing too much shit
But I'll with and see who they give it too (If it's Nocenti....I'm out)
Also I hope they leve Brian Azzarello alone, He's doing wonders with WW
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 7:20:04 GMT -5
Oof, that Batwoman development is unfortunate and moreorless dooms the character now. Under another creator the book will assuredly suffer.....unless they pull a complete surprise and give it to someone who isn't named Ann Nocenti or Scott Lobdell or (PUT NAME OF OLD TIRED CREATOR WHO DOESN'T SEEM NEW/FRESH ANYMORE HERE). Azzarello seems like an unpleasant so-and-so. It seemed like he was moreorless drunk at Boston Comic-Con talking crap about the New 52 (with Didio right there next to him on the panel). I think they might actually be too afraid to do anything about him, so WW may be in his hands for a looooong time.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 5, 2013 8:02:22 GMT -5
Wasn't it stated at some point that Gotham doesn't recognize Gay Marriage?
Not that they couldn't have some politician rescind that in the story... (And it might be pre-new 52 as well) But still...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 8:19:57 GMT -5
The issue seems to be that DC won't let them show the marriage.
They could get married, but off-panel basically. The imagery of it could not be shown, as well as some other wranglings that were making a mess of their story.
But JWH3 then said in tweets that this was not an anti-gay marriage thing on DC's part.
Confusing, it is......
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Post by Jiren on Sept 5, 2013 9:08:34 GMT -5
Maybe it didn't feature enough Batman, Because DC thinks it's fanbase can't read anything without thinking "Where's Batman?"*
*And yes I was referencing Simpsons/Poochie
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 5, 2013 10:09:52 GMT -5
wouldn't be the first time. Warren Ellis wrote a prestige edition TPB story called The Authority: Widescreen that was cancelled because it had Apollo and Midnighter kiss passionately on-panel. then Mark Millar and Arthur Adams had to fight tooth-and-nail to have them married (yeah weird, I'm defending Mark Millar for once). for a company that loves trotting out how many prominent LGBT characters it has, DC can be really hypocritical about it.
as for Azzarello, dude's my boy and hearing about him badmouthing Dan Didio like that just makes me like him more (guy gets NO sympathy from me until he brings back Wally West. until then I'll back up anyone who badmouths the chud).
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 5, 2013 11:21:04 GMT -5
Someone on another board pondered if this decision was based on DC hating character marriages in general.
As they pretty much removed all of them with New 52.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 5, 2013 11:30:38 GMT -5
Someone on another board pondered if this decision was based on DC hating character marriages in general. As they pretty much removed all of them with New 52. I think there's some merit to that. I don't really buy the argument that someone being married "ages them" because it doesn't in real life and a comic would be no different. I think there's a couple people in editorial at these companies who regret being married but rather than do the healthy thing and get a divorce, they just co-opt comic characters to vent. One More Day was pretty blatantly just Joe Quesada saying "I hate my wife!" and ruining Spider-man to do so.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 5, 2013 12:09:44 GMT -5
So, the Avengers now include one of the most powerful members of the Squadron Supreme, the new version of a classic Imperial Guard member, Captain Universe, and a new Star Brand? Geez. Someone sure did want to put the "Mightiest" back in Earth's Mightiest Heroes, eh? Not to mention the Blue Marvel in Mighty Avengers and actually keeping the Hulk around for more than two issues this time.
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Post by Legion on Sept 5, 2013 13:02:00 GMT -5
wouldn't be the first time. Warren Ellis wrote a prestige edition TPB story called The Authority: Widescreen that was cancelled because it had Apollo and Midnighter kiss passionately on-panel. then Mark Millar and Arthur Adams had to fight tooth-and-nail to have them married (yeah weird, I'm defending Mark Millar for once). for a company that loves trotting out how many prominent LGBT characters it has, DC can be really hypocritical about it. as for Azzarello, dude's my boy and hearing about him badmouthing Dan Didio like that just makes me like him more (guy gets NO sympathy from me until he brings back Wally West. until then I'll back up anyone who badmouths the chud). DC clearly dont want the protesting. Marvel have balls, DC just does reboots and Batman.
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 5, 2013 15:39:13 GMT -5
I never liked Batwoman. Not over anything dumb like her orientation, but more how a lot of stories had her as a complete psycho. I never liked her writing, even in the good stories I get told about, and the same after checking out the new 52 line.
Thaat is just me, though. And it does seem more like DC Editorial being the bigger problem right now, as this is a small issue in a sea of other problems that reveal this big clusterf*** going on since the new 52 launch.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Sept 5, 2013 15:43:55 GMT -5
I never liked Batwoman. Not over anything dumb like her orientation, but more how a lot of stories had her as a complete psycho. I never liked her writing, even in the good stories I get told about, and the same after checking out the new 52 line. Thaat is just me, though. And it does seem more like DC Editorial being the bigger problem right now, as this is a small issue in a sea of other problems that reveal this big clusterf*** going on since the new 52 launch. after the revolving door that was most of the creative teams in the first year, at least half of editorial should've been fired, Didio included. how the hell is a book supposed to find its voice and thus find an audience if the writer is changed every 3-5 issues?
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Sept 5, 2013 19:55:23 GMT -5
I never liked Batwoman. Not over anything dumb like her orientation, but more how a lot of stories had her as a complete psycho. I never liked her writing, even in the good stories I get told about, and the same after checking out the new 52 line. I dropped her series after a while. Bore me to tears.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 5, 2013 19:56:58 GMT -5
I never liked Batwoman. Not over anything dumb like her orientation, but more how a lot of stories had her as a complete psycho. I never liked her writing, even in the good stories I get told about, and the same after checking out the new 52 line. Thaat is just me, though. And it does seem more like DC Editorial being the bigger problem right now, as this is a small issue in a sea of other problems that reveal this big clusterf*** going on since the new 52 launch. after the revolving door that was most of the creative teams in the first year, at least half of editorial should've been fired, Didio included. how the hell is a book supposed to find its voice and thus find an audience if the writer is changed every 3-5 issues? The constant crossovers (some that started before a book had less than 10 issues at that) certainly don't/didn't help either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 6:26:12 GMT -5
after the revolving door that was most of the creative teams in the first year, at least half of editorial should've been fired, Didio included. how the hell is a book supposed to find its voice and thus find an audience if the writer is changed every 3-5 issues? The constant crossovers (some that started before a book had less than 10 issues at that) certainly don't/didn't help either. I seem to recall the first crossover between books being 2 that aren't even around anymore.........Frankstein/OMAC, was it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 10:58:11 GMT -5
Didio replied via Twitter regarding the BATWOMAN fiasco to a few people. To no one's shock, he basically made himself sound like an even crazier person than we all assume he is. "A new creative team will provide a renewed energy to the series." Yes, because "renewed energy" is what everyone's talking about re: New 52. Now welcome the new writer Howard Mackie and new artist J--oh wait, he'd left the series already just as it was being announced.....um......Stock Artist #8 Who Will Also Not Last Long! Yay! ENERGETIC!
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Post by stinger on Sept 7, 2013 20:53:42 GMT -5
Anyone reading Battle of the Atom. The first two issues were pretty darn amazing. I marked out when I saw that {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Molly Hayes became and X-Man in the future!Really excited to see where this goes.
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Post by Talent Name on Sept 7, 2013 21:10:03 GMT -5
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