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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 30, 2013 15:23:12 GMT -5
Having them face each other so often will kill this storyline. The plotline should be that DB can't even get to Orton in a sanctioned match.
Hell in the Cell has been redundant for years. In the absence of blood it loses its impact.
I question whether that promo made AJ a heel.
Interesting.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 30, 2013 15:28:16 GMT -5
"Which begs the question why AJ Lee buried the show and everyone on it on Raw. There were Total Divas cameras backstage filming everyone before the promo, during the promo, and afterwards, so it'll all air on one of the six new episodes that were signed for season one several weeks ago. I don't have a problem so much with AJ burying the girls, because she is a heel and it's also going to lead to an AJ vs. Divas cast member match at Night of Champions (which my guess will lead to a title change, which will be the "main event" of the final episode of the first season), but it was weird to have the announcers admit that she was right about everything she said."
I hope this part is true, the rest is in the "Crap we already knew about!" category. I'd love to see how that promo and their reactions will play out on the show.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 15:31:46 GMT -5
Hell in the Cell has been redundant for years. In the absence of blood it loses its impact. Everything you can really do in Hell in a Cell's been done at this point anyway. I think the last great one before Triple H / Undertaker was the Triple H / Batista one and that's a seven year gap.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 15:34:32 GMT -5
HIAC should have been retired after the Taker/Foley fiasco, there's no way for it to live up to the standard that that and the HBK/Taker match set.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 30, 2013 15:38:03 GMT -5
HIAC should have been retired after the Taker/Foley fiasco, there's no way for it to live up to the standard that that and the HBK/Taker match set. There is, but the PG rating would have to be finally lifted. Which won't happen because of Mattel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 15:44:18 GMT -5
HIAC should have been retired after the Taker/Foley fiasco, there's no way for it to live up to the standard that that and the HBK/Taker match set. I disagree, on the basis that the Triple H / Taker, Triple H / Batista, Taker / Lesnar, and Triple H / Cactus Jack matches exist.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 30, 2013 15:48:24 GMT -5
All the stuff they can do with the cell can be done in the elimination chamber, except for getting onto the roof, which is cliched now anyway.
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Aug 30, 2013 16:05:41 GMT -5
HIAC should have been retired after the Taker/Foley fiasco, there's no way for it to live up to the standard that that and the HBK/Taker match set. There is, but the PG rating would have to be finally lifted. Which won't happen because of Mattel. It's not the rating. PG allows for blood, violence etc. With the cell match in particular, it's never going to live up to the hardcore nature of the old days. So what it should have become is the ultimate feud ender, where the heel's been ducking the face for weeks and it all leads up to a match in which he can't run away. That's the point of a cell. But as they've used it so often, people expect horribly pointless spots left right and centre.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 30, 2013 17:07:41 GMT -5
The cell should have guns hanging from the interior walls. Mattel happily market those to kids anyway.
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Post by celticjobber on Aug 30, 2013 19:18:38 GMT -5
There is, but the PG rating would have to be finally lifted. Which won't happen because of Mattel. It's not the rating. PG allows for blood, violence etc. With the cell match in particular, it's never going to live up to the hardcore nature of the old days. So what it should have become is the ultimate feud ender, where the heel's been ducking the face for weeks and it all leads up to a match in which he can't run away. That's the point of a cell. But as they've used it so often, people expect horribly pointless spots left right and centre. I'm pretty sure that the deal with Mattel prohibits blood, choking, and depictions of male-on-female violence.
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Aug 30, 2013 19:23:33 GMT -5
Kane is one of my all time favorites, but ffs don't give another Bray/Kane match. Hell, Kane shouldn't even be in singles matches anymore.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 30, 2013 19:28:27 GMT -5
HIAC should have been retired after the Taker/Foley fiasco, there's no way for it to live up to the standard that that and the HBK/Taker match set. things like HiaC should not have to live up to anything, they should simply have to entertain on their own merits
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Aug 30, 2013 19:34:35 GMT -5
HitC has been the obvious one to cut for years now. There's no reason to have two PPVs in October, especially when one of those PPVs kills your ultimate gimmick match that is supposed to drive people to drop the cash on a rare match type. Elimination Chamber is okay setting up for WM, but this one should be used sparingly, and for a good reason. WWE have made some pretty positive changes in the past few years, so I hope to see them cut this going into 2014.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 19:38:56 GMT -5
HIAC should have been retired after the Taker/Foley fiasco, there's no way for it to live up to the standard that that and the HBK/Taker match set. things like HiaC should not have to live up to anything, they should simply have to entertain on their own merits That's fine in theory, but a major selling point is the brutality of it and constant clips of Foley tossed off of it and HBK trying to climb up it, etc. when nothing like that is going to happen again(and for good reason)
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Aug 30, 2013 20:07:13 GMT -5
HIAC should have been retired after the Taker/Foley fiasco, there's no way for it to live up to the standard that that and the HBK/Taker match set. things like HiaC should not have to live up to anything, they should simply have to entertain on their own merits And on their own merits over the past 5 years most of them have been boring as shit. I don't need gallons of blood and people falling off or through the cell, but they all cell matches need some kind of omph.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 30, 2013 20:09:22 GMT -5
HIAC should have been retired after the Taker/Foley fiasco, there's no way for it to live up to the standard that that and the HBK/Taker match set. things like HiaC should not have to live up to anything, they should simply have to entertain on their own merits Not when WWE makes a point to emphasis the history and brutality of the gimmick. You can't press the reset button after every match and wipe people's memories.
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