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Post by Error on Aug 29, 2013 22:32:13 GMT -5
I had to miss the last hour or so. Am I reading this right? They gave Sting a title shot? After that stipulation that he would never get another shot? Good grief. Yeah, Hogan came out and said in 2 weeks Bully facing a member of the "Aces of Eights" but tonight he was defending the title against Sting, who then attacked and we went to Fightmaster or whatever crap follows Impact now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 22:34:28 GMT -5
Yeah there had to be a writing change because the two main stories (AJ and Sting getting a title shot) make no sense. If they wanted AJ to get in the top 4, they could have had him beat Roode by submission and avoided next week's gauntlet altogether. And Sting getting a title shot, unless it was a slip up by Hogan, is ridiculous. Slammiversary was only 2 months ago!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 22:37:27 GMT -5
I haven't got to see this episode yet because AUSTRALIA, but the announcement that Sting gets a title match makes me feel a little sick in my stomach. I heard all the jokes that Sting would have another title match the next week after he lost at Slammiversary, but I actually thought TNA would go through with it & honor their stipulation. I really wish I was right ... I keep wanting to love this company but they continually do stuff like this. Also a serious question - what does Hulk Hogan actually bring to the table at this point? I don't see how he makes the product/show any better. He's a huge expense every show he's on & he's done nothing that justifies spending that kind of money on him at this point. Both Sting & Hogan need to go. I can at least sort of understand Hulk's presence. He is the household name of all household names in wrestling and he's not in a wrestling capacity, it's arguable but I don't think he's pulling the spotlight away from guys. I would argue that Sting is far more harmful to what's going on in TNA than Hulk Hogan. A casual fan can look at Hulk Hogan today and be convinced that he's still the same guy he's always been. If casual fans still remember who Sting is, and even more if they don't, there's no way anyone's looking at him now and saying "yeah I could see why this guy is a big star", his matches are boring, his character is almost at that "I'm embarrassed to look at this guy with my friends" level. Yet they always have him in the main event and generally against guys who are up and coming, and deserve much better than Sting can give them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 22:39:14 GMT -5
That is from PWTorch. Maybe it was a slip up by Hogan.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 29, 2013 22:43:27 GMT -5
I haven't got to see this episode yet because AUSTRALIA, but the announcement that Sting gets a title match makes me feel a little sick in my stomach. I heard all the jokes that Sting would have another title match the next week after he lost at Slammiversary, but I actually thought TNA would go through with it & honor their stipulation. I really wish I was right ... I keep wanting to love this company but they continually do stuff like this. Also a serious question - what does Hulk Hogan actually bring to the table at this point? I don't see how he makes the product/show any better. He's a huge expense every show he's on & he's done nothing that justifies spending that kind of money on him at this point. Both Sting & Hogan need to go. I can at least sort of understand Hulk's presence. He is the household name of all household names in wrestling and he's not in a wrestling capacity, it's arguable but I don't think he's pulling the spotlight away from guys. I would argue that Sting is far more harmful to what's going on in TNA than Hulk Hogan. A casual fan can look at Hulk Hogan today and be convinced that he's still the same guy he's always been. If casual fans still remember who Sting is, and even more if they don't, there's no way anyone's looking at him now and saying "yeah I could see why this guy is a big star", his matches are boring, his character is almost at that "I'm embarrassed to look at this guy with my friends" level. Yet they always have him in the main event and generally against guys who are up and coming, and deserve much better than Sting can give them. I loved Sting, probably all the way up to Bound For Glory 2009 when he faced AJ Styles in what I thought was going to be his retirement match, and I wish it had been. Would of been a fantastic way for a legend to go out - putting over TNA's main home-grown talent on their biggest show of the year & retiring the proper way. Now he just looks like a old, decrepit clown who won't go away. It's such a shame seeing him become that - I always figured he would get out way before he became embarrassing. Hogan may still be a big name but he's not bringing in any more rating than they were getting before he got there - at least not enough to justify his massive price tag.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 22:55:33 GMT -5
Damn Hulk, why do you have to be so darn confusing?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 22:58:18 GMT -5
Damn Hulk, why do you have to be so darn confusing? I wouldn't be shocked if the backlash after the announcement led them to flip flop their plans
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Post by frankincleveland on Aug 29, 2013 22:59:27 GMT -5
My first TNA event and I have to say, it was pretty fun.
I liked the debut of "Aces of Eights" and I look forward to seeing other stables like "Aces with Eights" and "Aces or Eights".
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Post by Clueless Steve on Aug 29, 2013 23:00:46 GMT -5
Hulk's mind is starting to go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 23:00:51 GMT -5
Just got back from the taping, it was really fun because I've never seen any of those guys in person, but damn was it confusing from a storyline standpoint. {Spoiler}The Sting thing gets taken care of, Bully points out the stip and the match is made non-title.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Aug 29, 2013 23:11:56 GMT -5
I think we can safely say at this point, TNA just needs to shove him out there with a piece of paper and tell him to read it word for word so nonsense like this does not happen anymore.
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Post by Error on Aug 29, 2013 23:14:15 GMT -5
Just got back from the taping, it was really fun because I've never seen any of those guys in person, but damn was it confusing from a storyline standpoint. {Spoiler}The Sting thing gets taken care of, Bully points out the stip and the match is made non-title. Good. Should have never gotten to that but Hulk is clueless and needs to be kept to backstage and taped stuff. I swear he comes out drunk at times.
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Post by CH Punk on Aug 29, 2013 23:14:25 GMT -5
Okay, none of us are going crazy and we did hear Hogan mention that Bully's opponent would face him for the title, right?
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Post by Clueless Steve on Aug 29, 2013 23:17:52 GMT -5
Okay, none of us are going crazy and we did hear Hogan mention that Bully's opponent would face him for the title, right? He definitely said it. He also said "this week" as the show was going off the air. Either he's drunk or he experienced 3 simultaneous senior moments.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 23:24:25 GMT -5
Okay, none of us are going crazy and we did hear Hogan mention that Bully's opponent would face him for the title, right? He definitely said Sting was getting a title shot. I guess he messed up because he's defending at No Surrender. Ever since Hogan came back from his most recent health thing, I think it was mangling his hand or something, he's been all kinds of spaced out and loose on the mic.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Aug 29, 2013 23:55:18 GMT -5
Just got back from the taping, it was really fun because I've never seen any of those guys in person, but damn was it confusing from a storyline standpoint. {Spoiler}The Sting thing gets taken care of, Bully points out the stip and the match is made non-title. So can you say what else happened? Who won the gauntlet match? Hell who won this match?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 0:02:32 GMT -5
Just got back from the taping, it was really fun because I've never seen any of those guys in person, but damn was it confusing from a storyline standpoint. {Spoiler}The Sting thing gets taken care of, Bully points out the stip and the match is made non-title. So can you say what else happened? Who won the gauntlet match? Hell who won this match? Sure thing. I was going to do a spoiler for next week thread, but it was a long ass show so the details are a bit dicey, so I didn't go through with it. {Spoiler}AJ won the gauntlet, which was a Royal Rumble style battle royale, it came down to AJ and Daniels of course. AJ came out with his regular entrance, no more "transformation". Joe was the most over guy in the match, much disappointment when he was eliminated. There was also a large "APPLETINI" chant at one point.
Sting made Bully tap out with the Deathlock after Anderson refused to hand Bully a hammer (the match was randomly made no DQ, after Bully cut a promo saying Sting isn't allowed a title shot due to the Slammiversary stip). Anderson then came in the ring and talked shit to Bully, doing his Anderson....Anderson schtick and saing he's the Aces N' Eights guy who gets the title shot at No Surrender. I guess that constitutes a face turn.
As for what else...Eric Young beat Jay Bradley in a match taped for Xplosion. Wes N' Garrett beat Gunner N' Storm with some light cheating. Mickie James cut a promo and got interrupted by ODB, who she attacked from behind, but ODB got the upperhand. Aries, Magnus, Roode and Styles are the final 4 in the BFG, and had a promo segment where Styles (the points leader)chose to face Aries. So, Styles/Aries and Magnus/Roode at No Surrender.
There's probably more, I'm sure it'll come to me but over a 4 hour show with all the same people it all blends together.
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 30, 2013 0:16:50 GMT -5
Not for nothin' Cole but the f***ing show is taped an hour in advance. They could have just edited out the part where Hogan says it's a title match.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Aug 30, 2013 1:22:29 GMT -5
Not for nothin' Cole but the f***ing show is taped an hour in advance. They could have just edited out the part where Hogan says it's a title match. Good Lord. I totally forgot about that. What a needless error, then.
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Post by jimmyjames on Aug 30, 2013 1:27:53 GMT -5
When Bully asked Garrett what caused Aces & 8s to lose last week, did anyone else hear the guy in the audience who yelled out, "You failed just like your father"?
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