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Post by thetower52 on Sept 9, 2013 10:04:29 GMT -5
2k has pretty damn good public relations
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 11:46:29 GMT -5
2K hardly ever revealed anything about NBA 2K games until last two-three weeks before release when they drop in depth news left and right. They let you know what's going on in brief videos or articles throughout the year, but things like list of Classic teams (relatable to WWE roster) would leak out very late.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 11:55:26 GMT -5
I will never understand the public relations of these people. THQ was bad, but it seems like 2k will be worse. This late in the game and more than half the roster is unknown? That's not a good look. All they're doing is making gamers antsy. Antsy? Like how? You think somebody is honestly going to say "I'm not going to buy this game because they revealed the modern roster less than a month before the game came out." 2K is always on the 'build anticipation' mindset. It's not 'bad public relations' it's just what they do and it's worked for them so far. Yeah I don't see how its a big deal at all. Its not like theres gonna be any big surprises on the modern roster and its not like you're actually putting down money for it until the day it comes out. Hell, if you realllly want Ultimate Warrior I'm pretty sure you could preorder it up until the day before it comes out and still get him.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Sept 9, 2013 13:08:08 GMT -5
Nobody is seeing the potential positive, what if they aren't announcing it because they're wanting to cram some more recent additions in there?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 9, 2013 14:11:52 GMT -5
Nobody is seeing the potential positive, what if they aren't announcing it because they're wanting to cram some more recent additions in there? There's no way they're still adding people at this stage in development.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Sept 9, 2013 14:59:11 GMT -5
Nobody is seeing the potential positive, what if they aren't announcing it because they're wanting to cram some more recent additions in there? There's no way they're still adding people at this stage in development. Not necessarily still adding them from scratch but I'm thinking more final touch ups, quality checks etc. If any are problematic then they can be pulled out. Or maybe they're touching up models, making sure attires are up to date. I know this is not what we've come to expect from THQ but this is a new company hopefully with new ideas. Also I agree with you that I can't see how it matters whether the roster is announced 2 weeks or 2 months before release.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 15:11:17 GMT -5
People might need to line up their funds for something else. Like, maybe someone's split between Arkham Origins and 2K14 but can only afford one or the other; I'm sure at this point in the game someone would probably go with the former since of them there's a lot more information out about it. Granted, I think that game looks like shit and though I love the other two I don't intend to get it, but that's neither here nor there.
Incidentally, am I alone in completely hating these games having NPCs? I'm not asking to play as the referee or anything, but I can see no reason why I shouldn't be able to play as someone like Paul Bearer or Bobby Heenan if they're in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 15:31:35 GMT -5
People might need to line up their funds for something else. Like, maybe someone's split between Arkham Origins and 2K14 but can only afford one or the other; I'm sure at this point in the game someone would probably go with the former since of them there's a lot more information out about it. Granted, I think that game looks like shit and though I love the other two I don't intend to get it, but that's neither here nor there. Incidentally, am I alone in completely hating these games having NPCs? I'm not asking to play as the referee or anything, but I can see no reason why I shouldn't be able to play as someone like Paul Bearer or Bobby Heenan if they're in the game. I remember the old games where you could play as anyone. They should just make some generic "manager" moveset and have us use everyone since the characters are already in the game and are taking up a spot anyways.
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Post by Clueless Steve on Sept 9, 2013 16:21:32 GMT -5
2K is always on the 'build anticipation' mindset. It's not 'bad public relations' it's just what they do and it's worked for them so far. That might be the case with their other games, but not here. We've been jerked around by the people that put these games out for years. They haven't even had to release a roster for other games. They are regular sports titles. Everybody already knows who's gonna be in there and those rosters can be updated rather easily, certainly a lot more easily than this series. With the history this franchise has, at this point, it's not building anticipation. It's just yet another thing to be annoyed about.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 9, 2013 16:32:07 GMT -5
2K is always on the 'build anticipation' mindset. It's not 'bad public relations' it's just what they do and it's worked for them so far. That might be the case with their other games, but not here. We've been jerked around by the people that put these games out for years. They haven't even had to release a roster for other games. They are regular sports titles. Everybody already knows who's gonna be in there and those rosters can be updated rather easily, certainly a lot more easily than this series. With the history this franchise has, at this point, it's not building anticipation. It's just yet another thing to be annoyed about. Just seems like something that would only bother the impatient to me. They'll announce the roster sometime before the game is released. Does it matter how far out it is?
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Post by Clueless Steve on Sept 9, 2013 16:43:40 GMT -5
That might be the case with their other games, but not here. We've been jerked around by the people that put these games out for years. They haven't even had to release a roster for other games. They are regular sports titles. Everybody already knows who's gonna be in there and those rosters can be updated rather easily, certainly a lot more easily than this series. With the history this franchise has, at this point, it's not building anticipation. It's just yet another thing to be annoyed about. Just seems like something that would only bother the impatient to me. They'll announce the roster sometime before the game is released. Does it matter how far out it is? For some people, yeah. If somebody is on the fence, a longer wait could dissuade them from getting it, knowing how loaded the back end of the year is. A LOT of good games are coming out and even 2 new consoles. If the roster had come out already, people would know where they stand with the game and would act accordingly.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 9, 2013 17:00:42 GMT -5
Just seems like something that would only bother the impatient to me. They'll announce the roster sometime before the game is released. Does it matter how far out it is? For some people, yeah. If somebody is on the fence, a longer wait could dissuade them from getting it, knowing how loaded the back end of the year is. A LOT of good games are coming out and even 2 new consoles. If the roster had come out already, people would know where they stand with the game and would act accordingly. I sincerely doubt there is a high enough number of people in that situation to really care about and change the entire marketing strategy for. The people that really worry about the modern roster are most likely buying the game regardless.
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Post by PKO on Sept 9, 2013 17:52:46 GMT -5
Incidentally, am I alone in completely hating these games having NPCs? I'm not asking to play as the referee or anything, but I can see no reason why I shouldn't be able to play as someone like Paul Bearer or Bobby Heenan if they're in the game. If I could, I would play as the NPC's more than I would the actual roster. Ricardo Rodriguez and Paul Bearer would have had some epic HIAC matches in WWE13. I used to love destroying Pat Patterson, Michael Cole, Gerald Brisco and Linda McMahon / have them destroy main eventers. If they're on the disc why not make them playable? Games are supposed to be fun and letting you play as anyone is fun.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Sept 9, 2013 17:55:02 GMT -5
According to The SmackDown Hotel this is the roster as seen on their website. Seems a bit dodgy due to no Shield or Kaitlyn but this is what they have. AJ Lee Alberto Del Rio Andre the Giant Antonio Cesaro Batista Big John Studd Big Show Big Show (Retro) Bobby Heenan (NPC) Bret Hart Brie Bella Brock Lesnar Brock Lesnar (Retro) Brodus Clay Bruno Sammartino Chris Jericho Chris Jericho (Retro) Christian CM Punk Cody Rhodes Damien Sandow Daniel Bryan Darren Young David Otunga Diesel Dolph Ziggler Drew McIntyre Edge Goldberg Heath Slater Hollywood Hulk Hogan Hulk Hogan Jack Swagger JBL Jinder Mahal John Cena John Cena (Retro) Justin Gabriel Kane Kane (Retro) King Kong Bundy Kofi Kingston Layla Lita Macho Man Randy Savage Mark Henry Mick Foley Million Dollar Man Miss Elizabeth (NPC) Natalya Nikki Bella Paul Bearer (NPC) Paul Heyman (NPC) R-Truth Randy Orton Razor Ramon Rey Mysterio Ricardo Rodriguez (NPC) Ric Flair Ric Flair (Retro) Ricky Steamboat Roddy Piper Ryback Santino Marella Sgt. Slaughter Shawn Michaels Shawn Michaels (Retro) Sheamus Sin Cara Steve Austin Tensai The Great Khali The Miz The Rock The Rock (Retro) Titus O'Neil Triple H Triple H (Retro) Ultimate Warrior (DLC) Undertaker Undertaker (ABA) (DLC) Undertaker (Retro) Wade Barrett Yokozuna Zack Ryder If true, why am I not surprised they'd be idiots and make the Shield (presumably) DLC?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 9, 2013 17:56:20 GMT -5
I kinda hope there isn't any DLC for this game.
Put all of the work and focus on the next-gen debut next year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2013 17:57:29 GMT -5
According to The SmackDown Hotel this is the roster as seen on their website. Seems a bit dodgy due to no Shield or Kaitlyn but this is what they have. AJ Lee Alberto Del Rio Andre the Giant Antonio Cesaro Batista Big John Studd Big Show Big Show (Retro) Bobby Heenan (NPC) Bret Hart Brie Bella Brock Lesnar Brock Lesnar (Retro) Brodus Clay Bruno Sammartino Chris Jericho Chris Jericho (Retro) Christian CM Punk Cody Rhodes Damien Sandow Daniel Bryan Darren Young David Otunga Diesel Dolph Ziggler Drew McIntyre Edge Goldberg Heath Slater Hollywood Hulk Hogan Hulk Hogan Jack Swagger JBL Jinder Mahal John Cena John Cena (Retro) Justin Gabriel Kane Kane (Retro) King Kong Bundy Kofi Kingston Layla Lita Macho Man Randy Savage Mark Henry Mick Foley Million Dollar Man Miss Elizabeth (NPC) Natalya Nikki Bella Paul Bearer (NPC) Paul Heyman (NPC) R-Truth Randy Orton Razor Ramon Rey Mysterio Ricardo Rodriguez (NPC) Ric Flair Ric Flair (Retro) Ricky Steamboat Roddy Piper Ryback Santino Marella Sgt. Slaughter Shawn Michaels Shawn Michaels (Retro) Sheamus Sin Cara Steve Austin Tensai The Great Khali The Miz The Rock The Rock (Retro) Titus O'Neil Triple H Triple H (Retro) Ultimate Warrior (DLC) Undertaker Undertaker (ABA) (DLC) Undertaker (Retro) Wade Barrett Yokozuna Zack Ryder If true, why am I not surprised they'd be idiots and make the Shield (presumably) DLC? It would be par for the course with them if they weren't in at all, particularly with how in the past for people who debut as a unit - like the Spirit Squad - they seem to prefer just providing you their entrance and expecting you to do the work yourself. Given they debuted in November there is really no excuse if they're not on the disc, though. Honestly, if they're not in it that'll probably make me less likely to buy it. I'm not intending to get the game at launch as it stands, but the fact that the Shield is fun to play as CAW-wise and I want to use them properly with their entrance and all of that is one of the main things for 14 I'm interested in.
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Post by Clueless Steve on Sept 9, 2013 18:04:37 GMT -5
I kinda hope there isn't any DLC for this game. Put all of the work and focus on the next-gen debut next year. 2k probably already has a team working on next-gen. I honestly believe this is Yukes' swansong. That would be the best move. Have the old team already in place to crank out this year's game and have a new one already working on the next-gen leap. I just hope we're done with Yukes.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 9, 2013 18:08:49 GMT -5
I kinda hope there isn't any DLC for this game. Put all of the work and focus on the next-gen debut next year. 2k probably already has a team working on next-gen. I honestly believe this is Yukes' swansong. That would be the best move. Have the old team already in place to crank out this year's game and have a new one already working on the next-gen leap. I just hope we're done with Yukes. Oh my god I hope so. If they keep Yukes on and try to sell their frankensteined PS1 engine again.....The series might as well be dead in the water on next gen.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Sept 9, 2013 19:58:31 GMT -5
I'd be kinda annoyed if Kaitlyn isn't included. I mean, she was champ for quite a while, and was involved in the main divas storyline for quite some time. Would be par for course as far as Yukes go though.
Also, do you think we'll get Curtis Axel? I mean, he debuted just after WM, and isn't the cut off usually just after WM? Or is it before?
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Post by Waffel113 on Sept 9, 2013 20:10:07 GMT -5
I'd be kinda annoyed if Kaitlyn isn't included. I mean, she was champ for quite a while, and was involved in the main divas storyline for quite some time. Would be par for course as far as Yukes go though. Also, do you think we'll get Curtis Axel? I mean, he debuted just after WM, and isn't the cut off usually just after WM? Or is it before? I hope we get Axel. I'm one of the countable-on-two-hands Axel marks here I think.
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