siredger
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Post by siredger on Aug 7, 2013 23:50:03 GMT -5
So much for Jarrett being persona non grata within TNA management.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Aug 8, 2013 0:39:38 GMT -5
So much for Jarrett being persona non grata within TNA management. I'm cool with it as long as he brings Selena Gomez back with him. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 8, 2013 1:16:21 GMT -5
Does this mean Selena Gomez is coming to TNA? No, but Sabrina Chavez is.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 8, 2013 13:13:43 GMT -5
Awesome. I really want Jarrett back, in some capacity. He knows and loves wrestling, and is entertaining as hell on screen. I don't. He's STILL a racist piece of crap that if given the chance, would give himself one last run as TNA champ. No thanks. I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but is there solid evidence that Jarrett is a racist? I remember the "Ron Killings, quit being an uppity negro" moment, but reports said that was an in-joke between him and Killings.
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Post by NOwave on Aug 9, 2013 23:14:25 GMT -5
What has Jeff Jarrett done to be labelled racist, by anybody other than Ahmed Johnson, who was clearly bitter at the promotion(WWF) and hasn't been given any credence by any other wrestlers? Jeff grew up in a thoroughly integrated wrestling promotion run by his dad in Memphis. He wrestled with and against whites, blacks and asians, and was well thought of by all. He has happy to put over Booker T for the WCW world heavyweight title. He hired and pushed multiple black men in the original TNA/NWA.
And, finally, racism is a serious charge that is thrown around more often that it should be. It's irresponsible to suggest someone is racist with out very clear evidence.
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Toates Madhackrviper
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Aug 14, 2013 16:52:03 GMT -5
Wait hold up Jeff Jarret was in Spring Breakers???
Somehow despite the fact that I'm a fan of all three of the non-irrelevant girls in that movie (and by me being a fan I mean mostly that my "other head" is a fan... though I actually would consider myself a legitimate fan of Gomez) and despite the fact that those three girls appear scantily glad throughout the movie and despite the fact that my favorite film reviewer MovieBob gave the movie a glowing review... Jarret making what will probably amount to just a 5 second cameo might be the thing that finally drives me to see that movie.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Aug 14, 2013 23:57:55 GMT -5
I don't. He's STILL a racist piece of crap that if given the chance, would give himself one last run as TNA champ. No thanks. I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but is there solid evidence that Jarrett is a racist? I remember the "Ron Killings, quit being an uppity negro" moment, but reports said that was an in-joke between him and Killings. Plus, by some rumors I heard he and Miss Jackie had a thing for years. I don't know how accurate those shoots were, mind you.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Aug 15, 2013 2:11:31 GMT -5
I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but is there solid evidence that Jarrett is a racist? I remember the "Ron Killings, quit being an uppity negro" moment, but reports said that was an in-joke between him and Killings. Plus, by some rumors I heard he and Miss Jackie had a thing for years. I don't know how accurate those shoots were, mind you. I've mentioned this here RE: Jeff/Jackie before but Jefferson had sex with his slave so sleeping with a black woman doesn't disqualify you from being a racist. And yeah. Growing up in Tennessee in the 60s/70s makes you much more likely to be a racist than most other states. Not saying Jarrett is racist since I have no clue but it wouldn't shock me is all.
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SOR
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Post by SOR on Aug 15, 2013 2:42:18 GMT -5
If Jarrett were racist do you all think he would of put over Monty Brown and to a lesser extent D-Von Dudley in the past? Not to mention Ron Killings and giving Booker T the biggest victory of his life at one stage.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Aug 15, 2013 2:59:08 GMT -5
Plus, by some rumors I heard he and Miss Jackie had a thing for years. I don't know how accurate those shoots were, mind you. I've mentioned this here RE: Jeff/Jackie before but Jefferson had sex with his slave so sleeping with a black woman doesn't disqualify you from being a racist. And yeah. Growing up in Tennessee in the 60s/70s makes you much more likely to be a racist than most other states. Not saying Jarrett is racist since I have no clue but it wouldn't shock me is all. I understand the sentiment, and I agree that is possible. I don't necessarily believe it to be the case, especially with his run in Mexico, and and no real stories about Jeff as a racist, and realistically if he was, there would be more evidence, or more stories. But maybe everyone is keeping their mouths shut. And if he is/was racist he seems to not let it interfere with his efforts in wrestling.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 15, 2013 5:32:48 GMT -5
If Jarrett were racist do you all think he would of put over Monty Brown and to a lesser extent D-Von Dudley in the past? Not to mention Ron Killings and giving Booker T the biggest victory of his life at one stage. Cowboy Bill Watts was someone who held some extreme views when it came to race relations but had Junkyard Dog as a main event draw in his promotion and made Ron Simmons a World champion in WCW. As with a lot of things in life, the color green overrides personal feelings. And Booker T winning the WCW title was a Russo decision not Double J.
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Post by SOR on Aug 15, 2013 6:14:07 GMT -5
If Jarrett were racist do you all think he would of put over Monty Brown and to a lesser extent D-Von Dudley in the past? Not to mention Ron Killings and giving Booker T the biggest victory of his life at one stage. Cowboy Bill Watts was someone who held some extreme views when it came to race relations but had Junkyard Dog as a main event draw in his promotion and made Ron Simmons a World champion in WCW. As with a lot of things in life, the color green overrides personal feelings. And Booker T winning the WCW title was a Russo decision not Double J. Jarrett didn't have to do the job though, he very easily could of convinced Russo to let him win. Those two were (And still are) close friends.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 15, 2013 6:21:59 GMT -5
Cowboy Bill Watts was someone who held some extreme views when it came to race relations but had Junkyard Dog as a main event draw in his promotion and made Ron Simmons a World champion in WCW. As with a lot of things in life, the color green overrides personal feelings. And Booker T winning the WCW title was a Russo decision not Double J. Jarrett didn't have to do the job though, he very easily could of convinced Russo to let him win. Those two were (And still are) close friends. Jarrett was someone who did what was good for business instead of personal ideology. Him vetoing Russo would done nothing for him nor WCW. Being the person who Booker beat for the WCW World title meant more. Especially after he laid down for Hogan a hour earlier and Russo's work/shoot.
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Toates Madhackrviper
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Aug 15, 2013 6:37:46 GMT -5
Plus, by some rumors I heard he and Miss Jackie had a thing for years. I don't know how accurate those shoots were, mind you. I've mentioned this here RE: Jeff/Jackie before but Jefferson had sex with his slave so sleeping with a black woman doesn't disqualify you from being a racist. And yeah. Growing up in Tennessee in the 60s/70s makes you much more likely to be a racist than most other states. Not saying Jarrett is racist since I have no clue but it wouldn't shock me is all. My ex-stepdad was MARRIED to a black woman before he married my mom for awhile and he's very overtly racist. Not even the casual type of racism a social justice type like myself watches out for like an actual overt racist. So yeah, agreed that Jarrett dating Jackie for awhile doesn't disqualify him from being a racist. However from what I've seen in this thread I'd say Jarrett has a pretty good track record regarding race and I wouldn't be comfortable calling him a racist without more evidence. What IS the evidence towards him being a racist anyway? I only heard about the thing he said to Killing that was apparently an injoke taken out of context. Anything else? Hell I'd leavy the point that TNA under Jarrett's management had a better track record of pushing black wrestlers than the WWE has had ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) .
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Post by SOR on Aug 15, 2013 7:13:09 GMT -5
I've mentioned this here RE: Jeff/Jackie before but Jefferson had sex with his slave so sleeping with a black woman doesn't disqualify you from being a racist. And yeah. Growing up in Tennessee in the 60s/70s makes you much more likely to be a racist than most other states. Not saying Jarrett is racist since I have no clue but it wouldn't shock me is all. My ex-stepdad was MARRIED to a black woman before he married my mom for awhile and he's very overtly racist. Not even the casual type of racism a social justice type like myself watches out for like an actual overt racist. So yeah, agreed that Jarrett dating Jackie for awhile doesn't disqualify him from being a racist. However from what I've seen in this thread I'd say Jarrett has a pretty good track record regarding race and I wouldn't be comfortable calling him a racist without more evidence. What IS the evidence towards him being a racist anyway? I only heard about the thing he said to Killing that was apparently an injoke taken out of context. Anything else? Hell I'd leavy the point that TNA under Jarrett's management had a better track record of pushing black wrestlers than the WWE has had ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) . Ahmed Johnson claims Jarrett is racist also.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Aug 15, 2013 7:29:12 GMT -5
My ex-stepdad was MARRIED to a black woman before he married my mom for awhile and he's very overtly racist. Not even the casual type of racism a social justice type like myself watches out for like an actual overt racist. So yeah, agreed that Jarrett dating Jackie for awhile doesn't disqualify him from being a racist. However from what I've seen in this thread I'd say Jarrett has a pretty good track record regarding race and I wouldn't be comfortable calling him a racist without more evidence. What IS the evidence towards him being a racist anyway? I only heard about the thing he said to Killing that was apparently an injoke taken out of context. Anything else? Hell I'd leavy the point that TNA under Jarrett's management had a better track record of pushing black wrestlers than the WWE has had ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) . Ahmed Johnson claims Jarrett is racist also. Did Konnan say he was racist? You'd think if anyone would, it'd be him.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 15, 2013 7:33:39 GMT -5
Ahmed Johnson claims Jarrett is racist also. Did Konnan say he was racist? You'd think if anyone would, it'd be him. He did during his lawsuit against TNA.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 15, 2013 8:01:23 GMT -5
Did Konnan say he was racist? You'd think if anyone would, it'd be him. He did during his lawsuit against TNA. and has since said Jeff is one of the nicest guys you'll meet and a great boss when he wasn't pushing himself as the guy
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Post by JTG Fan on Aug 15, 2013 8:36:50 GMT -5
Ultimately with Jarrett I'd say he may or may not be racist, we don't know, but it is a bit unfair for any of us to be saying it when there isn't exactly overwhelming evidence.
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