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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 2, 2013 22:13:58 GMT -5
People are demanding major developments because they are in the mentality that every story must play out between every PPV
NOC will be just another episode in the story, albeit probably a little bigger. That's the only way to book a long term story.
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Post by Andy Martin on Sept 2, 2013 22:14:20 GMT -5
Now...where's the people who are saying..."we'll see where this goes". I'm sorry...but I knew by last week that they f***ed this entire thing up. It was that obvious. Next week, Bryan will come out, not seek retribution against those who wronged him, and get beat down again. Because, that's going to hold my interest until the PPV, especially since Bryan isn't likely going to win the title right back. 0 Still right here. You'll get your revolt(or at least the start of it) the Raw after NoC(Which will feature so SHHHenanigans)
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 2, 2013 22:15:14 GMT -5
They need to ignore the "we saw this already" opinions and persist with their slow build. Don't blow the load in less than a month. Personally I welcome the return of slow developing stories. Everytime they leave DB in a battered heap, it makes them look even more evil, and thus makes the payoff more satisfying when DB eventually defeats them Some people here would have had Daniel LaRusso beat the Cobra Kai on the beach I'm not saying have Bryan beat Orton clean at NOC while he makes every Shield member tap out while dropkicking both HHH and Steph...I'm saying that if the villains of this little angle don't get ANY comeuppance soon (and I'm talking small victories here and there) people are going to see Bryan as someone who can't beat anyone. THAT'S the problem. You have something too one sided and nobody is going to buy the good guy winning. No, the more one-sided it is now, the better the payoff will be when DB eventually does bring them down. A balanced feud is the LAST thing Daniel Bryan needs.
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Post by Snaptastic on Sept 2, 2013 22:16:43 GMT -5
People are demanding major developments because they are in the mentality that every story must play out between every PPV NOC will be just another episode in the story, albeit probably a little bigger. That's the only way to book a long term story. Sure I get that, but you have to mix in some variety or your audience gets bored. It should really be alternating outcomes for the most part. One week Bryan comes out beaten, the next he goes on a tear with a steel chair leaving Orton laid out. All this does it make Bryan look like a chump. Also I hate to say it, but it's also making The Shield a bit...stale.
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Post by SenorCrest on Sept 2, 2013 22:16:58 GMT -5
I am feeling this storyline. It feels like its building something up, setting shit up left and right. I think the ones that are writing this out are the ones that want Daniel Bryan to win everything every time or are impatient.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 22:17:44 GMT -5
People are demanding major developments because they are in the mentality that every story must play out between every PPV NOC will be just another episode in the story, albeit probably a little bigger. That's the only way to book a long term story. Doesn't necessarily need to be something huge, just something. Have Bryan chase the Shield off with a chair. Have him manage to slip out of the ring and taunt them from the crowd. Just, "Triple powerbomb while the roster watches," has happened three weeks in a row and they same thing has basically been happening on SmackDown.
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 2, 2013 22:17:54 GMT -5
Remember in 1996 when the NWO beat up Randy Savage every week and he looked like a complete bitch all the time? Worked real well for Randy Savage.
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Post by CH Punk on Sept 2, 2013 22:18:04 GMT -5
They're doing a good job of making the Corporation look some evil mofo's the problem is that there is just so much TV that it gets really old really fast when D-Bry is getting laid out on Raw and SD every week. I imagine that D-Bry will beat up Wade Barrett or someone else of little consequence on Smackdown this week. It really is this. I know they want Smackdown to look like a big deal, so they're having the WWE Title feud extend to it, but had this just been the third rather than the fifth beatdown on Bryan, it would have been an bit easier to swallow.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2013 22:18:09 GMT -5
I'm laughing my ass off at Ziggler getting jumped by Ambrose and then cherry picked by Ryback and just standing on the stage like nothing happened.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 2, 2013 22:18:16 GMT -5
To put in these terms, Jaws killed many people, and caused massive damage to Amity's peace and tranquility before eventually, as a last ditch effort, the big damn heroes went after him, and even then, it took everything they had to beat him. But when they blew him up, it was satisfying. You have to set up a near invincible enemy first, who wins time after time after time, before the hero prevails, and ultimately DB will, once the rebels gather. That's how he'll beat them.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 2, 2013 22:19:13 GMT -5
People are demanding major developments because they are in the mentality that every story must play out between every PPV NOC will be just another episode in the story, albeit probably a little bigger. That's the only way to book a long term story. Sure I get that, but you have to mix in some variety or your audience gets bored. It should really be alternating outcomes for the most part. One week Bryan comes out beaten, the next he goes on a tear with a steel chair leaving Orton laid out. All this does it make Bryan look like a chump. Also I hate to say it, but it's also making The Shield a bit...stale. He could try to get Orton with a chair, but Orton should always escape. He needs to play the role of the heel who only strikes when the face is already down.
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Post by Snaptastic on Sept 2, 2013 22:20:09 GMT -5
Sure I get that, but you have to mix in some variety or your audience gets bored. It should really be alternating outcomes for the most part. One week Bryan comes out beaten, the next he goes on a tear with a steel chair leaving Orton laid out. All this does it make Bryan look like a chump. Also I hate to say it, but it's also making The Shield a bit...stale. He could try to get Orton with a chair, but Orton should always escape. He needs to play the role of the heel who only strikes when the face is already down. I appreciate the cowardly heel who thinks otherwise as much as the next person. But you have to give some kind of glimmer. Hell I'd take one segment where Bryan chases Orton out of the building with a chair or something.
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Sept 2, 2013 22:20:29 GMT -5
1988 - "Macho and Hogan are STILL friends? Booo, we saw that last week!!!" 1996 - "Another guy joined the NWO? They beat someone up again? Boooo, this is boring!!" 1997 - "Goldberg pinned another guy? Yawn. How many is that now? 6? Do something else!!!" Patience, people. 2014 - "Vince buys TNA? Been there done that guys. Whatevs!!!"
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 2, 2013 22:20:31 GMT -5
Remember in 1996 when the NWO beat up Randy Savage every week and he looked like a complete bitch all the time? Worked real well for Randy Savage. It did lead to a killer feud with DDP. I'll take that.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 2, 2013 22:21:35 GMT -5
He could try to get Orton with a chair, but Orton should always escape. He needs to play the role of the heel who only strikes when the face is already down. I appreciate the cowardly heel who thinks otherwise as much as the next person. But you have to give some kind of glimmer. Hell I'd take one segment where Bryan chases Orton out of the building with a chair or something. What they should do eventually, is have DB take out the SHIELD, one week at a time. So eventually, Orton and HHH's support system is removed. But not yet. DB needs to be pummelled more first.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Sept 2, 2013 22:21:41 GMT -5
I'm laughing my ass off at Ziggler getting jumped by Ambrose and then cherry picked by Ryback and just standing on the stage like nothing happened. Ryback was even standing on the stage, too. You'd think Ziggler'd just pick a fight with Ryback and be like "Hunner, I'm not involved with your shit, I'm just getting some payback on this asshole!"
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 2, 2013 22:22:24 GMT -5
Didn't Mick Foley have a feud with Evolution where he got his ass kicked every single time?
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Post by Snaptastic on Sept 2, 2013 22:23:08 GMT -5
I appreciate the cowardly heel who thinks otherwise as much as the next person. But you have to give some kind of glimmer. Hell I'd take one segment where Bryan chases Orton out of the building with a chair or something. What they should do eventually, is have DB take out the SHIELD, one week at a time. So eventually, Orton and HHH's support system is removed. But not yet. DB needs to be pummelled more first. I'm thinking back to 2000, RAW the night after Judgement Day. The Rock caught each member of the corporation off guard and went about picking them off one by one. Something similar with Bryan needs to happen soon.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 2, 2013 22:25:36 GMT -5
I appreciate the cowardly heel who thinks otherwise as much as the next person. But you have to give some kind of glimmer. Hell I'd take one segment where Bryan chases Orton out of the building with a chair or something. What they should do eventually, is have DB take out the SHIELD, one week at a time. So eventually, Orton and HHH's support system is removed. But not yet. DB needs to be pummelled more first. YOU may want to see the same thing each week, but I'm telling you, people in the audience are going to get pretty damn sick of being yanked around to the point of not caring. And then Bryan's cheers are put back on par with a Kofi Kingston. The movie analogy doesn't work because you don't come back week after week to see the shark get his only to see him eat yet another person. People would get bored of that shit too real quick.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Sept 2, 2013 22:29:16 GMT -5
2 more weeks and CM Punk can finally f***ing save Bryan and me from this boredom.
Seriously Axel, just go away.
Also, Jaws is a 2 hour movie where we know the ending is coming soon. This shit has been going on 3 weeks and not once has anything developed. Who cares about Big Show, anyway?
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