Malcolm
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Post by Malcolm on Aug 20, 2013 16:16:50 GMT -5
He's so upset, he's going to drown his sorrows in his huge house with his huge pool, and wipe the tears from his eyes with 100 dollar bills while Nikki Bella "consoles" him. So people with money aren't allowed to have feelings? You could be the richest guy in the world and still be miserable. Not saying Cena is, but still...
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Aug 20, 2013 16:45:15 GMT -5
I miss the days* when people would always get a show of respect after an awesome match, poor Sheamus suffered a similar fate after what he went through in that MitB match. *These days may be mostly imaginary. Edge vs Eddie Guerrero with a heel Eddie, Edge gets the win with a top rope ladder assisted ddt. Eddie gets a standing O post match
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Aug 20, 2013 16:52:38 GMT -5
He deserved it. Why would fans feel bad for him leaving when ... I don't know if anyone noticed this ... there's a huge part of the crowd that dislikes him? Because it's a classless, dick move. The guy, like him or not, has busted his ass with little to no downtime for years.
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Post by nickcave on Aug 20, 2013 16:59:55 GMT -5
Cena the wrestler deserves way more respect than he has been given recently, he's had plenty of classic matches that would make anyone jealous. His character is a little stale but the dude always gives 100 % when he's in the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 17:08:21 GMT -5
He deserved it. Why would fans feel bad for him leaving when ... I don't know if anyone noticed this ... there's a huge part of the crowd that dislikes him? Because it's a classless, dick move. The guy, like him or not, has busted his ass with little to no downtime for years. It's a TV show and the main character is hated by people. That character is going away, lets all feel sad about that. No. Fans booing or cheering the character John Cena wouldn't do shit for the person John Cena. That's why he even smiled, he knows that people hate the character and are glad that the character is going away for a period of time. Don't get all confused because he uses his real name in ring.
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BRV
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Post by BRV on Aug 20, 2013 17:10:39 GMT -5
I think the reaction was more along the lines of the fans saying, "Yeah, we've heard this one before...see you in about two and a half hours, Cena."
Remember the last time he gave one of these grandiose farewell speeches after his match with Brock Lesnar at Extreme Rules? Or when he was "fired" after Survivor Series 2011? The fans had every right to be skeptical of Cena "taking some time off," considering the last time he actually took extended time off was five years ago.
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Post by rybackrulez on Aug 20, 2013 17:15:23 GMT -5
He will reuturn to save wwe from the facgime
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Post by Beast Army Ass on Aug 20, 2013 19:05:40 GMT -5
Not saying it was right or a classy thing to do, but I agree a lot was stemmed from the fact that he's had these speeches before, and he's back the very next week. Sure, the baseball implant in his elbow lends credence to his story but if you've lied to the audience before, why should they believe you know?
I'm using very simplified logic here, obviously. Just saying that he was leaving for a while was what opened the floodgates. I imagine if he was stretchered out or something like that it'd be far more sympathetic...only problem there is that it has the audacity to present Cena as weak. Can't be having that, so instead we just get "I'm only leaving because these jerks with their fancy medical degrees are forcing me to." Which leads to what we saw last night.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 19:09:34 GMT -5
Totally get the Cena hate, but that came off really mean-spirited towards the man, it usually doesn't seem that way to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 19:11:35 GMT -5
I miss the days* when people would always get a show of respect after an awesome match, poor Sheamus suffered a similar fate after what he went through in that MitB match. *These days may be mostly imaginary. Edge vs Eddie Guerrero with a heel Eddie, Edge gets the win with a top rope ladder assisted ddt. Eddie gets a standing O post match That was a Daniel Bryan post-'Mania thing really. Eddie was ALWAYS cheered, at that event with many "smart" fans in attendance he was going to be cheered over Edge all match. That wasn't a case of respect, more the WWE not really seeing that Eddie was a much more popular wrestler than Edge at that point regardless of how they played him off as a bad guy.
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 20, 2013 19:13:43 GMT -5
I think the reaction was more along the lines of the fans saying, "Yeah, we've heard this one before...see you in about two and a half hours, Cena." To that I say, did they see his f***ing elbow? Seriously, that thing was hideous. And he's obviously in need of surgery.
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BRV
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Post by BRV on Aug 20, 2013 19:18:03 GMT -5
I think the reaction was more along the lines of the fans saying, "Yeah, we've heard this one before...see you in about two and a half hours, Cena." To that I say, did they see his f***ing elbow? Seriously, that thing was hideous. And he's obviously in need of surgery. Didn't he get elbow surgery last October and missed literally one week of Raw? You can only cry wolf so many times before the townspeople decide to stop running up the hill. Believe me, I'm not trying to defend or validate booing a man who is in need of legitimate surgery and will legitimately be out of action for nearly half a year, but the key word there is "legitimate". We've had the wool pulled over our eyes by John Cena so many times in the past when it comes to being out of action that when the time comes that he is actually hurt and actually needs time off, we're ambivalent to it, even if the evidence is the size of a baseball and implanted in Cena's arm.
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 20, 2013 19:23:56 GMT -5
I agree that it was in bad taste to cheer him being forced out of action due to injury, but it is true that he made a bullshit speech at the end of Extreme Rules that to some extent could lead people to be suspicious or cynical.
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mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Aug 20, 2013 19:24:37 GMT -5
Edge vs Eddie Guerrero with a heel Eddie, Edge gets the win with a top rope ladder assisted ddt. Eddie gets a standing O post match That was a Daniel Bryan post-'Mania thing really. Eddie was ALWAYS cheered, at that event with many "smart" fans in attendance he was going to be cheered over Edge all match. That wasn't a case of respect, more the WWE not really seeing that Eddie was a much more popular wrestler than Edge at that point regardless of how they played him off as a bad guy. maybe it's just me, but I don't think Los Guerreros had trouble getting heel heat during the Smackdown six days and this was just before that period. And Edge got cheered when he won.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Aug 20, 2013 19:34:49 GMT -5
Cena's character is very stale, but I really don't like the lack of respect some fans show him. The "You Can't Wrestle" chant is the one that bugs me the most, when it's clear to anyone who knows the first thing about the sport that he can wrestle, and very well. When he comes back, he should play off of those chants and incorporate more wrestling moves that we haven't seen from him. Great way to heel it up and silence the smarks in the crowd. I heard his match with D-Bry was good but I haven't seen much of it to judge. I saw the part where they were slapping back and forth though. That was intense, a side of Cena that I have NEVER seen. That is what we need. Get rid of the weak-ass STFU and take some tips on submission holds from the legends. The STFU is so weak that I could do it drunk with one hand behind my back. I hope that when Cena comes back, that he's refreshed and even more intense than ever. That's what he needs. He doesn't need to be a full heel. He just needs to know when to "heel it up" to get more people into his matches.
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