|
Post by PTBartman on Aug 15, 2013 5:25:40 GMT -5
If they acknowledge his sexual orientation on air, Titus should immediately declare his support for him, and vow to bludgeon anyone who gives Darren Young any shit about it. I was going to make a joke about it, but then I thought about it and now I'm curious about it. Maybe Titus knew and Vince and Co. knew, so do you think Rufus Pancake PATTERSON's name was a rib/homage the same way Santino's name is an homage to Gorilla Monsoon?
|
|
miffy
Mephisto
Posts: 744
|
Post by miffy on Aug 15, 2013 5:31:15 GMT -5
Looking at it a little cynically, they've got another legit angle for their Be A Star vignettes and promotion. If that involves more PTP and no changing the act, I'm all for exploitation.
|
|
TGM
Hank Scorpio
Posts: 6,073
|
Post by TGM on Aug 15, 2013 5:33:29 GMT -5
I hope they WWE don't make this part of his tv character. Knowing how subtle they can be, they'll have Young wrestling in a feather boa, doing ballet dances and squirting white lotion over himself.
I'm glad that being gay is so acceptable in such a macho culture as pro wrestling, although supposedly Chris Kanyon had a tough time with his sexuality.
|
|
|
Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Aug 15, 2013 5:33:42 GMT -5
Oh most definitely, I would almost guarantee it was everything to do with the ludicrousness of the gimmick and not all that much to do with sexual orientation at all. Then suggest it be toned down, while keeping the central core of the idea intact, rather than ignoring it for as long as they could then firing him? Besides, I don't think the company that gave us some of Goldust's gimmicks has any grounds to deny the Jordan gimmick. I guess you're right, I never really thought of it like that
|
|
FinalGwen
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Particularly fond of muffins.
Posts: 16,533
|
Post by FinalGwen on Aug 15, 2013 5:37:07 GMT -5
It's actually funny to think that Orlando's character wouldn't have raised many eyebrows in the Attitude Era, but at the same time, I doubt a gay/bi wrestler could have been treated with any sort of respect back then.
Anyway, don't want to get too off topic. Bravo to Darren, and it'll be interesting to see where they go from here.
|
|
|
Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Aug 15, 2013 5:42:10 GMT -5
There shouldn't be any mention of it or character tweak at all. The point is that it shouldn't become someones identity.
Michael Cole never introduces Randy Orton as "the Viper, Randy Orton... of course Orton leads an entirely normal lifestyle, everyone would like to show their support for Orton who is, of course, straight".
If they can't show Darren Young without giving a nod to his sexuality it'll never change.
|
|
Sam Punk
Hank Scorpio
Own Nothing, Be Happy
Posts: 6,321
|
Post by Sam Punk on Aug 15, 2013 5:44:24 GMT -5
I had my money on punk. Congrats to Young, I just hope WWE doesn't make him be the over the top stereotype and Titus as his extremely homophobic tag team partner. But it's not wrestling without over the top stereotypes.
|
|
|
Post by Wolf Hurricane on Aug 15, 2013 5:51:59 GMT -5
Seeing how Orlando's character behaved in TNA, it's probably was less about his sexual orientation and more about his gimmick idea was way over the top. Pretty much. Probably less, "We don't want a bisexual," and more, "We don't want a depraved rapist."
|
|
Abdullah
Hank Scorpio
Thank you, Ishmeal Loves Bayley!
Posts: 6,421
|
Post by Abdullah on Aug 15, 2013 5:56:24 GMT -5
This would be a great time for certain parts of the wrestling fandom to show how inclusive they are by introducing some Darren Young fanfic, and possibly fanart, to the internet.
In all seriousness, if any bored, smarky crowd tries to make a chant out of this I hope WWE responds strongly. That's my main fear. I don't think they care enough about Darren to make an issue out of this.
|
|
|
Post by Wolf Hurricane on Aug 15, 2013 6:06:23 GMT -5
This would be a great time for certain parts of the wrestling fandom to show how inclusive they are by introducing some Darren Young fanfic, and possibly fanart, to the internet. In all seriousness, if any bored, smarky crowd tries to make a chant out of this I hope WWE responds strongly. That's my main fear. I don't think they care enough about Darren to make an issue out of this. Even if the WWE themselves don't react strongly, you can guarantee the roster will. A story comes to mind in either the '60's or the '70's where one of the territories (I wanna say Georgia Championship Wrestling) hit a bad part of the south and they were chanting racial slurs at a black wrestler. Well, his fellow white wrestlers basically told the audience "cut it out or we're leaving," and lo and behold, the crowd got back in their lane.
|
|
Idiot
AC Slater
Posts: 132
|
Post by Idiot on Aug 15, 2013 6:10:44 GMT -5
Oh most definitely, I would almost guarantee it was everything to do with the ludicrousness of the gimmick and not all that much to do with sexual orientation at all. Then suggest it be toned down, while keeping the central core of the idea intact, rather than ignoring it for as long as they could then firing him? Besides, I don't think the company that gave us some of Goldust's gimmicks has any grounds to deny the Jordan gimmick. 1) Goldust happened in an entirely different environment. WWE did a whole lot of stuff that they'd never dream of now back then. 2) Toning down OJ's TNA gimmick leaves you with what exactly? No insane entrance, no covering himself with synthetic semen, he'd just be a guy with two valets and that's not really enough to base a gimmick on.
|
|
|
Post by bestthateverdidit on Aug 15, 2013 6:11:25 GMT -5
it's a work. How can people be so easily fooled.
|
|
Essential1
Hank Scorpio
Sigs/Avatars cannot exceed 1MB
Posts: 6,080
|
Post by Essential1 on Aug 15, 2013 6:17:37 GMT -5
He's brave. He has the support of Pat and Pancake so he will be fine. I think Pancake Patterson was the first to know. Move Kitty Kitty.
|
|
|
Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Aug 15, 2013 6:18:32 GMT -5
it's a work. How can people be so easily fooled. If it's a work then you can say goodbye to Darren's career and by proxy Titus O'Neil because the PTP will be over. If this is a work the bad press WWE will get isn't worth thinking about because they're in for a shit storm.
|
|
M. Dirrty
Don Corleone
Blue Moon
Posts: 1,855
|
Post by M. Dirrty on Aug 15, 2013 6:21:43 GMT -5
So is he an early favorite for the star of Total Divas season 2?!
seriously
That may sound like a cheesy lame joke, but imagine the new gay viewers to the show and those like me and im sure alot of straight fans who would be interested in watching how he deals with his life in the wrestling world. Even if it is watered down "reality" television.
|
|
|
Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 15, 2013 6:24:27 GMT -5
it's a work. How can people be so easily fooled. Everything is a work. This reality is really an autistic child's dream.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2013 6:32:58 GMT -5
So is he an early favorite for the star of Total Divas season 2?! seriously That may sound like a cheesy lame joke, but imagine the new gay viewers to the show and those like me and im sure alot of straight fans who would be interested in watching how he deals with his life in the wrestling world. Even if it is watered down "reality" television. Imagine the hilarity as big brother John Cena tries to hook him up with a returning Sebastian.
|
|
Knailsic From Now On
Dennis Stamp
Loneliest Number Since #1
Waiting with my red eyes and my stone heart
Posts: 4,365
|
Post by Knailsic From Now On on Aug 15, 2013 6:37:33 GMT -5
Cena knew Darren was gay. He was afraid to say it out loud because their dad was watching. Ah man, I wanted to make that joke. Congrats to Young, hope this doesn't change the PTP gimmick.
|
|
Sajoa Moe
Patti Mayonnaise
Did you get that thing I sent ya?
A man without gimmick.
Posts: 39,683
|
Post by Sajoa Moe on Aug 15, 2013 6:38:42 GMT -5
I'm just afraid that he'll get slaughtered by live crowds now. Lots of F-bombs by people who think they're being cool.
|
|
|
Post by TK The Friendly Robot on Aug 15, 2013 6:46:32 GMT -5
it's a work. How can people be so easily fooled. Everything is a work. This reality is really an autistic child's dream.
|
|