LastCall
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Post by LastCall on Sept 29, 2013 22:45:44 GMT -5
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Sept 29, 2013 22:46:27 GMT -5
"Delocated" might be the "Breaking Bad" of comedies. Check it out if you haven't.
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Post by Raskovnik on Sept 29, 2013 22:46:59 GMT -5
"Delocated" might be the "Breaking Bad" of comedies. Check it out if you haven't. I actually was planning on watching that. Glad to hear it's good.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 29, 2013 22:47:24 GMT -5
"Delocated" might be the "Breaking Bad" of comedies. Check it out if you haven't. You know, that's the first I've heard about that show. Where is it shown?
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Post by MGH on Sept 29, 2013 22:51:19 GMT -5
Wow, I just went back and watched the end again and noticed something. As Walt lay there dead, half of his face is cloaked in shadow. The other half is in the light with a tear in his eye. Same as Fring with his half blown off face, and same with Jesse and his face after Todd mutilated him months ago. That has been the show's biggest running theme.
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Perd
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Post by Perd on Sept 29, 2013 22:53:14 GMT -5
My last two responses have been at the bottom of the page. Just want to say it was a great finale. And this is the greatest series of all-time. I still don't think anything beats the consistency and the intrigue that came with The Wire, but this show certainly left a good enough impression to make me reconsider. I love The Wire. And maybe once I come down from the high of a great finale, I'll reconsider. But right now, I rank Breaking Bad just slightly ahead.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 29, 2013 22:53:28 GMT -5
Wow, I just went back and watched the end again and noticed something. As Walt lay there dead, half of his face is cloaked in shadow. The other half is in the light with a tear in his eye. Same as Fring with his half blown off face, and same with Jesse and his face after Todd mutilated him months ago. That has been the show's biggest running theme. Are we sure Todd did that? I mean, I don't doubt it considering how much of a suck up he is to his bosses but do we know that it was him and not his uncle or any of the other Nazis?
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 29, 2013 22:55:03 GMT -5
I still don't think anything beats the consistency and the intrigue that came with The Wire, but this show certainly left a good enough impression to make me reconsider. I love The Wire. And maybe once I come down from the high of a great finale, I'll reconsider. But right now, I rank Breaking Bad just slightly ahead. That's fair.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Sept 29, 2013 23:00:12 GMT -5
Can't believe this is the last Breaking Bad review I'll ever get to write. But man, what a way to go out. www.rickey.org/breaking-bad-series-finale-recap-video-review-felina/Vince Gilligan really produced the White Whale of modern TV storytelling: a wholly satisfying series finale. No ambiguity, none of the "open to interpretation" / "make your own ending" bullshit that's proliferated movies, TV, books and videogames. Just a clear-cut, definitive ending. Loved it.
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Post by abjordans on Sept 29, 2013 23:02:00 GMT -5
I say this is a huge Sopranos fan. Possibly, I could be considered a "die hard" Sopranos fan.
The Sopranos isn't as much the greatest show of all time as much as Tony Soprano is by far the greatest character in the history of television. The Wire and Breaking Bad are probably both better shows, but Tony Soprano is the single most compelling character the medium of television has ever produced.
I am anxious to see, at least for me, if Breaking Bad has the replay value that The Sopranos and The Wire have had for me over the years. I have watched both those shows multiple times.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 29, 2013 23:03:47 GMT -5
Can't believe this is my last Breaking Bad review ever. But man, what a way to go out. www.rickey.org/breaking-bad-series-finale-recap-video-review-felina/Vince Gilligan really produced the White Whale of modern TV storytelling: a wholly satisfying series finale. No ambiguity, none of the "open to interpretation" / "make your own ending" bullshit that's proliferated movies, TV, books and videogames. Just a clear-cut, definitive ending. Loved it. To be fair, some series' are okay with an ambiguous ending. It's the ones where there should clearly be a definitive one that instead get an open-ended finale that irritates me.
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chazraps
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Post by chazraps on Sept 29, 2013 23:08:40 GMT -5
"Delocated" might be the "Breaking Bad" of comedies. Check it out if you haven't. I actually was planning on watching that. Glad to hear it's good. It's excellent. Honestly, the first season suffers from being a touch rushed as they were bound to the 15 minutes-an-episode format, but when season 2 gives them a whole half hour it becomes almost unfairly incredible. "Delocated" might be the "Breaking Bad" of comedies. Check it out if you haven't. You know, that's the first I've heard about that show. Where is it shown? It was the first all-live action adult swim show. Created and written by Jon Glaser who was the driving force behind Late Night with Conan O'Brien's best years from 98-2002, it's a fake reality show about a family in the witness protection program lead by father deluded by the prospects of fame who has the Russian mob trying to kill him. I can say without hyperbole that the second season of "Delocated" is at least a top-three season of comedy television this decade and at least a top-ten of any genre series. Consistently inventive, surprising without being mindless with some of the strongest performances in the medium. It's absolutely sublime.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 29, 2013 23:09:51 GMT -5
I actually was planning on watching that. Glad to hear it's good. It's excellent. Honestly, the first season suffers from being a touch rushed as they were bound to the 15 minutes-an-episode format, but when season 2 gives them a whole half hour it becomes almost unfairly incredible. You know, that's the first I've heard about that show. Where is it shown? It was the first all-live action adult swim show. Created and written by Jon Glaser who was the driving force behind Late Night with Conan O'Brien's best years from 98-2002, it's a fake reality show about a family in the witness protection program lead by father deluded by the prospects of fame who has the Russian mob trying to kill him. I can say without hyperbole that the second season of "Delocated" is at least a top-three season of comedy television this decade and at least a top-ten of any genre series. Consistently inventive, surprising without being mindless with some of the strongest performances in the medium. It's absolutely sublime. I'll check it out. Sounds great.
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Post by Yami Daimao on Sept 29, 2013 23:11:04 GMT -5
This finale was bittersweet. I'm still in much awe over how poetic and perfect it was. I'm so happy that it ended on a such a high note, but at the same time I'm sad that it's over. There's just so much I loved about it, that I'd be here for hours just rambling.
So many feels.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Sept 29, 2013 23:11:15 GMT -5
Can't believe this is my last Breaking Bad review ever. But man, what a way to go out. www.rickey.org/breaking-bad-series-finale-recap-video-review-felina/Vince Gilligan really produced the White Whale of modern TV storytelling: a wholly satisfying series finale. No ambiguity, none of the "open to interpretation" / "make your own ending" bullshit that's proliferated movies, TV, books and videogames. Just a clear-cut, definitive ending. Loved it. To be fair, some series' are okay with an ambiguous ending. It's the ones where there should clearly be a definitive one that instead get an open-ended finale that irritates me. It happens a lot with other things too though, like books and movies. Hell, videogames seem to live and die by this trope, to a frustrating degree. It's like closure is anathema to developers. I imagine creators believe that it helps the longevity of their work to keep it open-ended, so that conversations never end about it. But I actually think an ending, where viewers can look back and appreciate the full story being told, better preserves a work for posterity's sake, even if it might not keep it in the cultural conversation as long. I guess it all depends on how you want to be remembered. I don't think any show sets out to be the one that's remembered for shitting the bed at the end, but it's something that happens when creative types get too cute with the ending. All any viewer wants is some measure of closure. That's why I loved this finale. Maybe you can't speculate about what x or y meant for the rest of eternity, but you don't really need to. It's enough to wonder what became of everyone after the cameras stopped rolling, even while acknowledging that those characters' stories reached their endpoints within the narrative itself.
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Post by Raskovnik on Sept 29, 2013 23:12:40 GMT -5
I actually was planning on watching that. Glad to hear it's good. It's excellent. Honestly, the first season suffers from being a touch rushed as they were bound to the 15 minutes-an-episode format, but when season 2 gives them a whole half hour it becomes almost unfairly incredible. You know, that's the first I've heard about that show. Where is it shown? It was the first all-live action adult swim show. Created and written by Jon Glaser who was the driving force behind Late Night with Conan O'Brien's best years from 98-2002, it's a fake reality show about a family in the witness protection program lead by father deluded by the prospects of fame who has the Russian mob trying to kill him. I can say without hyperbole that the second season of "Delocated" is at least a top-three season of comedy television this decade and at least a top-ten of any genre series. Consistently inventive, surprising without being mindless with some of the strongest performances in the medium. It's absolutely sublime. I was planning on watching it because it's made by the same people who made Xavier: Renegade Angel which is insanely underrated IMO.
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Post by MGH on Sept 29, 2013 23:29:49 GMT -5
Just popping around Twitter reading reaction (I've yet to see the first negative opinion. I'm floored and delighted) and came upon this. I am in awe of this show. Remember the tiny dropped line when Walt sees that the only thing in the cabin is "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium"? This is from that:
“When King Lear dies in act five, do you know what Shakespeare has written? He has written, 'He dies.' No more. No fanfare, no metaphor, no brilliant final words. The culmination of the most influential piece of dramatic literature is, 'He dies.' Now I am not asking you to be happy at my leaving but all I ask you to do is to turn the page and let the next story begin. -- Mr. Magorium”
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Sept 30, 2013 0:17:48 GMT -5
Thinking about the finale after watching it again, I do kind of wish that the show took a bit more of a risk. Not to say that I didn't like it, I certainly did, but I get where Alan Sepinwall of Hitfix is coming from with his review when he says that everything kind of fell into place a bit too neatly.
If anything, I think because Walter White/Heisenberg comes across as Rock Star Meth Jesus at the very end of the show, I would have liked to been challenged when it comes to rooting for Walt if he did something like kill Elliot and Gretchen Schwartz, who for all intents and purposes were innocent. The finale was less about the wounded masculine pride of one man out for revenge (which is much of what the show has been about for the past 5-6 years) and more about a man looking to dot the Is and cross the Ts so that all his set-out goals are completed. Even Walt's little prayer to the universe or God or Vince Gilligan or what have you basically justifies the 'happy ending' of this show that we saw with this episode. Not to say it wasn't earned, but it rings somewhat hollow, if only ironically.
Walter White isn't a saint, granted, but when he breaks bad, he breaks bad, and I feel like had the showrunners made us question our loyalties to Walt as the progranist a bit more--because he IS a lying, manipulating, scheming, murdering, child-poisoning, abusive, drug manufacturing kingpin nonetheless--that the end of the show would have been a lot more... intense? dramatic? cathartic? Ambiguous, but when it comes to morality, 'why are we rooting for this bad guy?', as opposed to 'what happens after the show cuts to black?' or 'why was everyone in a church?'.
Just my opinion.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 30, 2013 0:36:55 GMT -5
Thinking about the finale after watching it again, I do kind of wish that the show took a bit more of a risk. Not to say that I didn't like it, I certainly did, but I get where Alan Sepinwall of Hitfix is coming from with his review when he says that everything kind of fell into place a bit too neatly. If anything, I think because Walter White/Heisenberg comes across as Rock Star Meth Jesus at the very end of the show, I would have liked to been challenged when it comes to rooting for Walt if he did something like kill Elliot and Gretchen Schwartz, who for all intents and purposes were innocent. The finale was less about the wounded masculine pride of one man out for revenge (which is much of what the show has been about for the past 5-6 years) and more about a man looking to dot the Is and cross the Ts so that all his set-out goals are completed. Even Walt's little prayer to the universe or God or Vince Gilligan or what have you basically justifies the 'happy ending' of this show that we saw with this episode. Not to say it wasn't earned, but it rings somewhat hollow, if only ironically. Walter White isn't a saint, granted, but when he breaks bad, he breaks bad, and I feel like had the showrunners made us question our loyalties to Walt as the progranist a bit more--because he IS a lying, manipulating, scheming, murdering, child-poisoning, abusive, drug manufacturing kingpin nonetheless--that the end of the show would have been a lot more... intense? dramatic? cathartic? Ambiguous, but when it comes to morality, 'why are we rooting for this bad guy?', as opposed to 'what happens after the show cuts to black?' or 'why was everyone in a church?'. Just my opinion. Thing is, we've been challenged enough during the course of the series. Remember, last episode, the man sees clearly exactly just how much his actions have screwed everything up and the only way to fix it is to admit how badly he messed up, do the best he can to do right by his family, and accept whatever comes his way. He was already on the way to that after he was put in handcuffs by Hank. You put too much of what you're talking about and it falls into the, as the Nostalgia critic puts it, "ASK ME WHAT IT MEEEAAAAANNNSS!" territory where the creator/producer/director/whatever tries to add some extra message that doesn't need to be added to make his or herself look like the most innovative, smartest creators in all of entertainment when all they did was needlessly complicate things. I've seen enough of that in Hollywood lately(Looking at you, Christopher Nolan) and it's actually refreshing to see a show end the way it logically should in the context of the events that happened before the finale with no extra nonsense that doesn't need to be there. Not to mention we know what he's done and no one here thinks he was really redeemed that much. There was no way he was ever going to go back to what he was, it's long past too late for that. All he could do is figure out what works best for the people he cared about because he's long past the point of no return. He made too many enemies and become way too involved for him to have some sort of happy ending. Now, if they went in to this trying to get over that it somehow wasn't his fault and that he's been screwed over by someone other than himself, than I would have had an issue. As it is, it ended how it was supposed to.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Sept 30, 2013 0:40:01 GMT -5
Idk if it's been mentioned, but the New Hampshire license plate early on in the episode said "live free or die." Nice use of foreshadowing.
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