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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 4, 2013 19:36:42 GMT -5
Can't be said enough, corporate asshole Triple H is great. Also, Michael Cole has excelled as the face announcer opposed to the new regime.
I'm guessing on Raw, Triple H is going to throw D-Bry into a tag match, with Cole as a tag partner.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 4, 2013 19:39:29 GMT -5
Every time they kill DB, HHH should have a sad look on his face, as if to say "I'm sorry bro....but you're making me do this"
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Post by Jam on Sept 4, 2013 20:59:34 GMT -5
I still don't get how the guy who everyone loves is bad for "business", but the douchbag asshole who everyone hates is right for business? I would think the guy people want to see is the obvious choice for "face of the WWE".
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 4, 2013 21:11:35 GMT -5
I still don't get how the guy who everyone loves is bad for "business", but the douchbag asshole who everyone hates is right for business? I would think the guy people want to see is the obvious choice for "face of the WWE". Because of Doink...and 9 times... and beards...
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Sept 4, 2013 21:27:16 GMT -5
Haitch is great in these types of things
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Post by nickcave on Sept 4, 2013 22:12:09 GMT -5
I like Michael Cole's role in this right now but it's kind of funny to think that two years down the line from him ripping on Bryan every week that he would be Daniel Bryan's biggest supporter in a war against the establishment
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 4, 2013 22:12:31 GMT -5
I still don't get how the guy who everyone loves is bad for "business", but the douchbag asshole who everyone hates is right for business? I would think the guy people want to see is the obvious choice for "face of the WWE". Because it antagonises the fans, and makes them support the face even more if the asshole corporate suits oppose him
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 4, 2013 22:20:19 GMT -5
I still don't get how the guy who everyone loves is bad for "business", but the douchbag asshole who everyone hates is right for business? I would think the guy people want to see is the obvious choice for "face of the WWE". That's the point. They want Orton, their hand picked guy, over someone people actually love like Bryan. Hell, I'm even sure when Cena comes back Hunter will say he's not fit either because he's bends to the WWE Universe unlike Orton who couldn't give two shits. Cena, the guy who's in movies and commercials and sells loads of merchandise=unfit to the face of the WWE over Orton. They're hypocritical iditos.
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Post by "American Nightmare" B.B. Bart on Sept 4, 2013 22:42:01 GMT -5
I like Michael Cole's role in this right now but it's kind of funny to think that two years down the line from him ripping on Bryan every week that he would be Daniel Bryan's biggest supporter in a war against the establishment They could easily patch up any hole created by Cole doing a 180 on Bryan by having him mention that DB's tenacity and guts grew on him to a point to where any ill wills are all but gone.
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Post by Lancers on Sept 4, 2013 22:50:42 GMT -5
Hell, I'm even sure when Cena comes back Hunter will say he's not fit either because he's bends to the WWE Universe unlike Orton who couldn't give two shits. Cena, the guy who's in movies and commercials and sells loads of merchandise=unfit to the face of the WWE over Orton. Which is the exact moment when the wheels completely go off the rails on this story. Cena epitomizes what a corporation would want in their number one guy. Doesn't cause controversy on Twitter. Popular with charities and public awareness campaigns. No criminal record. No failed drug tests. He's PERFECT for the WWE to use as their face.
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Post by kamero00 on Sept 4, 2013 22:54:42 GMT -5
Heels are supposed to be hated, and Triple H is GREAT at being hated. The best pure heel in the last 20 years. Rock was entertaining as hell as a heel, but people still cheered/liked him. No one likes Triple H when he is a heel
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 4, 2013 22:58:16 GMT -5
I still don't get how the guy who everyone loves is bad for "business", but the douchbag asshole who everyone hates is right for business? I would think the guy people want to see is the obvious choice for "face of the WWE". Based on HHH and Orton's history, I can believe that HHH sees Randy Orton as his "heir" that he molded in his own image, and thus the perfect candidate to hold the WWE Championship now that he is no longer a full time wrestler.
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Post by Jam on Sept 4, 2013 23:02:29 GMT -5
I still don't get how the guy who everyone loves is bad for "business", but the douchbag asshole who everyone hates is right for business? I would think the guy people want to see is the obvious choice for "face of the WWE". Because it antagonises the fans, and makes them support the face even more if the asshole corporate suits oppose him That's a horrible business plan. In the words of Joe Dirt "It's not what you want, it's the consumer." Randy Orton=Snakes and Sparklers. We, the WWE Universe, want something that goes boom. Something that explodes, man. I'm digging this angle though. It's been a while since I've actually been emotionally invested in WWE storyline. When Daniel Bryan and company finally get one up on The Corporation it's going to be awesome.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 4, 2013 23:09:54 GMT -5
Because it antagonises the fans, and makes them support the face even more if the asshole corporate suits oppose him That's a horrible business plan. In the words of Joe Dirt "It's not what you want, it's the consumer." Randy Orton=Snakes and Sparklers. We, the WWE Universe, want something that goes boom. Something that explodes, man. I'm digging this angle though. It's been a while since I've actually been emotionally invested in WWE storyline. When Daniel Bryan and company finally get one up on The Corporation it's going to be awesome. The fans want obstacles to be placed in Daniel Bryan's way. That's what makes faces appealing. They like seeing their heroes overcome challenges and bring down the villain at the end. Orton and HHH have to be built up first, so the fans get so incensed at the way they are treating Bryan, they can't wait until he finally kicks their heads in and wins the title and holds it for a significant period of time. At that time, the announcers (especially Cole who has been given a new purpose and meaning by turning pro-Bryan) should sell it like this = "After overcoming all odds, every challenge placed in his path, he has arrived....ladies and gentlemen....this is the face of the company....the WWE Champion....DANIEL BRYAN!"
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 4, 2013 23:20:43 GMT -5
Hell, I'm even sure when Cena comes back Hunter will say he's not fit either because he's bends to the WWE Universe unlike Orton who couldn't give two shits. Cena, the guy who's in movies and commercials and sells loads of merchandise=unfit to the face of the WWE over Orton. Which is the exact moment when the wheels completely go off the rails on this story. Cena epitomizes what a corporation would want in their number one guy. Doesn't cause controversy on Twittern. Popular with charities and public awareness campaigns. No criminal record. No failed drug tests. He's PERFECT for the WWE to use as their face. Sure, in real life he's great. But in kayfabe, with the boss being evil and corrupt morons who just want someone who does what they say even if it's immoral, Cena's not that guy. He can be a dick sometimes, but he'd never be down with Shield beatdowns and unjust firings. Unlike Orton who's willing to sell his soul and be the McMahon's coporate puppet, Cena would never do that unless it was some weird stipulation (like Cena joining Nexus). Also this segment right here where Vince says he wants someone to beat John Cena at Summerslam, someone ruthless, someone like Hunter only 20 years younger. Who better than the guy Hunter brought in as "the coal who will become the diamond" with Evolution? www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYXi8ISFzyQ
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 4, 2013 23:24:07 GMT -5
Cena has to turn heel. This is the perfect storyline for him to do it. People will get bored of Randy Orton eventually, because he neither inspires enough hatred, or enough support. Cena on the other hand is already hated, but also loved. He's already the Ronald McDonald of WWE. Perfect as a corporate mascot. He IS the face of the company and his character is stale. He needs a change. People will still buy his merchandise and kids will still love him, because like I've said before, he should ask his fans to still support him. Ideally WWE will have rivalries between fans. The DB fans vs the CeNation
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 4, 2013 23:32:11 GMT -5
Just watched it... Awesome stuff there by Trips and Cole.
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Post by Lancers on Sept 4, 2013 23:34:17 GMT -5
Sure, in real life he's great. But in kayfabe, with the boss being evil and corrupt morons who just want someone who does what they say even if it's immoral, Cena's not that guy. He can be a dick sometimes, but he'd never be down with Shield beatdowns and unjust firings. Unlike Orton who's willing to sell his soul and be the McMahon's coporate puppet, Cena would never do that unless it was some weird stipulation (like Cena joining Nexus) Yeah, that sounds right. They'll try to recruit John when he comes back for a little bit. He'll spurn their advances, and then Cena versus Orton for three months. It's really the only option they have to keep the story along.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2013 0:00:03 GMT -5
Cole: "...or because you're his son in law?" HHH: "Maybe that's it, either way the situation now is...."
WWECOOHHH really knows how VP's and execs think/act. "Sure I probably didn't get this job for the most legit reasons, but that doesn't matter because its about the future."
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Post by percymania on Sept 5, 2013 0:05:21 GMT -5
I love the commitment to this angle. Great stuff.
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