AdamAFL was sooooo wrong
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Aug 13, 2013 18:48:18 GMT -5
I've always liked Scott Armstrong, principally because of the slower way he counts pinfalls. You can always rely on Mike Chioda to be solid too. And of course the legendary Lil' Naitch (Charles Robinson).
I'll take anyone over Earl Hebner though. How he was senior referee for so long despite being so bad at his job was unbelievable. The fact that he's older and worse at his job yet has somehow found employment in TNA is even more unbelievable.
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Post by PKO on Aug 13, 2013 18:53:45 GMT -5
He got pissed on? The dirty sods.
An underrated current referee is Rod Zapata. Does a solid job, doesn't draw focus from the competitors...exactly what a ref should do.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 13, 2013 18:59:43 GMT -5
I'd have to say Mike Chioda. I've been watching for twenty or so years and I don't immediately recall any storyline, incident or (with one exception) him speaking (outside of during a match). That he's managed to do for that so long is exactly what a referee should be IMO.
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Post by CH Punk on Aug 13, 2013 19:02:10 GMT -5
Charles Robinson is the greatest referee ever.
Apart from him, Mike Chioda is always solid, John Cone is pretty good at his job and I'll be biased and say that Jimmy Korderas was pretty great.
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Post by RIHT on Aug 13, 2013 19:05:04 GMT -5
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 13, 2013 19:06:07 GMT -5
Charles Robinson is the greatest referee ever. Apart from him, Mike Chioda is always solid, John Cone is pretty good at his job and I'll be biased and say that Jimmy Korderas was pretty great. Why would you be biased towards Korderas? I was really pissed off when Korderas was released. It's probably the most pissed off I've been at a release other than Daniel Bryan (although I did read a while later that it was on good terms with the powers that be. Not sure whether that is 100% true though).
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Post by ededdneddy on Aug 13, 2013 19:06:11 GMT -5
Jack Doan going for the Hardcore Title was an awesome moment
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 19:20:07 GMT -5
Original black ref, for holding up the cow head in the cow costume during a chavo vs hornswoggle match to the 4 sides of the arena like he was displaying a World title.
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 13, 2013 19:22:16 GMT -5
Scott Armstrong and Charles Robinson.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Aug 13, 2013 19:56:56 GMT -5
Lil Naitch is the greatest ref of all time.
Can someone explain why Earl Hebner is so well loved in certain circles?
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Post by CH Punk on Aug 13, 2013 20:36:38 GMT -5
Charles Robinson is the greatest referee ever. Apart from him, Mike Chioda is always solid, John Cone is pretty good at his job and I'll be biased and say that Jimmy Korderas was pretty great. Why would you be biased towards Korderas? I was really pissed off when Korderas was released. It's probably the most pissed off I've been at a release other than Daniel Bryan (although I did read a while later that it was on good terms with the powers that be. Not sure whether that is 100% true though). That on top of being a great ref, he's Canadian and I've always been a bigger mark of fellow Canucks than I probably would have been if they weren't from Canada. IIRC, from Jimmy's AoW episode, he mentioned that his release was a mutual decision due to some personal issues outside of WWE.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Aug 13, 2013 20:39:13 GMT -5
The best refs are the ones that you never notice.
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Post by woowoowoox on Aug 13, 2013 20:47:43 GMT -5
Charles Robinson. The end.
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Post by RIHT on Aug 13, 2013 22:18:19 GMT -5
Why would you be biased towards Korderas? I was really pissed off when Korderas was released. It's probably the most pissed off I've been at a release other than Daniel Bryan (although I did read a while later that it was on good terms with the powers that be. Not sure whether that is 100% true though). That on top of being a great ref, he's Canadian and I've always been a bigger mark of fellow Canucks than I probably would have been if they weren't from Canada. IIRC, from Jimmy's AoW episode, he mentioned that his release was a mutual decision due to some personal issues outside of WWE. Anyone have footage/a .gif of Korderas leaping into the air after Batista speared Undertaker at Backlash 2007?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2013 22:48:21 GMT -5
I'd have to say Mike Chioda. I've been watching for twenty or so years and I don't immediately recall any storyline, incident or (with one exception) him speaking (outside of during a match). That he's managed to do for that so long is exactly what a referee should be IMO. There was one angle where Jericho and Bischoff had a problem with him that led to a match between Jericho and Chioda, but even then the story was that Chioda was just too damn good a referee. I really like Chioda. I think Mike Chioda, Jimmy Korderas and Charles Robinson are the three greats, no one else really comes to mind. Chioda is the hardnosed, really f***ing serious about the rules referee. Charles Robinson is the showman, he looks like he exhausts himself out there, that GIF of him cartwheeling into action I think is evidence enough that he's a Goddamn legend, he takes more of a performance-centric approach to it but it just makes matches better. Korderas is the ultimate in just enforcing the rules but not making it about him in the slightest. Though I'm not the type that thinks it's a cardinal sin for a referee to take a little spotlight for himself every now and again he's great for doing a really serviceable officiating job and really almost being invisible for the wrestlers take the focus. I really wonder sometimes that if Hebner didn't get caught with his bootleg merch wagon if he'd still be heralded as the head honcho of referees, always baffled me what a stink WWE created around him.
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 13, 2013 22:55:39 GMT -5
Can someone explain why Earl Hebner is so well loved in certain circles? My best guess is that it's because Hebner was around the WWF for so long, he was basically the main WWF referee for over a decade. So people who were fans during the Attitude era, when he could sometimes come in and have a beer with Stone Cold, romanticize his work as a referee. Much like they romanticize that whole era.
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Post by Greer on Aug 14, 2013 0:18:16 GMT -5
Charles Robinson.
Tim White.
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Post by siredger on Aug 14, 2013 0:22:18 GMT -5
Charles Robinson, Mike Chioda, fellow Canuck Jimmy Korderas come to mind.
I wonder if he hadn't died from that tragic car accident if Joey Marella would've eventually become a senior referee in WWE.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Aug 14, 2013 3:16:38 GMT -5
I'd have to say Mike Chioda. I've been watching for twenty or so years and I don't immediately recall any storyline, incident or (with one exception) him speaking (outside of during a match). That he's managed to do for that so long is exactly what a referee should be IMO. He spoke on the mic during the roster walkout on HHH segment a couple of years ago. www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7aWhzEj5LMaround the 2:30 mark.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Aug 14, 2013 3:52:50 GMT -5
I'll take anyone over Earl Hebner though. How he was senior referee for so long despite being so bad at his job was unbelievable. The fact that he's older and worse at his job yet has somehow found employment in TNA is even more unbelievable. The thing about Hebner that I liked was that cause of the fuss they made about him being the "big time" ref, any match that he was referee for that wasn't a main-event became more important by proxy.
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