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Post by abjordans on Aug 16, 2013 21:32:52 GMT -5
Simple question. Who was more over? Jeff Hardy around the time he faced Orton for the belt at The Royal Rumble that one year (07? 08? Can't remember the year) or Daniel Bryan right now? I think it is super close, but might lean towards Bryan.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 16, 2013 22:22:44 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy's pretty much the only guy in the last several years who's been spectacularly over with enough different demographics that he had a serious chance of surpassing Cena.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 16, 2013 22:27:02 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy
Bryan's overness has been severely overrated. He's very over, but not to this "godlike status" people have been saying it is
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 16, 2013 23:23:55 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy was a documented draw, the only guy to come close to Cena's drawing ability in the last decade.
I haven't heard about DB being a huge draw. So until I see some numbers, I'd say Jeff Hardy.
But DB is probably the most popular guy (aside from Cena) in WWE since Jeff Hardy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 23:55:52 GMT -5
Hard to say. Jeff Hardy has been extremely over ever from charisma alone since he stepped in the WWE ring as a 16 year old jobber. Like he has one of the biggest IT factors in wrestling history. If Daniel Bryan keeps this reaction for the next few years then we can compare
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Aug 17, 2013 0:03:49 GMT -5
I don't even think it's a discussion right now. Jeff Hardy was unbelievably over, especially with the female audience.
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Post by Crimson on Aug 17, 2013 0:43:35 GMT -5
Hardy. Dude honestly was the Cult of Personality since he had no catch phrases or was particular good on the mic, yet he was arguably the most over guy during his final stretch.
Though I think it's apple and oranges at this point. Some people just have the "It-Factor." Both Hardy and Bryan do.
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Post by thegame415 on Aug 17, 2013 1:59:11 GMT -5
Ask this question in about 10 years.
DB has really only been over for about a year and a half. Jeff was over from the No Mercy 1999 ladder match forward and always stayed over.
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Aug 17, 2013 2:01:46 GMT -5
yeah can't really compare Jeff Hardy (who has been in WWF regularly from 98-03, then again from 06-09) to Daniel Bryan (who's featured for 3.5 years on WWE TV now)
Jeff had that charisma, that high-flying risk-taking daredevil persona, his whole style & outfit was the complete opposite of the "generic wrestler look", ladies & kids LOVED him, guys respected him because of his past and his willingness to put everything on the line just to entertain the fans
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Aug 17, 2013 9:16:35 GMT -5
Hardy was the last guy I knew of that could capture EVERY demographic under the WWE. He was over with the men (unlike Cena), over with marky conservative crowds (unlike Punk), over with women (unlike Bryan), and over with kids. Dude was the complete package and appealing on all levels.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 9:22:22 GMT -5
Right now.....that's a tough one. Hardy's been gone for a few years and Bryan's been winning fans over.
If Hardy never left WWE I'd say him, but I'd be interested to see how the crowd would take to him upon a return.
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Post by ronin705 on Aug 17, 2013 9:40:38 GMT -5
I ride for DB, but Hardy by leaps and bounds. He needs to clean himself up and get back to the 'E
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Post by chazraps on Aug 17, 2013 10:18:47 GMT -5
The DB wave is still growing and, while it's shown no signs of stopping, hasn't really peaked yet so there's not really room to compare.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 10:37:44 GMT -5
I agree with a few other posters in here already (the like feature on here has grown on me a lot, less needless THIS posts) but I thought this was suggesting a Jeff/D-Bry feud if Jeff returns.
I mean, I know it'd be confusing and having two very over faces may be counter-productive, but those matches would be incredibly fun for fan response and in-ring action...
I do miss Jeff quite a lot, when Daniel Bryan in his current run is the only person to maintain anywhere near that level of consistent fan response (CM Punk was close but *enter monologue about WWE writing here*) then you know how damned popular Jeff was. Plus he was fun to watch against anybody.
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Post by 543Y2J on Aug 17, 2013 10:39:57 GMT -5
This thread really makes me want to see a match between the two, it would be great....
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Post by Crimson on Aug 17, 2013 13:03:17 GMT -5
This thread really makes me want to see a match between the two, it would be great.... If the dude continues to stay clean I'd be down for a final "redemption" run.
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Post by airraidcrash on Aug 17, 2013 14:16:43 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy's pretty much the only guy in the last several years who's been spectacularly over with enough different demographics that he had a serious chance of surpassing Cena. I'd say Rey after Cena and then Hardy.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 17, 2013 14:30:05 GMT -5
Hardy by a wide breadth.
Bryan is over right now, but Hardy was ridiculous and was ridiculous for a really, really long time. Bryan is fitting as a nice flavor of the month right now, but he needs to maintain it for 8 years or so to be on the same level as Hardy was.
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Post by muzzle on Aug 17, 2013 17:14:56 GMT -5
Its actually a fair comparison because both Hardy and DB are over with everyone. Smarks, kids, Women, Men.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 17, 2013 17:40:30 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy's pretty much the only guy in the last several years who's been spectacularly over with enough different demographics that he had a serious chance of surpassing Cena. I'd say Rey after Cena and then Hardy. I can see where you're coming from, and Rey probably is the second-biggest draw of anyone on the fulltime WWE roster during the modern era (which is why they're so desperate to build up del Rio or Sin Cara to be able to fill his spot now), but I'd say Rey's sort of like Undertaker in that he's just too distinctively offbeat to work as the face of the company. Jeff's a stylized, exaggerated character, but he's as "normal" as a Hogan or HBK or Cena, whereas an invincible zombie or a diminutive masked man isn't. So while Rey was arguably the bigger draw, Jeff's the one who struck me as having a shot at actually supplanting Cena as the top-promoted star of the company (as a performer, at least; Jeff's recreational habits sure screwed that up).
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