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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 8:40:34 GMT -5
Brooke Hogan never had cross-over appeal to begin with. She was in Sand Shark (thx cinnemassacre for cluing me in on that on). I've seen it. She somehow manages to be the best actor in the entire movie. That's not a compliment. ...as for this? Good riddance, you poisonous fungus. Please do something that doesn't involve nepotism.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 8:42:57 GMT -5
I don't know about "miss" but there was someone on here who was CONVINCED Brooke was good for TNA because she gets a lot of YouTube hits and was on a reality TV show (I mean, who hasn't at this point) or something. Apparently even TNA didn't buy that one...heh. Yeah, that was me except you've twisted my words around. I said TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had cross over appeal and to an extent they were right. Brooke's fan base (Regardless of how small) does indeed exist the issue is they're probably not big wrestling fans and are more into her music or reality TV Show. I never said Brooke was good for TNA and that she did anything to benefit TNA. That's something you've simply made up. I hope you realize you just contradicted yourself in that post. "TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had crossover appeal..." "I never said Brooke was good for TNA..." So crossover appeal...is...bad? And they weren't right about her crossover appeal which is why when money got tight they dropped her.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 8:45:43 GMT -5
Yeah, that was me except you've twisted my words around. I said TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had cross over appeal and to an extent they were right. Brooke's fan base (Regardless of how small) does indeed exist the issue is they're probably not big wrestling fans and are more into her music or reality TV Show. I never said Brooke was good for TNA and that she did anything to benefit TNA. That's something you've simply made up. I hope you realize you just contradicted yourself in that post. "TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had crossover appeal..." "I never said Brooke was good for TNA..." So crossover appeal...is...bad? And they weren't right about her crossover appeal which is why when money got tight they dropped her. Not my discussion but those two quotes aren't contradictory. Thinking TNA thought she'd be good for business and one's personal thoughts that she was good for TNA are two entirely different trains of thought. They don't ride the same rail.
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Post by SOR on Aug 17, 2013 8:48:06 GMT -5
You guys care way too much about someone who has very minimal TV time. Anyway, a good move. Obviously they felt Brooke's cross over appeal wasn't worth it. Who will the Nepotism rants be about now? Garrett? As far as nepotism goes, you really think she would have gotten a long term role were she not the daughter of Hulk Hogan? At the most, she may have been brought in for a couple of appearances based on her reality TV fame, 'worked' a tag match or a catfight at a PPV like JWoww or Jenna Morasca then would never be spoken of again, except when people list ways TNA have wasted money, She wouldn't of been doing much more then that, no. I'm not disputing the fact that Brooke brings zero to TNA I'm saying TNA kept her around to simply try and hook her fanbase in and it didn't work so they released her (Which is fair) She was a failed attempt at bringing fans in. That doesn't mean she has zero cross over appeal or isn't popular outside of TNA it just means her fans didn't want to follow her over. Yeah, that was me except you've twisted my words around. I said TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had cross over appeal and to an extent they were right. Brooke's fan base (Regardless of how small) does indeed exist the issue is they're probably not big wrestling fans and are more into her music or reality TV Show. I never said Brooke was good for TNA and that she did anything to benefit TNA. That's something you've simply made up. I hope you realize you just contradicted yourself in that post. "TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had crossover appeal..." "I never said Brooke was good for TNA..." So crossover appeal...is...bad? And they weren't right about her crossover appeal which is why when money got tight they dropped her. As a poster said above it really isn't contradictory because I don't have the numbers in front of me. I don't know if Brooke was good or bad for TNA's business so I can't say if she was or not. Since they've released her I can only assume she was bad for TNA's bottom line which is fine. She's been a failure for TNA in terms of getting those fans to watch TNA which is a shame but also a reality. As for what I personally feel. I don't think Brooke Hogan was that great for TNA but she COULD of been if all her fans had come over to TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 8:48:26 GMT -5
I hope you realize you just contradicted yourself in that post. "TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had crossover appeal..." "I never said Brooke was good for TNA..." So crossover appeal...is...bad? And they weren't right about her crossover appeal which is why when money got tight they dropped her. Not my discussion but those two quotes aren't contradictory. Thinking TNA thought she'd be good for business and one's personal thoughts that she was good for TNA are two entirely different trains of thought. They don't ride the same rail. I don't see how. Good for business is what the whole discussion was about - re: YouTube hits and popularity. The discussion want't about if he personally liked her.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 8:51:58 GMT -5
Not my discussion but those two quotes aren't contradictory. Thinking TNA thought she'd be good for business and one's personal thoughts that she was good for TNA are two entirely different trains of thought. They don't ride the same rail. I don't see how. Good for business is what the whole discussion was about - re: YouTube hits and popularity. The discussion want't about if he personally liked her. It's not, but here's that quote: "I never said Brooke was good for TNA..." <=== His perspective on Brooke's value to the company. "TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had crossover appeal..." <=== His perspective on TNA's perspective on Brooke's value to the company. One is a first person perspective and the other is third person about the company. Two different things.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 8:56:52 GMT -5
As far as nepotism goes, you really think she would have gotten a long term role were she not the daughter of Hulk Hogan? At the most, she may have been brought in for a couple of appearances based on her reality TV fame, 'worked' a tag match or a catfight at a PPV like JWoww or Jenna Morasca then would never be spoken of again, except when people list ways TNA have wasted money, She wouldn't of been doing much more then that, no. I'm not disputing the fact that Brooke brings zero to TNA I'm saying TNA kept her around to simply try and hook her fanbase in and it didn't work so they released her (Which is fair) She was a failed attempt at bringing fans in. That doesn't mean she has zero cross over appeal or isn't popular outside of TNA it just means her fans didn't want to follow her over. I hope you realize you just contradicted yourself in that post. "TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had crossover appeal..." "I never said Brooke was good for TNA..." So crossover appeal...is...bad? And they weren't right about her crossover appeal which is why when money got tight they dropped her. As a poster said above it really isn't contradictory because I don't have the numbers in front of me. I don't know if Brooke was good or bad for TNA's business so I can't say if she was or not. Since they've released her I can only assume she was bad for TNA's bottom line which is fine. She's been a failure for TNA in terms of getting those fans to watch TNA which is a shame but also a reality. As for what I personally feel. I don't think Brooke Hogan was that great for TNA but she COULD of been if all her fans had come over to TNA. but what about all those YOUTUBE hits?!?!? I thought that was proof about how popular she was with the fans?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 8:59:11 GMT -5
I don't see how. Good for business is what the whole discussion was about - re: YouTube hits and popularity. The discussion want't about if he personally liked her. It's not, but here's that quote: "I never said Brooke was good for TNA..." <=== His perspective on Brooke's value to the company. "TNA probably hired Brooke because they felt she had crossover appeal..." <=== His perspective on TNA's perspective on Brooke's value to the company. One is a first person perspective and the other is third person about the company. Two different things. Granted, but to have the opinion that she has crossover appeal (agreeing with TNAs reason for hiring her) is basically saying that his first person perspective is that Brooke is good for TNA. In the past he has said that he did think Brooke had that cross over appeal.
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Post by SOR on Aug 17, 2013 9:03:07 GMT -5
She wouldn't of been doing much more then that, no. I'm not disputing the fact that Brooke brings zero to TNA I'm saying TNA kept her around to simply try and hook her fanbase in and it didn't work so they released her (Which is fair) She was a failed attempt at bringing fans in. That doesn't mean she has zero cross over appeal or isn't popular outside of TNA it just means her fans didn't want to follow her over. As a poster said above it really isn't contradictory because I don't have the numbers in front of me. I don't know if Brooke was good or bad for TNA's business so I can't say if she was or not. Since they've released her I can only assume she was bad for TNA's bottom line which is fine. She's been a failure for TNA in terms of getting those fans to watch TNA which is a shame but also a reality. As for what I personally feel. I don't think Brooke Hogan was that great for TNA but she COULD of been if all her fans had come over to TNA. but what about all those YOUTUBE hits?!?!? I thought that was proof about how popular she was with the fans? You're clearly trying to bait me so I'll just say that Brooke has fans of her music and reality TV Shows (Brooke knows and Hogan knows) she has an existing fan base that simply didn't follow her to TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 9:07:35 GMT -5
but what about all those YOUTUBE hits?!?!? I thought that was proof about how popular she was with the fans? You're clearly trying to bait me so I'll just say that Brooke has fans of her music and reality TV Shows (Brooke knows and Hogan knows) she has an existing fan base that simply didn't follow her to TNA. Haha, well if Hogan's fans didn't follow HIM to TNA why would they think Brooke's would? A blind man could have seen this coming a mile away. Not quite as classic TNA as the MNW part II, but still in their wheel house. Maybe they should hire Neil Degrasse Tyson next. he's got a huge fan base in the scientific community - maybe they'll follow him to TNA. He's basically got the same credentials as Brooke: can't wrestle and never been on a wrestling show before.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 17, 2013 9:16:57 GMT -5
You guys care way too much about someone who has very minimal TV time. Anyway, a good move. Obviously they felt Brooke's cross over appeal wasn't worth it. Who will the Nepotism rants be about now? Garrett? Even in when you agree, you manage to lash out. Hell I even think you're right more often then you're wrong, but come on. Not everything needs to be a fight man.
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Post by Djm Doesn't Find You Funny on Aug 17, 2013 9:45:21 GMT -5
I would tune into any wrestling show that would bring in Neil Degrasse Tyson.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 17, 2013 10:04:45 GMT -5
She wouldn't of been doing much more then that, no. I'm not disputing the fact that Brooke brings zero to TNA I'm saying TNA kept her around to simply try and hook her fanbase in and it didn't work so they released her (Which is fair) She was a failed attempt at bringing fans in. That doesn't mean she has zero cross over appeal or isn't popular outside of TNA it just means her fans didn't want to follow her over. Actually, it kinda does as none of her hypothetical fans have followed her to any of her other ventures, they didn't buy her albums, they didn't watch her in TNA and there aren't enough of them to get her roles in anything other than low budget Syfy/Asylum films or bit parts in series where her Dad is a regular.
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Post by Professor Chaos on Aug 17, 2013 10:25:59 GMT -5
As much as F.A.N. may hate her I thought she brought a lot to the table and am disappointed by this. I hope TNA ends up folding as a result.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 17, 2013 10:27:48 GMT -5
How on earth have we gotten to the point where You Tube hits measure popularity? Rebecca Black has a ton of hits on there...should TNA bring her in as well?
Let's hope this means it's the end of the line for Hogan as well. TNA doesn't need to bury him by having Bully Ray destroy him or anything. Just let his contract expire, give him a nice sendoff, and move forward.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2013 10:37:16 GMT -5
As much as F.A.N. may hate her I thought she brought a lot to the table and am disappointed by this. I hope TNA ends up folding as a result. After all the chaotic things TNA has been through and yet survive, I seriously doubt firing Brooke Hogan is what does them in.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Aug 17, 2013 10:38:38 GMT -5
As much as F.A.N. may hate her I thought she brought a lot to the table and am disappointed by this. I hope TNA ends up folding as a result. After all the chaotic things TNA has been through and yet survive, I seriously doubt firing Brooke Hogan is what does them in. I'm really hoping we've fallen in to a SAR chasm
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 17, 2013 10:40:59 GMT -5
After all the chaotic things TNA has been through and yet survive, I seriously doubt firing Brooke Hogan is what does them in. I'm really hoping we've fallen in to a SAR chasm I don't know with Professor Chaos. He profess his love for Brooke Hogan on a regular basis. Unless he is living up to his namesake, it might be the real deal with him.
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Post by The Trashman on Aug 17, 2013 10:45:03 GMT -5
I really dont care either way but Brooke Hogan joining Bully Ray a long time ago was the way to go.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 17, 2013 10:54:48 GMT -5
Brooke Hogan never had cross-over appeal to begin with. She was in Sand Shark (thx cinnemassacre for cluing me in on that on). She was also in Two Headed Shark Attack
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