543Y2J
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Post by 543Y2J on Sept 15, 2013 21:13:46 GMT -5
Also where is Lydia in all of this? Jack and the gang are supplying for her aren't they?
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Rican
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
July 17, 2011 - HHHe called it
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Post by Rican on Sept 15, 2013 21:13:56 GMT -5
I need a hug.
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Post by Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic on Sept 15, 2013 21:18:08 GMT -5
There should be a support group for the viewers of this show.
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Post by The Peoples Elbow on Sept 15, 2013 21:20:25 GMT -5
God, what a show! I was out of breath for a long time.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Sept 15, 2013 21:21:30 GMT -5
Tonite's episode proves once again that everything Walt has done, he's done for his family.
He tried to get Hank free but the Nazis killed him anyway.
He tried to move his family with him to get out of town.
He absolved Skyler of any guilt.
He dropped Holly off before leaving.
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543Y2J
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Post by 543Y2J on Sept 15, 2013 21:21:55 GMT -5
Such a cheap shot to Jesse from Heisenberg telling him about how he was there when Jane died as well.
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Sept 15, 2013 21:22:04 GMT -5
There are still two episodes left.
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LastCall
Crow T. Robot
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Post by LastCall on Sept 15, 2013 21:23:09 GMT -5
I don't know how I'm going to make it through the final two.
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543Y2J
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Post by 543Y2J on Sept 15, 2013 21:26:40 GMT -5
Vince Gilligan is a genius, and that surpassed all the hype that they gave it as well...somehow. Phenomenal and Aaron's live tweeting... and after everything went down Gotta love Aaron Paul
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 21:52:06 GMT -5
This might be the only episode ill never see more then once
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Rican
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Post by Rican on Sept 15, 2013 22:07:57 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm being dense but I don't get why he took Holly just to give her up later.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 22:15:54 GMT -5
So Saul must still be in contact with Walt as he set up the red van guy for Heisenberg? I don't think so. Saul did give him his card and instructions on what to say. He was going to call him in his own house in crawl space once he gathered his money. Also I believe he said those things to clear Skylers conscious and to protect them and not for them to feel bad when he goes away.
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Post by Orange on Sept 15, 2013 22:22:05 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm being dense but I don't get why he took Holly just to give her up later. The theory I read and agree with is that he had to make himself seem as evil and asshole-ish as possible, so as to totally clear Skyler's name. By kidnapping his own kid and then telling Skyler what he did, knowing full well the call was being monitored, he placed all the blame upon himself.
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Post by hossfan on Sept 15, 2013 22:22:27 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm being dense but I don't get why he took Holly just to give her up later. I assume he took Holly to hurt Skyler and maybe use her as a bargaining chip to convince her to go along with whatever plan he has. Then, when the adrenaline rush was gone, he realized there was no way in hell that was going to work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 22:27:19 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm being dense but I don't get why he took Holly just to give her up later. The theory I read and agree with is that he had to make himself seem as evil and asshole-ish as possible, so as to totally clear Skyler's name. By kidnapping his own kid and then telling Skyler what he did, knowing full well the call was being monitored, he placed all the blame upon himself. Basically because he's a ghost now. Like the user below me said he took Holly on a adrenaline rush. Like he comes back home knowing he's in danger but has enough money for his family, family knows everything, realizes Hank is dead, got a knife pulled on him. Way too much shit going on to be calm and collective
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Yami Daimao
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Post by Yami Daimao on Sept 15, 2013 22:27:45 GMT -5
Tonite's episode proves once again that everything Walt has done, he's done for his family. He tried to get Hank free but the Nazis killed him anyway. He tried to move his family with him to get out of town. He absolved Skyler of any guilt. He dropped Holly off before leaving. That's what makes the character so goddamn compelling. He's a complete megalomaniac, a scumbag, and a monster, but somewhere deep, deep down in his heart, lies a single grain of humanity.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Sept 15, 2013 22:37:44 GMT -5
Sorry if I'm being dense but I don't get why he took Holly just to give her up later. So that he could be sure that Skyler would call the cops
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Yami Daimao
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Post by Yami Daimao on Sept 15, 2013 22:46:54 GMT -5
That flashback opening is genius. It reminds you of a more simpler, controlled time of Walt's life, right before ripping every single part of it away (Jesse, his family, more specifically Holly, and his money) at the exact same place where it all began.
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Perd
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Post by Perd on Sept 15, 2013 22:50:11 GMT -5
Watching it again, it really is gut wrenchhing seeing the mighty Hank, the beloved Jesse, and the greatHeisenberg brought down at the hands of these racist pieces of shit and that sociopath Todd. I know all three are partly responsible, but damn.
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chazraps
Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Sept 15, 2013 22:57:34 GMT -5
Tonite's episode proves once again that everything Walt has done, he's done for his family. He tried to get Hank free but the Nazis killed him anyway. He tried to move his family with him to get out of town. He absolved Skyler of any guilt. He dropped Holly off before leaving. I totally disagree. Tonight was about the lengths Walt will go to in order to lie to himself. More than anything, "Breaking Bad" is a show about foolish pride. Walt just wants a "Family" as a means of pride to covet. If he truly cared that much, he would have taken the job at Grey Matter that he was offered. He's doing all this because he has a complex of not being in power and not being in control, so people in his life either become bargaining chips or puppets to play with. He didn't try to save Hank's life for Hank's sake, but rather so he could hold it over Hank's head. He tries to get his family to come with him as he's pretty much lost everything else and wants to still cling to what he has so he can convince himself he's come out on top. Absolving Skyler and dropping off Holly were so he can sleep at night thinking he's done the right thing.
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