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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 11, 2013 2:07:47 GMT -5
Because he's so low in the pecking order that he's used to give the more consistently used enhancement talents token pity wins. Who wants to be THAT guy? I think JTG has charisma though. It's not all about status, it's that intangible star quality, that something that sets you apart. It's subjective, I shouldn't say that Hawkins doesn't have that. I just don't see it in him. I'd say status does matter a huge deal. That's why WWE has to pass everyone off as a "main eventer" or throw them into the orbit of a main eventer to get people to care about them. It's why a great deal of wrestlers appear to have "fallen hard" because they were previously pushed at a higher status and are now seemingly lower than they were previously (i.e. Ryback, Ziggler, Tensai, Miz, Drew, Barrett, Swagger, R-Truth, DiBiase, Rhodes until the face turn, Ryder, Riley)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 6:06:14 GMT -5
Curtis Axel
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Aug 11, 2013 7:11:24 GMT -5
Lance Storm
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 11, 2013 9:08:02 GMT -5
Brock has LOADS of charisma. he's more of a physical beast than a talker.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 9:36:10 GMT -5
The Black Hole of Charisma, Alberto Del Rio. Especially now without Ricardo.
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Post by homofojomo on Aug 11, 2013 14:11:05 GMT -5
Brock has LOADS of charisma. he's more of a physical beast than a talker. I won't deny he has a great look. He has a body like a gorilla except he's really white and blonde, which makes him seem like some kind of creepy terrifying anti-gorilla. I can't help thinking that somewhere in the mountains of the congo there exists a calm, placid silverback called Ransel Kcorb, keeping the balance of the universe in tact. But I don't think he's charismatic in the ring in terms of selling and acting, and he's terrible on the microphone.
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Post by JordynCantDance on Aug 11, 2013 15:24:08 GMT -5
Curtis Axel and ADR.
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Post by machomuta on Aug 11, 2013 15:44:17 GMT -5
The Black Hole of Charisma, Alberto Del Rio. Wrong. Only a hater would say that. ADR has charisma. It is not his fault, that he is not allowed to show it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2013 15:48:43 GMT -5
The Black Hole of Charisma, Alberto Del Rio. Wrong. Only a hater would say that. ADR has charisma. It is not his fault, that he is not allowed to show it. I wish I knew who holds him back then? Maybe he didn't have enough time, I mean what's 3 years of being around the main event, he needs at least 5 before any part of his character gets 1/5 over as his ring announcer.
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Post by Talent Name on Aug 11, 2013 16:04:23 GMT -5
Bam Neely
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 12, 2013 8:40:14 GMT -5
Brock has LOADS of charisma. he's more of a physical beast than a talker. I won't deny he has a great look. He has a body like a gorilla except he's really white and blonde, which makes him seem like some kind of creepy terrifying anti-gorilla. I can't help thinking that somewhere in the mountains of the congo there exists a calm, placid silverback called Ransel Kcorb, keeping the balance of the universe in tact. But I don't think he's charismatic in the ring in terms of selling and acting, and he's terrible on the microphone. I won't disagree that he's largely terrible on the mic.
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Post by Dang! on Aug 12, 2013 8:59:03 GMT -5
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 12, 2013 9:05:21 GMT -5
Sylvester Terkay. Although he had zero charisma, I thought he was AWESOME!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 9:05:47 GMT -5
Wrong. Only a hater would say that. ADR has charisma. It is not his fault, that he is not allowed to show it. I wish I knew who holds him back then? Maybe he didn't have enough time, I mean what's 3 years of being around the main event, he needs at least 5 before any part of his character gets 1/5 over as his ring announcer. I have to agree with MachoMuta on this one - Del Rio has charisma, but for some reason WWE doesn't let him show it. When you see him live he's got buckets of it. At the Oakland shown on Sunday you could see him really working the crowd and radiating charisma. The same could not be said for Curtis Axel. They had to pre-tape his house show promo. I mean....
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Post by spagett on Aug 12, 2013 9:33:26 GMT -5
I wish I knew who holds him back then? Maybe he didn't have enough time, I mean what's 3 years of being around the main event, he needs at least 5 before any part of his character gets 1/5 over as his ring announcer. I have to agree with MachoMuta on this one - Del Rio has charisma, but for some reason WWE doesn't let him show it. When you see him live he's got buckets of it. At the Oakland shown on Sunday you could see him really working the crowd and radiating charisma. The same could not be said for Curtis Axel. They had to pre-tape his house show promo. I mean.... How don't they let him show it? He's been pushed really hard since he arrived in the company and has been given loads of mic time, loads of high profile feuds. I think he's severely lacking in charisma, he's solid in the ring but that's about it. He's incredible dull as a face and as a heel.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Aug 12, 2013 9:35:19 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but the first person to pop into my mind was Randy Orton. When someone mentions a 'black hole of charisma', I also initially think of him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2013 9:59:34 GMT -5
Jack Swagger does not possess the ability to make anyone care about Jack Swagger.
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Post by The Peoples Elbow on Aug 12, 2013 10:25:06 GMT -5
This might as well be the Curtis Michael Axel McGillicuty thread. He actually possesses anti-charisma. This is what I came in to post. I can't believe he's Curt's son.
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Post by héad.casé on Aug 12, 2013 10:34:39 GMT -5
Some guys have charisma, but aren't allowed the opportunity to show it. Others don't have it, and don't necessarily need it. Give them a manager or put them with a tag team partner who's better on the mic and just let them do their thing, and they'd be OK Exactly. You'll hear many wrestlers say that Dean Malenko was the funniest guy in the locker room. Did he ever get to show off that he was or bring that to the TV? No (well some of the skits were funny when he was 00-Malenko the ladies man). I guess that had a lot to do with the fact that his gimmick was that he was a no nonsense, serious wrestler, but still.
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Post by cool guy on Aug 12, 2013 10:53:39 GMT -5
Jack Swagger is the first to come to mind.
And Curtis Axel is so uncharismatic that it sort of loops back around into something inspiring.
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