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Post by Throwback on Sept 1, 2013 9:23:27 GMT -5
During an interview on Larry King after the Benoit issue.
HHH: The matches are scripted Larry: So be fore the match somebody would say "HHH you'e going to beat Chris Jericho tonight"? Jericho: That's usually how it goes.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Sept 1, 2013 9:27:41 GMT -5
the people owning a "burryng HHH" gif, it's the good time to post it
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Post by Some Guy on Sept 1, 2013 11:14:57 GMT -5
I was more annoyed by him losing to Shawn Michaels the following year. You mean the one where Shawn won with a fluke roll-up, and then Jericho beat him a few months later on Raw? It was a far, far better feud than HHH/Jericho.
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Post by percymania on Sept 1, 2013 12:28:11 GMT -5
As a Jerichoholic, this angle helped turn me away from the WWE for a few years.
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Post by cabbageboy on Sept 1, 2013 13:56:19 GMT -5
It's disturbing to think back on this feud. Consider what should have been one of the biggest deals ever, namely the crowning of a unified champion, was essentially a tool to set up Jericho as a lame duck champion waiting for HHH to squash him. Considering Jericho cheated outrageously to beat both Rock and Austin I can see why someone wouldn't be thrilled with his title win, and I can also see why guys like Austin and Rock wouldn't be excited about putting Jericho over if all they were going to do was feed him to HHH. Rock didn't care, since he had the upcoming Hogan feud, but you could tell from the way Austin wrestled Jericho at No Way Out 2002 that he really, really didn't want to be there.
There's a bizarre revisionist history however that goes like this: Jericho was booked fabulously in the WWF before this HHH feud in 2002. Jericho was booked horribly almost from day 1 if you think about it. Even his heralded debut really meant nothing if you think about it. It led to no feud with The Rock, and in fact Jericho mostly got buried horribly during that segment. Jericho spent the rest of 1999 screwing around with Road Dogg and X-Pac, and didn't really win against either guy. Then he jobbed to Chyna. Chyna! Once he finally beat Chyna he ended up as co IC champ with her and feuded with Bob Holly before ending up mostly jobbing in IC title matches in 2000 to Benoit.
He got that first PPV match with HHH in July 2000 (along with the phantom title win) and he really needed to go over in the Last Man Standing, but of course he didn't. Then he ended up in a feud with Kane over spilling hot coffee. He also ended up feuding with William Regal over the IC title and peed in Regal's tea, culminating in the idiotic Duchess of Queensbury Rules match. During the Invasion he mostly existed to put over/feud with various Alliance guys like Rhino and RVD. He finally got a big win over Rock at No Mercy 2001, but it lasted 2 weeks before Rock regained the WCW title.
I guess my point in all of that was to point out that Jericho's booking in 2002 wasn't really much different than the way he was jobbed out for most of his WWE career, or put in bad storylines.
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Post by sunnytaker on Sept 1, 2013 15:51:38 GMT -5
During an interview on Larry King after the Benoit issue. HHH: The matches are scripted Larry: So be fore the match somebody would say "HHH you'e going to beat Chris Jericho tonight"? Jericho: That's usually how it goes. i think i remember seeing this clip. as soon as jericho says this HHH starts to look over at him but then looks the other way cause he was on the verge of cracking up.
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Post by kamero00 on Sept 1, 2013 17:55:17 GMT -5
lol look on the bright side, Triple HHH dropped to title to Hogan less than 30 days later.
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Post by I've got some bad news... on Sept 1, 2013 21:42:49 GMT -5
This was the year that they had a Hell in a Cell match, right? I never figured their feud to be that heated that it needed to go there. Hell, and that was only Triple H's second (third? I forget if he was in the Armageddon match or not) Cell match. Or maybe The Rock has to be Triple H himself, which means uhhhhh, he's gotta beat The Game uhhhhh, in the middle of the ring uhhhhh, and he has a 2 dollar s*** for a wife uhhhhh.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 1, 2013 21:44:36 GMT -5
Hated it
Hated, hated, hated.
Plus HHH can never get his story right on whether he wanted that match to follow Rock/Hogan
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Post by Juice on Sept 1, 2013 22:24:51 GMT -5
I was more annoyed by him losing to Shawn Michaels the following year. You mean the one where Shawn won with a fluke roll-up, and then Jericho beat him a few months later on Raw? It was a far, far better feud than HHH/Jericho. Y2J should have won this match. I don't really remember the HHH feud at all that's being addressed. I do remember losing my freaking mind during the first feud so perhaps the trauma of HHH reversing the decision and taking the title from Jericho shielded me from the 02 travesty.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Sept 1, 2013 22:27:02 GMT -5
You mean the one where Shawn won with a fluke roll-up, and then Jericho beat him a few months later on Raw? It was a far, far better feud than HHH/Jericho. Y2J should have won this match. I don't really remember the HHH feud at all that's being addressed. I do remember losing my freaking mind during the first feud so perhaps the trauma of HHH reversing the decision and taking the title from Jericho shielded me from the 02 travesty. Since HBK stayed around a few more years then people thought he might have in hindsight I have no problem with HBK winning that match.
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Post by Juice on Sept 1, 2013 22:29:40 GMT -5
Y2J should have won this match. I don't really remember the HHH feud at all that's being addressed. I do remember losing my freaking mind during the first feud so perhaps the trauma of HHH reversing the decision and taking the title from Jericho shielded me from the 02 travesty. Since HBK stayed around a few more years then people thought he might have in hindsight I have no problem with HBK winning that match. HBK stuck around to be a JTTS and put just about everyone over. So why not Jericho?
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Sept 1, 2013 22:35:36 GMT -5
Since HBK stayed around a few more years then people thought he might have in hindsight I have no problem with HBK winning that match. HBK stuck around to be a JTTS and put just about everyone over. So why not Jericho? I've come to the conclusion just because its a vet vs. guy in his prime doesn't mean one should have to be put over. Just enjoy the feud as long as no one is buried.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 1, 2013 22:40:01 GMT -5
I never liked Jericho since the day I first saw him. So watching HHH wear him out at every turn was just fine by me. really? never seen anybody dislike Jericho amongst the iwc.
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Post by Some Guy on Sept 1, 2013 22:45:11 GMT -5
Since HBK stayed around a few more years then people thought he might have in hindsight I have no problem with HBK winning that match. HBK stuck around to be a JTTS and put just about everyone over. So why not Jericho? It worked better for their amazing 2008 feud that Shawn won at Mania.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Sept 1, 2013 22:54:17 GMT -5
Why on earth did this ME over Rock/Hogan? Is there a legitimate reason for it? Please answer this. Not with usual HHHate but a real reason.
I would like to add though that Stephanie looked f***ing AMAZING at WM 18. Just stunning.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 1, 2013 23:07:27 GMT -5
Why on earth did this ME over Rock/Hogan? Is there a legitimate reason for it? Please answer this. Not with usual HHHate but a real reason. I would like to add though that Stephanie looked f***ing AMAZING at WM 18. Just stunning. It depends on what your definition of HHHate is. Because by all accounts, it was HHH's call to have their match be the main event. He was the one who lobbied for it and fought for it to stay the last match on the show. By all accounts, even Jericho knew it was a mistake. And, since then, HHH's flip flopped numerous times on if he made the call or not, trying to skirt the responsibility. Fact of the matter is, even as a fan who vastly preferred HHH and Jericho over Rock, I was baffled when I saw Rock & Hogan go on before the WWE title match.
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Post by Rave on Sept 1, 2013 23:16:26 GMT -5
Wasn't it this feud where Jericho pitched that Stephanie be cheating on Trips with him and he was shot down because "Trips was too smart for them to get away with it"?
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 1, 2013 23:20:06 GMT -5
Wasn't it this feud where Jericho pitched that Stephanie be cheating on Trips with him and he was shot down because "Trips was too smart for them to get away with it"? Eyup. According to Jericho, and a few others, Haitch said that "He would know if Stephanie was cheating on him with another man".
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Post by Lazy peon on Sept 2, 2013 0:17:24 GMT -5
Wasn't it this feud where Jericho pitched that Stephanie be cheating on Trips with him and he was shot down because "Trips was too smart for them to get away with it"? Eyup. According to Jericho, and a few others, Haitch said that "He would know if Stephanie was cheating on him with another man". ...He knows they meant in kayfabe, right?
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